Bush 'open for suggestions' on Iraq resolution

[Nambe]

WASHINGTON, Sept 10 (Reuters)

U.S. President George W. Bush called on the United Nations on Wednesday to avoid "past bickering" over Iraq and said he was "open for suggestions" from France, Germany and Russia on a postwar resolution. ---

"I don't think they're opposed to (the) resolution. ... They may want to try to fine-tune a resolution, and listen, we're open for suggestions," Bush said.

He said Secretary of State Colin Powell would be "going around the world" asking countries to make "serious contributions" to the peacekeeping and reconstruction effort.

"I once again make that plea," Bush said. "We expect and hope that our friends contribute to the reconstruction of Iraq. It is in your interest that you do so." ---

Ride Don’t Drive It’s Global Cool

[gratuitous]

1. Quite the multi-lateralist all of a sudden, ain't he?

"Please, please, please help me clean up this huge mess I made. C'mon guys, ya just gotta help. Mom'll be home pretty soon and I'm really gonna get it!"

[stoystown]

2. Here's a suggestion...

Quit, you loser, before you make the world an even more dangerous place.

I think Bush's resignation on the anniversary of the terroist attack he could have stopped would be very appropriate.

[JPace]

3. Oh look....

Oh look Sally.
Oh look Jane,
Oh look Spot
See george...
See george beg
Oh beg george, beg, beg, beg!

[ixion]

4. friends? You mean, 'Old Europe'?

Friends, who have been abused and mocked by you and your arrogant administration?

I swear, this guy is the lowest form of life ever to threaten the planet.

[Barrett808]

5. "He said it would be 'absurd' to roll back his tax cuts"

Umm, yeah. I'll give ya absurd...

[pippin]

7. Oner Word

QUIT!

. . .and take your team of mutant monsters with you.

[Beetwasher]

6. Now he's willing to listen?

What a dick and liar.

[diplomats]

8. France, Germany, et al

should tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine.

[john moore]

11. Help!!

I am an Independent! Please tell me why you hate bush so much? I keep hearing how much he has lied to me! When did he lie about iraq? Please understand I am not a republican. In fact the last time I voted, I voted for ross perot. Because I didn't like Clinton or Bush! I am trying to understand what the hatred for this man is. Clinton did lie about his affair! I don't hate the man, or think he doesn't love this country. But I don't hate bush either! I also think he loves this this country. I admire that he sticks behind what he says even if they may be wrong! But I don't know if there wrong because bi-partisonship quashes every idea he has! I am a family man who worries about protecting them. 9-11 affected me alot! It scared me! Bush said it would take a long time, but we would find who did those unspeakable acts. Well its been almost two years! That isn't along time. As long as he is still looking, I think he was truthful. Am I wrong for feeling this way. Please understand I respect your feeling about him. So I would like you to answer questions! Tell me why to turn my back on him! Tell me why we didn't need to invade Iraq! Tell your idea on how to root out terrorism! I am listening!

[Demobrat]

12. I can't speak for anybody else, but I hate him for many reasons.

The main one being that he has shamelessly exploited 9/11 for his own purposes. I know that there was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam and here's why: If there was they would be shouting it from the rooftops. As it is, they mention 9/11 and Saddam in the same sentence, over and over, but have never really come out and said flat out that there was a connection. Don't you think that if there was, even a tenuous connection, they would say so? But there isn't. Bush wanted Saddam and he used 9/11 to go after him. Bush lied. Soldiers died. And continue to die for the enrichment of Bush and his minions. That's why I hate him. Or at least the main reason. There are many others, but I have to go do some work now!

[liberalmuse]

14. I wish I lived on your planet...

What a lovely place it must be. It must be nice, enjoying all the perks of a representative democracy, but not bothering to find out what your leaders have been up to, but instead, trusting the powers that be to give you unbiased information. Honestly, I'm not trying to be rude, but if you really want to know why so many people despise Bush, you've got a lot of reading and thinking to do. A few posts on a message board aren't going to do the Bush atrocities adequate justice. I really don't know what to say to someone who's had their head in their ass for so long. Pull it out and start thinking for yourself instead of buying all the B.S. from the corporate, profit-first news media? There is no excuse for someone in the 'information age' being this grossly uninformed about what is going on with their government. Very, very sad.

