Senate Votes to Block Overtime Changes

[RamboLiberal]

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/reuters20030910_199.html

A divided U.S. Senate defied a White House veto threat on Wednesday and voted to block proposed federal work rule changes that foes say could cost millions of Americans overtime pay.

The Republican-led chamber approved a Democratic amendment that would derail proposed expansion of overtime exemptions for white-collar workers under the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act.

Yet the final fate of the administration proposal remains unclear as it still faces a number of procedural and possible legal twists and turns.

[Wednesdays]

1. Wow...who switched over from the right side of the aisle?

Give 'em a medal! :)

[w13rd0]

3. I'm gonna wager a guess...

...and say the New England Republicans...

[otohara]

5. Ben Nightmare Campbell

voted yes! Miller of course voted with his republican party

[Creideiki]

9. Where do you find this stuff?

I've got Fitzgerald here in Illinois, and occasionally he'll buck the crowd.

[hedda_foil]

12. Fitzgerald voted with the pukes.

He almost never bucks the crowd anymore ... especially now that he's not running for re-election.

[Tuttle]

6. Was Cheney milling around?

just in case???

Tut-tut

[Cadfael]

10. Republican Yea Votes

Chafee RI (of course)
Snow ME
Specter PA
Murkowski AK
Stevens AK
edited because I missed Campbell CO

and then good old Jeffords (I) VT

[RamboLiberal]

14. Thank you Specter

Going to get ugly here in PA with the Repugs running a Wingnut to unseat Specter.

Boy I'm not going to know who to root for. I'm thinking if the Repugs defeat him in the primary if the Dems get a good candidate we could have a Dem Seat in the Senate from PA.

Too bad it's going to be awhile before we can go after Ricky Boy Santorum again.

[LynneSin]

22. We have a great candidate running in PA

http://www.charliecrystle.com/

Unless you want another DLC dem like Joe Hoeffel instead

[goobergunch]

35. Hoeffel opposed the WH OT rules in the House

http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2003&rollnumber=351

[MaineDem]

24. Argh...Collins voted with the Repugs

I thought we could depend on her for this one.

Way to go, Susie! :mad:

[Bandit]

32. For once I can be proud of my senators ~ It's extremely rare

:-)

[cherryperry]

2. Well, alright!!!!!

Thanks for some good news for once...I will take this personally because I have been driving my senators nuts with my e-mails and calls (LOL)!

:toast:

:kick:

[Colin Ex]

4. Hell yeah!

This may not be the whole deal, but this is slamming a pretty big door shut in Dubya's face.

W00t!

-C

[phillybri]

7. Woo hoo!!!

Damn right! Take that you fucking asshole!!!

[Mairead]

8. Look for it to re-appear after the elections

Can you imagine what a godsend that would be for the Dems? 'The GOP took away your right to overtime'. Instant Dem landslide.

Look for it to come back right after the elections, unless....

[baby_bear]

11. It hasn't gone away yet

There has to be a resolution with the House, which is slightly on Bush's side on this, plus Bush has threatened a veto if he gets a bill that denies the Dept of Labor from going ahead with the rules.

So we don't have to wait until after any election to hear more about this. The Repugs may well want to push it off until then, though,for the reason you mentioned.

s_m

[feminazi]

13. Both Murkowski and Stevens (Alaska) voted for it??

That surprises me. Anyone have a clue why?

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---54
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Breaux (D-LA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---45
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 1
Smith (R-OR)

[cally]

15. My guess

Alaska has many oil field workers that make lots of overtime. They are flown up and work extensive hours and then fly back home.

[Noordam]

18. Oil Workers OT is my guess too

:evilgrin:

[knowledgeispower]

28. Tourism as well

There is a fairly large tourism industry in Alaska (mainly from Cruise Ships), and a lot of the people who work in the industry make overtime pay.

Plus, you have to keep in mind that the Alaska Senators are not neocons. I don't particularly care for Stevens or Murkowski since they are Repubs, but at least they are of the old time conservative ideology rather than being completely sold out to private interests.

[Snellius]

29. Most of Alaska's state revenue comes from oil

A friend from Alaska told me the other day that Alaskans pay no state income tax because of oil revenues and that every man, woman and child gets a check from oil claims of up to $1400. And I thought Texas was controlled by oil.

