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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:35 AM
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Bank in American backwaters that has the answer to your prayers
The Times
By James Doran
Christianity in US offices is on the rise — and it’s good business



HEALING with the laying on of hands is not a service one expects at a bank. Cash dispensers, it must also be said, do not normally dole out divine blessings with tenners.

But both services are standard at the Riverview Community Bank in Otsego, Minnesota where Chuck Ripka, Duane Kropuenske and their mate Larry Ihle have set up America’s first evangelical bank.

“Now we call Duane the CEO,” says Ripka, who is vice-president and spiritual leader of the bank. “But you know, Jesus is the real CEO. He gives out the orders and we receive them,” Ripka beams. He beams a lot.

An oil painting next to Ihle’s desk depicts Ripka’s celestial view of the boardroom. Named The Senior Partner, it shows the figure of Jesus, wearing a white robe, standing in the corner office of what seems to be a Wall Street skyscraper, shaking hands with two smiling men in suits. Kropuenske and Ripka have been in local banking all their working lives. But 20 months ago they struck out on their own to found an institution based on Christian principles.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,175-1397960,00.html
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:39 AM
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1. embarrassing
It's so embarrassing when this stuff makes the international papers. Sigh.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:49 AM
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4. "The Lord Has told me...."

Ripka is more ambitious. “The Lord has told me that he has international plans for this bank. First we will have branches all over America, and in my lifetime we will be worldwide,” he says. “We are about three years ahead of our business plan,” Ripka beams once more.

“We will be showing a small profit at the end of this year,” Kropuenske adds in a more sombre tone.

The mission statement in Riverview’s annual report explains some of what makes the bank different from its competitors. “To enhance Christian and financial well- being for our stakeholders,” it states. The strategies section goes further: “Use the bank’s Christian principles to expand Christianity.”

While Riverview’s mission may differ from other less God-fearing banks, its modus operandi does not. The saving and lending products offered by Riverview — and the interest rates and charges — are much the same as any other bank.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,175-1397960,00.html

MAYBE they'll put in an offer on Riggs Bank - the one that got busted for laudering $$$$$$$$$$$s for General Pinochet and Saudi terrorists and being implicated in the Equatorial Guines coup plot to steal $500million from President Obiang....
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:44 AM
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2. "Jebus National Bank"

  • 10% auto-draft every Sunday!
  • Chick tract with every transaction!
  • Open an IRA and get a free oil-anointing!


    It is to vomit.
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    iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:47 AM
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    3. Do They Charge Interest on Loans?
    I mean, a bank based on Christian principles, right?
    Didn't Jesus rail againt the money changers? So when the Fed raises interest rates are these gents going to go pray and ask Jesus what they should do? (Jesus is the real CEO. He gives out the orders and we receive them.")

    Hey, what if some Jew or one of them homo-sexuals wants to work there? How are they going to do that there healing?
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    emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:52 AM
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    5. Banco Ambrosiano also based on Christian principles, like
    stealing over $400 million from the Vatica, murdering it's CEO Roberto "God's Banker" Calvi and then getting immunity from prosecution from Poppy for the cheif architect of the scam, Archbishop Marcinkus....
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    Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:57 AM
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    6. JESUS is CEO?
    wow. I bet that's news to Him, eh?
    I mean, all that ambition he displayed on his supposed visit to Earth.
    Ya. CEO .. my FOOT!

    Where does the moronosity end? EVER?
    JESUS! HELP US!
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    emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:59 AM
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    8. "Who would JESUS bank with?"
    ????
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    Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:58 AM
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    7. How contradictory can you get? Charlatans.
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    Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:09 AM
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    13. YeHaw. He's a CEO of the Money Changers alrighty
    Matthew 21:12 (New International Version)

    Jesus at the Temple
    12 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.


    Mark 11:15 (New International Version)

    15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,


    John 2:15 (New International Version)

    15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

    NIV - Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society


    If those people observed even one tittle or dot of the TEACHINGS, I would have no problem with them.