[john moore]

25. That hurt!

You see most americans are just like I am. We have questions because we don't have the time or energy to read everything going on in our government! But instead of advice,you say my head is up my ass because I am not informed! Maybe thats why the elections of 2002 didn't go the way of the left. Give me some sound advice, don't attack me! Are you too arrogant to have someone question your stance? The other responses I got were good and well informed. I agree with some points, disagree with others. When I voted for Perot, Clinton was running against Bush, just the older one. Now I am pissed because you basically called me stupid! If this is the way of the democrat then why should I come aboard. If I question something I will be told to get my head out of my ass. I now see why some people say the democrats are whining! Thanks to those who gave me some very informed responses. But could you please get a grip on the ones who are making your party look bad. They don't want to argue their case like you do, they just want to point the finger and blame someone. Damn I am mad!!!! Why should a family man like me, not take offense to this abuse??? Please defend this person!!!

[Maeve]

27. You haven't voted in 11 years and now you have questions?

You appear to believe lying about one's personal life and lying about threats to the security of the nation and the world are equal. Gee, in one case, Hillary was cheated on and in the other we have gone into a second war without finishing the first one (remember Afganistan? It was in all the papers), uncounted thouseands of Iraqis have died, hundreds of American soldiers have died, many more wounded...

If you want to start catching up on the world around you, read a newspaper once in a while or get Newsweek or even Time at least once a month. Don't try to get other folks to spoon-feed you the world; that's what FauxNews does.

[karlschneider]

29. Well, maybe if you would actually EXPEND a little "time and energy" to

find out just what the fuck is going on, you wouldn't be so goddamned ignorant. Gee, what a concept!
:grr:

[Demobrat]

33. I think he's trying.

Why be so mean to somebody who came here seeking info?

[karlschneider]

36. I'll buy some of that optimism from you...

:eyes:

[calimary]

38. Gentle reader, John Moore, it's useful that you pose these questions.

You correctly note the anger here. Friend, it's but a microcosm of the tidal waves of anger that have been rising, not just here on DU, but all over the country.

I understand that you've been busy and you're probably doing work and family duties (as so many of us, here, at least those of us lucky enough still to have jobs) are doing. Therefore, you may not have given much time or thought to doing the kind of EXTENSIVE reading - no, make that RESEARCH - into this and other online forums, other sources of information, other reportage in other newspapers and news services both here and abroad. I don't have much extra time during my average day, either, but I am troubled enough about the way our country has been driven into a ditch since December, 2000, to start reading and researching. Finding out for myself. Because if you (or ANYBODY!) allowed yourself to be informed by a cursory look at the nightly news or the quick hits off local radio, or maybe Fox News (which is a master of bias - please believe me, I used to be a reporter, back in the old days when news wasn't expected to be just another profit center and my colleagues bent over backwards to be objective), you WILL NOT, REPEAT, WILL NOT get the whole story.

Just one tiny example - when Miguel Estrada threw in the towel. The coverage was all over the Democrats for supposedly playing the race card and this guy was a Honduran immigrant who pulled himself up by his bootstraps... perhaps seven or eight Republicans in the Senate were cited, or interviewed, giving soundbites of outrage. There was ONE soundbite from Ted Kennedy for the Dems. There was one VERY brief mention of Estrada's not EVER coming clean while being questioned by the Senate Judiciary committee about his record (poor and suspect enough, from what anybody could find out about it) as a jurist and his opinions and how they'd inform his future rulings. AND, while all this blather carried on about how terrible it is that this Hispanic who would have gained a hugely prominent position was defeated - Estrada also WAS OPPOSED BY VIRTUALLY EVERY HISPANIC GROUP YOU COULD FIND. FUNNY ENOUGH, NOWHERE - REPEAT - NOWHERE WAS THAT MENTIONED.

That's just a very small sampling. But ALL of the coverage of Bush and co has been like that. NOTHING said to fully or fairly represent the opposing view. So if this is what you're getting and on which you base your conclusions, I fear you DO have a responsibility as a citizen and voter to know more about the facts. Heaven knows, you're gonna be bombarded (as are all of us) with 30-second campaign slogans and commercials and buzz-phrases and nice, stirring, warming patriotic music that won't tell you a single thing about what's really going on.