[Bandit]

34. Some truth to that and some not so true

Alaska is a large oil producing state and yes we do not pay state income tax (yet). However the dividend check that all alaskans receive is derived from a Permanent Fund. (A bank account) Granted this Permanent Fund had it's origin from Oil Royalties it is now standing on it's own feet. The interest from this Fund (twenty-four billion dollars) and monies made from investments from this fund are what's used to sned out Dividend checks. The rational behind all of this came from it being Alaska resources and belonged to all Alaskans so should benefit all Alaskans. The Fund itself is never touched and in fact is added to every year so it just keeps getting larger and larger. If you stop to think about it, it is pretty good economic policy. Every October every single Alaskan gets a check which they immediatley put back into the state economy. October which is normally a month of decline in revenues in most states is a boon to Alaskan business and individuals alike. Instead of crying about how good Alaskans have it why don't you ask your own legislators why you don't have something similiar? In fact all of America should be demanding the same treatment as Alaska provides for it's citizens.

[dusty64]

20. Ick, that useless

fu*k miller strikes again. He can't retire soon enough for me.

[MisterP]

41. "yea" is a vote against overturning it

[Nottingham]

16. One of the major groups targeted by this Overtime is Nurses!

The One profession with the Major shortages and Nurse work extra shifts to cover the shortages! I can guarantee Nurses are not going to cover these shifts without overtime!

So this is ridiculous! :bounce:

[jamesinca]

21. The American Nurses Association is pissed

I received some stuff at work in my mail box from them about this. There is also an article that somebody put up in the breakroom that was put out by the ANA about this. It said call your senator. It very nicely avoided calling Bush the perpatrator.

[liberalnurse]

26. Yeap....and they will have hell to pay if this gets screwed

up in some Committee stuff.....which I'm not sure what all that may be....I just realized it ain't over yet.....

We will never, ever, ever work OT without the cash. They will have to pay agency nurses to do it and for more than what our OT is. Plus, the agency nurses are not staff and don't focus on the "unit" as a regular nurse does.... They are quite skilled, thats not the issue but maintaining the daily structure is not possible with a new "fill in the blank" nurse every shift...... Oh, I could go on....

[NewJerseyDem]

43. It could be in trouble

I'm not sure if the senate has passed the final appropriations bill yet but the house has and the senate probably will very soon if it hasn't done so already.

Then, the house and senate bills have to go into conference committee to create a comprimise. The house narrowly voted to uphold the overtime rules so there is a difference there between the house and senate bills. The republicans control the conference committee however Republicans Ted Stevens and Arlen Specter will probably both be on the conference committee because they are the chair of the full committee and Labor HHS subcommittee respectiviely and they are two republicans who opposed Bush's changes. Therefore, they may very well side with the democrats on the conference committee and demand that the overtime rules be overturned. But, the house will probably battle the senate very hard. So, it is difficult to see how that will turn out. If it the Harkin Amendment survives the conference and is passed then Bush will probably veto it and then who knows what will happen in Congress.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

17. Will Chimp issue his first veto?

On this issue? I say no. Political suicide.

[Noordam]

19. I wish he would be

This OT is a Bush vote killer. And Rove will it the idea that it should be done after 2004.

[liberalnurse]

27. I say he will .

He enjoys executions....... He did that without a blink as gove. in Texas....

[cherryperry]

38. ugh,

do you remember when he actually laughed and made fun of the woman he put to death (sorry, can't remember her name) - yes, he's a Christian - sure he is, that dirty rotten pathetic disgusting piece of crap who IS going to be defeated in 2004!!!

:argh:

[goobergunch]

37. Yes

and Congress will override. Remember...he has to veto an ENTIRE appropriations bill, not just this one provision.

[candy331]

23. Glad to hear

that overtime pay was defeated in the senate. My salary is set/year but with salary plus my overtime I get by. Since the house passed the bill do you think they will revisit this issue anytime soon?

[Aristus]

25. Yes! Our Grand Lady Senators from Washington voted 'yea'!

I love 'em!

[VolcanoJen]

30. Can't even begin to tell you how happy I am about this!!!!!!

And not just because the overtime rule change would have affected me directly and severely crimped my paycheck...

Hooray for working people! Finally, a victory for us under the deep shadow of Smirky.

HOORAY!!!!

[tom_paine]

31. Ah, the weakened forces of the dying Old Republic stir

Though it may not mean anything regarding the functionality of the Imperial Senate in the long-run (and perhaps a couple more convenitent small plane crashes), it does my heart good to see the few remaining signs that the Old Republic is not dead.

But the Bushevik strategy has been and continues to be the "floodgate" approach, or the Trotskyite notion of "perpetual revolution".

[lifelong_Dem]

33. Someone tell the lefty-left

Looks like there's a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans after all.

[goobergunch]

36. Excellent!

Although we haven't won yet, this keeps it alive.

:-)

[VolcanoJen]

39. Kicking to make sure everyone hears the good news!

:dem:

[Nottingham]

40. Alleluia!

:bounce:

[blockhead]

42. trade

maybe we could work out a trade, we'll take Chaffee and Snow , and they can have Miller?