    They don't, of course. They cruise at their own speed .. dum . dum and dummer. And your worst nightmare!

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    bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:02 AM
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    9. Charging interest/usuary is not Christian at all.
    hmmm...
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    emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:07 AM
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    11. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's?
    ??
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    TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:04 AM
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    10. What I find saddest is that there are actually.....
    some overly pious, religious people who will take their money out of their bank and put it in this one cuz "Jesus is the CEO!" :-)
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    emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:08 AM
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    12. Sadder than the DU story the other week about new Kosher
    credit card from Bank Leumi that you can't use on the Sabbath/Holy Days etc?
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    OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:24 AM
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    14. didn't Jesus throw the money-changers out of the temple? . . .
    guess these guys haven't been reading their Bible . . . but then again, any relationship of the Christianoid Taliban to real Christians is . . . well . . . nonexistent . ..
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    Heartland Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:38 AM
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    15. Neo-Christians not evangelicals
    Start framing the issues on the new religious right in terms. Neo Christians

    Believe they:
    can judge others
    Have greater significance in the eyes of the God, Jesus or whatever.
    Deserve greater rewards
    And are exempt from the teachings of Christianity that pertain to worldly goods, money, property, taxes--etc.

    So please start using the term Neo-Christian more often.
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    rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 02:15 PM
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    22. I Like that
    never been comfortable lumping the evangelicals together like that, seeing as there are quite a few who know that Falwell, Bush & co are frauds.
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    reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:08 PM
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    16. At last America has a place in the world-international comedian.

    It's not hard to imagine the guffaws issueing from all the meetings in europe. They now see us no longer as the leader of the free world.

    We are now the WVI----the World's Village Idiot.
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    RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:24 PM
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    17. I can't read the whole story from the link.
    You have to register and it's not free.
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    Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:10 PM
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    24. Try this one:
    Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 09:31 PM by votesomemore
    http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5118222.html
    (cut)
    Ripka has gotten national attention for his ambitious plan to win souls while competing with other financial institutions for the almighty dollar. The bank has had unquestionable success, going from about $5 million in deposits 17 months ago to $75 million today; Ripka says it is the fastest start-up bank in the state.

    But some worry about the uneasy marriage of religion, money and even politics in the fast-growing area where Hennepin, Wright and Sherburne counties converge.
    (cut)

    ehehe . "Almighty Dollar".
    Hey! What is the object of worship here?

    Also:
    http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/business/industries/10271659.htm
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    RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:03 PM
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    27. Much thanks.
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    sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:42 PM
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    18. Does this mean they'll be giving cash for free?
    Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 12:43 PM by sleipnir
    Matthew 5:42- "Give to him who asks you, and don’t turn away him who desires to borrow from you."

    From the World English Bible, Jesus on the subject of begging and borrowing.

    So does this mean if I go in and ask for $50, they have to give it to me? Or if my credit is a wreck they can't turn me down for a $500,000 loan?

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    grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:48 PM
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    19. Jesus Saves...
    ...Here or in other words In God we trust. Everyone else pay cash!
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    VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:28 PM
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    20. An invisible man in the sky is CEO, sign me up! n/t
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    VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 02:00 PM
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    21. A dashboard Jesus with each new account of $500.00. n/t
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    Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 02:45 PM
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    23. Bobblehead dashboard Jesus with each new account of $1,000 n/t
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    sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:25 PM
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    25. does Jesus pay his workers good wages?
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    Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:50 PM
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    26. They will have to forgive all loans in the 50th year. Jubilee.
    Oh, these Christians.
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    tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:08 PM
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    28. The senior partner? Words fail me, totally.
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    Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:14 PM
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    29. These people are making money using Jesus as an ad tool.
    That sickens me.
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    NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:21 AM
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    30. Does Jesus get a salary?
    Most CEOs get paid.
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    VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:59 AM
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    31. Heard they have a special room where you can roll on the floor
    if you feel the need to.
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