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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:52 PM
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U.S.: Show of Cuban Military a Diversion
WASHINGTON -- Large-scale exercises by the Cuban military are an attempt by Fidel Castro's government to distract people from the hardships of their lives, the State Department said Monday.

Defense Minister Raul Castro said last week the exercises are designed to deter the United States from attacking the island.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the United States repeatedly has urged Cuba to begin a peaceful transition to democracy.

"We think that's what the Cuban people deserve, and we think they deserve it in a peaceful fashion," Boucher said.
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President Fidel Castro's younger brother said the United States should observe the exercises closely "so it doesn't make the same mistakes it made in Vietnam and is now making in Iraq."

The maneuvers also are aimed at evaluating how prepared Cuban society is to face possible U.S. military action against Cuba, he said.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-cuba,0,7378205.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:54 PM
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1. It's so funny when this country talks about 'diversions'
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 07:55 PM by Union Thug
When our news is absolutely saturated with them.

i think that the most accurate comment is the final one you cited..."possible US military action against Cuba.."
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:55 PM
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2. Guess who's being distracted?
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 08:03 PM by Mika
Before..


Before the 1959 Cuban revolution

  • 75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.
  • More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.
  • 85% had no inside running water.
  • 91% had no electricity.
  • There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.
  • More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.
  • Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.
  • The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.
  • 45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.
  • 25% of the labor force was chronically unemployed.
  • 1 million people were illiterate ( in a population of about 5.5 million).
  • 27% of urban children, not to speak of 61% of rural children, were not attending school.
  • Racial discrimination was widespread.
  • The public school system had deteriorated badly.
  • Corruption was endemic; anyone could be bought, from a Supreme Court judge to a cop.
  • Police brutality and torture were common.




    After the 1959 revolution..



    Learn from Cuba
    http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/learn.htm
    “It is in some sense almost an anti-model,” according to Eric Swanson, the programme manager for the Bank’s Development Data Group, which compiled the WDI, a tome of almost 400 pages covering scores of economic, social, and environmental indicators.

    Indeed, Cuba is living proof in many ways that the Bank’s dictum that economic growth is a pre-condition for improving the lives of the poor is over-stated, if not, downright wrong.

    -

    It has reduced its infant mortality rate from 11 per 1,000 births in 1990 to seven in 1999, which places it firmly in the ranks of the western industrialised nations. It now stands at six, according to Jo Ritzen, the Bank’s Vice President for Development Policy, who visited Cuba privately several months ago to see for himself.

    By comparison, the infant mortality rate for Argentina stood at 18 in 1999;

    Chile’s was down to ten; and Costa Rica, at 12. For the entire Latin American and Caribbean region as a whole, the average was 30 in 1999.

    Similarly, the mortality rate for children under the age of five in Cuba has fallen from 13 to eight per thousand over the decade. That figure is 50% lower than the rate in Chile, the Latin American country closest to Cuba’s achievement. For the region as a whole, the average was 38 in 1999.

    “Six for every 1,000 in infant mortality - the same level as Spain - is just unbelievable,” according to Ritzen, a former education minister in the Netherlands. “You observe it, and so you see that Cuba has done exceedingly well in the human development area.”

    Indeed, in Ritzen’s own field, the figures tell much the same story. Net primary enrolment for both girls and boys reached 100% in 1997, up from 92% in 1990. That was as high as most developed nations - higher even than the US rate and well above 80-90% rates achieved by the most advanced Latin American countries.

    “Even in education performance, Cuba’s is very much in tune with the developed world, and much higher than schools in, say, Argentina, Brazil, or Chile.”

    It is no wonder, in some ways. Public spending on education in Cuba amounts to about 6.7% of gross national income, twice the proportion in other Latin American and Caribbean countries and even Singapore.

    There were 12 primary school pupils for every Cuban teacher in 1997, a ratio that ranked with Sweden, rather than any other developing country. The Latin American and East Asian average was twice as high at 25 to one.

    The average youth (age 15-24) illiteracy rate in Latin America and the Caribbean stands at 7%. In Cuba, the rate is zero. In Latin America, where the average is 7%, only Uruguay approaches that achievement, with one percent youth illiteracy.

    “Cuba managed to reduce illiteracy from 40% to zero within ten years,” said Ritzen. “If Cuba shows that it is possible, it shifts the burden of proof to those who say it’s not possible.”