Please understand, also, that the reason "why the elections of 2002 didn't go the way of the left" is because THERE WAS NO LEFT. Except perhaps Mary Landrieu, running for reelection to the Senate. Everyone else thought, because of the perceived climate of the country - at the time very pro-Bush and very much filled with war-fever - that it was political suicide to do anything but go along, and tell the voters how much you went along, and how you basically gave Bush everything he wanted and you were not getting in his face and you were behaving yourself and doing what the Republican majority told you to do. There was NO REASON offered to any of us in "The Silenced Majority" to vote for many Dems because they'd caved. They'd caved to Bush on the war, the tax cuts, the Patriot Act, EVERYTHING. Congresspeople going home for town hall meetings were hearing two messages - that people (like us, here) were angry they weren't being heard, AND that if they didn't go along with the Bushies, they were viewed as unpatriotic, anti-American, Saddam-lovers, appeasers, friends of "cheese-eating surrender monkeys," and Neville Chamberlains. And they were afraid. They were afraid to do what they were hearing from their constituents - which was to stand up to Bush.

No one showed any spine. That's why they lost. AND, of those who did show some spine, like Max Cleland, those same slick 30-second campaign commercials and buzz-phrases HAD THE NERVE to question his patriotism because he was against the war, and to promote the pathetic Saxby Chambliss in his stead. Now, let's recall, Max Cleland was at one time the head of the VA, having lost three limbs (he has one arm left) during combat in Vietnam. Saxby Chambliss was just another in a continuing series of shameful, simpering, opportunistic "Chickenhawks" - those who drool for war as long as somebody else goes to fight it, while they themselves never bothered to serve their country, wear their country's uniform, or see combat, when THEY had the chance. And because they impugned the patriotism of someone like Max Cleland, he lost. The media was asleep at the wheel and never bothered to question or shed light on the shit that was thrown at Cleland in the name of promoting mindless knee-jerk Republican conservative greed-induced war-mongering.

And yes, the anger you sense here is because of cases like this. Dear friend, this incident is but a grain of sand on an entire beach-covered coastline of incidents that have been perpetrated on this country and its people by these awful, awful, awful men, and some women, if you count the reprehensible CONdoleezza Rice, Christie Todd Whitman and Gale Norton.

I'd say it's not that you're stupid. Not at all. You're probably just busy and fairly unpreoccupied with national politics as some of us political junkies here are. I, for one, am glad to see people like you coming here, because at least here, you'll read other views, you'll get access to other links of commentaries, reportage, op/ed pieces, and other perspectives than the narrow ones offered by CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and the rest.

I would also suggest, since you're here online, that you visit the Military Families Speak Out website. I think it's www.militaryfamiliesspeakout.com - and read some of the letters. THESE people, unlike us partisans here at DU and elsewhere, have no axes to grind, other than to hope like hell their loved ones now marooned in a hopeless quagmire (and make no mistake - as one who's old enough to remember Vietnam, I can tell you THIS, TOO, is in EVERY SENSE of the word a QUAGMIRE) will come home under their own power, and not in a body bag. Read some of THEIR letters and opinions. Then decide. They'll tell you from the familial front lines, what the truth is, and how Bush and his "cakewalk cabal" have lied to them, their sons, their husbands, their daughters, their nephews, and everyone they know who's stuck over there fighting a war that was built on a MOUNTAIN of lies, deceptions, misrepresentations, forged and faulty evidence, exaggerations, and an awful lot of fishy-smelling hot air. As a family man, would you want to sacrifice your child to an altar like this? As a family woman, I WILL NOT sacrifice my children to it. Rather, I took my kids to the peace rallies with me, so they, too, could watch, listen, learn, and participate.

I also speak, dear friend and questioner, as one who stood out there under various protest signs, on street corners and in shopping malls, trying to show my opposition to the war, back last year and well into this past February when it wasn't the "popular" thing to do. I was one of those villified, scorned, cursed, name-called, flipped-off, laughed at, insulted, and more. Now, unfortunately, folks like me who opposed the war after finding out enough about it to be sickened by it - just look like a bunch of Jeane Dixons and Edgar Cayces and other latter-day prophets.

