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Sun Dec-12-04 05:13 PM
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AP Protesters urge Delay For Ohio Electors |
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:20 PM
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1. really a pity there were only 100 people |
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shows how much the MSM has a hold on people,
people think I am delusional when i try to bring it up. :dem:
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:27 PM
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1. We don't know how many people were there, we know what we read (unles you were there.). MSM always under reports attendance.
2. This is the AP. Miracle they covered it at all. I guess if they can't ignore it, the have to downplay it.
3. Unsolicited advice: Go over your facts and know what you know. Don't try to win people over, you'll get dizzy. Work with people on your side for now, until we get a broader consensus going -- and that is happening.
4. If you were delusional, you wouldn't be posting. You'd be writing on a mirror somewhere singing "Hail to the Chief".
This is a tug of war. Sometimes, we just have to blow out, inhale, and get a grip,
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:29 PM
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6. I was there. 40- 70 people. |
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:28 PM
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5. More like 40-70. Is was a HUGE disappointment for me. |
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And the only people getting any camera time were the real wackos. I don't know what organization the camera was with, but they picked the most illiterate ill-spoken person in the entire crowd to interview. It was shameful. The man had a toilet seat hung from around his neck.
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:33 PM
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7. Sorry you were disappointed and remember, this is messy. |
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We're not Stepford wives or something. Live with disinformation long enough, your poor brain protects itself by turning away or by flipping.
Okay, so they want to tar us as "wackos". This is the oldest trick in the playbook. Given the number of perfectly credible nonpartisan people who've signed on to this recount and challenge, it will not be easy for the MSM to keep discounting us. These are the last kicks of a drowning band of theives.
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:23 PM
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2. Why are the Republicans struggling so hard against a recount? |
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Seems like they'd welcome one if the election was fair as they claim.
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:28 PM
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4. And Notice The Freepers on this board of Late |
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I'd say they are shitting themselves.
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:37 PM
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some one in the MSM picks up this story..............is'nt there some big court deal in ohio monday?
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:44 PM
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9. Yes, at least one that we know about |
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Cliff Arnebeck will be filing an injunction to halt the process in OH.
That should get at least a little attention.
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:04 PM
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12. Everyone was exhausted even before election night, so don't |
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read the small turnout as a rejection.
I helped MoveOn launch their first book here in SF, and after the election I talked to one of their mentors. The guy was about to fall over.
(Another element of the perfect crime. Wear your opposition out, then present them with a whole new problem: theft.)
I don't want to sound like Pollyanna, but lots of people have been recouperating since 11/2 after giving the last ounce of energy they had.
So, that's the deal. If we keep it up, it will get better. We don't buckle to arbitrary or even traditional time limits because we have a good case: the Electors can't vote if the vote is still in progress.
This is the bone we've to worry. It's winter, holiday madness time, lots of elements against up. But, I submit we have some very sharp, clear minded people working this case. Let's keep up with them. Let's keep giving them our support and our hounding of the media and our noise and help carry them through the hard work they've cut out for them.
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Sun Dec-12-04 05:59 PM
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10. "The dissidents?" Voters are now dissidents? As for the 'witnesses" here |
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sorry if I doubt you. I would buy a low turnout but NEVER an OVERESTIMATE by AP.
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:08 PM
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13. I take it you are talking about me, see the photos I posted below |
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so you can stop being a "fool"
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:00 PM
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11. Here are my pictures from Columbus Ohio |
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Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 06:03 PM by seriousstan
http://www.image-dump.com/view.php?m=1&x=24415http://www.image-dump.com/view.php?m=1&x=24416http://www.image-dump.com/view.php?m=1&x=24417http://www.image-dump.com/view.php?m=1&x=24418As a "witness". I guess some folks have the tinfoil wrapped a little TOO tight. Take off your freper colored glasses and take a big bite of reality. After that tell me which state capital you were at today.......hmmmmm.
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:13 PM
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14. well, how was this a surprise to you, seriousstan? |
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It's CHRISTMAS, it's WINTER, our people just did two excellent years of work, and were rewarded by their leadership going into a bunker when the crooks took over the till.
This is politics, not pattycake.
And you can't discount the real human toll of these last two years, the timing of the election from our real lives. I've a disabled partner. No way could I go to Ohio or event to Sacto, no matter how much I wanted to be there.
That's just life. So, instead of pointing fingers, let's see what we CAN do to get this thing done.
I truly appreciate you being out there, and am extremely jealous that I could not be there.
But it ain't over.
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:15 PM
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15. It wasn't a total loss for me, I learned how to upload pictures |
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Sun Dec-12-04 06:22 PM
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16. : ) I learned how to stop screaming at the tv like a 12 yr old n/t |
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