    Similarly, Cuba devoted 9.1% of its gross domestic product (GDP) during the 1990s to health care, roughly equivalent to Canada’s rate. Its ratio of 5.3 doctors per 1,000 people was the highest in the world.

    The question that these statistics pose, of course, is whether the Cuban experience can be replicated. The answer given here is probably not.

    “What does it, is the incredible dedication,” according to Wayne Smith, who was head of the US Interests Section in Havana in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has travelled to the island many times since.




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    slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:55 PM
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    3. Ahhhh...the irony....
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    Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:57 PM
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    4. I WISH THEY DID
    I wish they did...I know the Cuban defense system from the peasants themselves (i've talked to them)...they are WELL prepared for an invasion, and have been for decades...and they are not Iraq...they are a very nationalistic, rebellious people.

    I WISH the United States would try to invade Cuba...would be cool to see Yankee blood run down Havana streets...
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    Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:59 PM
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    5. I don't
    :mad:

    I have friends there.

    I don't want our government murdering them.


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    Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:16 PM
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    10. It's an old, old story, isn't it, Mika?
    The U.S. HAS been out to get them since the 1800's. It's just impossible for some of the psychopaths who worm their way into our government to allow this small island to go its own way.

    Those people have no moral perspective whatsoever. They are thieves on a grand scale. Gotta have it, gotta own it, doesn't matter who says "can't."

    Written, curiously, on Christmas Eve, 1897, by John C. Breckenridge, U.S. Undersecretary of War, this magical love note to Cuba:

    We must impose a harsh blockade so that hunger and its constant companion, disease, undermine the peaceful population and decimate the Cuban army.


    http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/bmemo.htm
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    slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:04 PM
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    6. I think you're the only one. eom
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    makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:04 PM
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    7. Heh
    Glad it didn't escape you. A "diversion from hardships" you say? Hold on ... I've gotta go update the alert to orange!
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    No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:06 PM
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    8. The MSM diversion from all Lacie, all the time... LOL
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    Liberal Grant WI Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:12 PM
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    9. Its kinda scary..
    Cuba is only a few miles away..they could probably target any city in the states with pretty darn good precision...now granted it probably won't happen...but the US doesn't need to get into another conflict especially with such a close neighbor..and why would bush go there anyways??? is there oil in Cuba?
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    makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:19 PM
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    11. Oh yeah!
    Those Cuban nukes can reach Chicago in under 45 minutes!

    Ah, my bad, that was taken care of 40 years ago.
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    Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:27 PM
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    12. Oh, they're a power-mad bunch, aren't they?
    You can just imagine them, dancing, drinking rum, smoking cigars, and scheming their terrifying schemes to come up here and grab our plasma tvs! Bush is trying to protect us by threatening them steadily since January, 2001! Why he wouldn't even lower himself to simply talk to the Cubans. Whatta man! Whatta sense of true importance! He's too big to be friendly!

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    makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:57 PM
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    15. It's the cigars
    Along with sexual starvation, limited access to good Cuban cigars must drive the wingnuts crazy.

    Come to think of it, Clinton really did step on some painful right-wing bunions with his indiscretion. :)
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    IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:33 PM
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    13. And who is responsible for the "hardships of their lives"?
    Large-scale exercises by the Cuban military are an attempt by Fidel Castro's government to distract people from the hardships of their lives, the State Department said Monday.

    And who is responsible for the "hardships of their lives"? Take one guess... Uncle Sam!
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    peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:35 PM
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    14. So here we are - over forty years of keeping an agreement, then the
    Bush cabal enters the picture. The writing is on the wall that the Bush cabal plans to move into Cuba. The 40+ year agreement followed the Cuban Missile Crisis - the story of the agreement that has been going around all these years is that Kruschev agreed not to proceed with the missile program in Cuba and Kennedy agreed to not attempt to take Castro out or invade Cuba (there was a Turkey military base concession also - the only concession that got press). Though clandestine CIA and CIA wannabe attempts were made on his life, Castro survived, so the agreement survived. Now the cabal is going to change things and probably would have changed things by now if there were manpower resources, with or without the death of Castro.

    There is oil off the shore of Cuba and Cuba is the perfect island for drug swapping. The CIA and mafia would like to take it over again. If taken over, it will become the money laundering island deluxe. They will probably set up a little refuge for corporate criminals with extradition protection. It's all too predictable.

    Links? DU archives, google, books.

    Why wouldn't a country try to defend itself?

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