We were ALL lied to. Repeatedly. By those who claimed they weren't liars and had credibility and were bringing "adults" and "honor and integrity back to the White House." We were lied to from the first moment they decided to fight the counting of the votes in November, 2000. We were lied to, over and over and over. What WEREN'T we lied to - about? If you want to consider being lied to, have you, for example, seen or read ANY of the coverage about how the toxins in the air over New York City right after 9-11 were lied about, downplayed, and covered up - AT THE DIRECTION OF THE WHITE HOUSE, by an environmental governing panel chaired by a guy who, conveniently enough, used to be a lawyer for the asbestos industry? The World Trade Center towers were among the last buildings to be built with asbestos, before the rules and building and safety codes changed. Do you now wonder why Mayor Michael Bloomberg has delicately requested that Dick Cheney stay away from the 9-11 remembrances tomorrow? It's not just for "security" reasons or because it might inconvenience the families of the 9-11 victims. More like because it might absolutely outrage and sicken those families. If I were one of them, Cheney is the last person on earth I'd welcome to such events.

Sorry to be so long-winded, John Moore. Even so, the length of this post doesn't even begin to catalogue ALL the lies, deceptions, misrepresentations, and other crap that's been fed to us from the get-go of this Godforsaken band of thieves. It doesn't even begin to cover them all. There are too many. I'd still be here typing away at my keyboard in response to you five or six days from now, if I had to list and describe them all. Maybe longer. It's FAR deeper, more serious, more heinous and more hideous, than mere lies about cheating on your wife with some comely young intern. Far worse. BEYOND far worse.

Yes, you bet we point the finger of blame. You bet we're mad. And, if you'll scan around you, you may start noticing a whiff in the wind - that a few more people here and there are also starting to feel as though they've been had. That we were right, out on our protest lines. That those who warned of the way Bush and his friends did business, and how their actions would speak much louder than their words of "compassionate conservatism" and "leaving no child behind" and "being a uniter, not a divider," and wanting to protect America "from having to fight terrorists inside our own borders" and against an enemy who "can launch a strike against us within 45 minutes" were correct. Yes, we're angry. We have a right to be. The more you read, and the more you consider our views (and obviously, judging from what you've posted so far, you haven't had all that much exposure to views like ours), and start looking at the facts, the more you may find you're starting to get angry, too.

And not just at a few hotheads here on DU who have run out of the patience and motivation to mince words.

[trapper914]

40. What he said.

What a way with words.

[lumpy]

39. Since you are on the internet, John

take time to investigate the history of the events leading up to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plenty of sites to go to so you can make up your mind whether the present administration has done the right thing. Keeping up on world events is important to you because it ultimately affects YOUR life. Sorry you feel insulted, don't know how old you are, but it is time to start making the gathering of information your top priority. You have a mind , start using it for your own sake.

[gratuitous]

15. You pose many questions

Here's just one answer: He lied about the threat that Iraq posed to our nation's security. There was never any debate about Saddam being a bad, bad man. There was never any debate about whether at one time or another he may have had terrible weapons of destruction, and that he had used them.

But for the period from the end of Gulf War I to the time in September 2002 when Bush began thumping the tub for Gulf War II (the sequel), Bush and his administration fostered the lie that Saddam's regime posed an imminent threat to the U.S. Carefully sifting intelligence reports that they presented to the public, the Bushistas (and here I'm referring to Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Ari Fleischer and others too numerous to mention) painted a picture of a nation that was about to launch an attack on the U.S. and that if it wasn't stopped, we'd be in a horrible fix.

Well, Saddam wasn't a threat to the U.S. He didn't have the weapons the Bushistas claimed. In fact, as the UN weapons inspection team under Hans Blix was ably demonstrating, it was hard to find anything in Saddam's arsenal that would have reached beyond his borders. Bush himself promised during the scripted press conference that he would without qualification seek a second UN Security Council vote before initiating hostilities. When it became apparent that the vote would be vetoed by the French or the Russians, if not lost outright, Bush went ahead with his invasion anyway.

And what has been the upshot? Saddam is neither captured nor killed. Over 300 American soldiers and countless thousands of Iraqis are dead. The stability of the region, an iffy thing at the best of times, is even worse now, as evidenced by the mounting violence against the U.S. presence in Iraq, as well as renewed violence in Israel and Palestine. We are certainly not safer than we were before, which was the ostensible reason for the invasion, and may even be in greater danger from people who formerly didn't have any particular reason to hate or attack the U.S.

Naturally, all of these eventualities were voiced as concerns before the beginning of hostilities, but those of us who saw those outcomes were given the Cassandra treatment, and dismissed as merely a "focus group" of Nervous Nellies. Now that we're up to our hips in this quagmire, Mr. Bush has the nerve to go hat in hand to the other nations of the world for help, nations that he and his mouthpieces denigrated for their reluctance to kill Iraq, fearing the consequences that have indeed come to pass.

Why would anyone hate Bush? Because in spite of all the warnings, in spite of all the bad things that were predicted and that have come to pass, in spite of all the dead bodies created, the Bush administration admits no error, concedes no miscalculation, and indeed presses gamely ahead, using the nation's sons and daughters as fodder to conclude its demented plan for unilateral domination. Now that they're asking for help, their first instinct was to say to our putative allies that acceptance of their assistance was conditioned on their submitting to our hegemony. France and Germany rightfully told Mr. Bush to stick it.

Check around DU and read some of the other threads. You should be able to glean more answers to your questions there, and welcome to the Boards.

[Cocoa]

16. I can't help you

a better question is why you DON'T hate him.

edit: regarding "loving his country" I find that almost impossible to believe. I think he hates almost all of us, including you, mostly because we have the power to vote him out. He and all his crew absolutely despise democracy.

[MaineDem]

17. 9-11 and Iraq

No connection...no attack.

Back in January, both Bush and Tony Blair said there was no connection between the attacks on 9/11 and Iraq. Now it's become the ONLY reason we're there.

There are many reasons to detest George W Bush and his administration; this is just one. I suggest you keep reading here at DU. You'll learn a thing or two.

And the choice wasn't between Bush and Clinton, you know.

[StandWatie]

23. oh, bullshit

W is the biggest opportunist out there. Everyone knows it, he doesn't "stick with his guns" he does what Karl Rove tells him to do. Just like with Iraq, he's stuck with this growing unpopular war so he completely flip flops and starts begging Europe for a bluewash of his mess. He said God told him to go make peace in Israel, Karl Rove told him later on it wasn't something to mess with once Labor Day came and it was officially campaign 2004, if you read the Israeli press this was open knowledge so what "God" told him what to do can go out the window instantly if it messes with his constiuancy.


As far as the "War on Some Terrorists", I could win that instantly. I'd pull all our troops back somewhere in our own hemisphere, tell Israel they are on their own, issue an apology and that would be that.

I don't even know where to start with Iraq but if you still believe somehow Iraq was threatening us you have been completely and utterly brainwashed.

[Lorien]

24. Read Al Franken's newest

for starters. It's all there; how Bush* used "operation ignore" tro deal with terrorism prior to 9/11, how he ignored the mountains of evidence about a massive attack on US soil, and chose to push his tax cut for the rich and spend 41% of his time in office relaxing at various getaway spots instead. Yeah, "operation ignore' is Franken's term for team Bushco's terrorism policy, but it does sum up exactly what happened. The whole book outlines numerous reasons-well documented, unlike right wing rants-to hate and distrust Bush*. You'll laugh and cry the whole way through!

Clinton, BTW, spent more time stopping terrorist attacks than any other president. The repugs during his administration even COMPLAINED that Clinton was unnaturally obsessed with bin Laden, and that he spent too much money on counter terrorism activities (such as protecting Soviet era nukes from being obtaimed by terrorist groups-protections Bush jr, put a stop to as soon as he took office). It was the repugs who stopped Clinton from assasinating Osama; they considered the Presidents penis a far greater threat to Americans.

[Zenaholic]

30. Bush II - The Empire Strikes Back

Bush & Co. has hurt our country in ways the terra-ists could only dream of. For one they have tarnished our reputation. They took us into a UNJUST war, disregarding the UN, and even calling them irrelevant. Then after declaring, "mission accomplished" (even though no WMD were found), had to beg the UN (the same one they called irrelevant) for help. They have turned our country into a laughing stock!!! When Bill Clinton lied about Monica, no body was hurt. The world laughed at us but it was okay because we were laughing too. We're not laughing now because people are getting killed. For no reason but to get a few contracts to closely tied companies like Haliburton. And in turn making $millions.

If you are concerened about the furture for your children take a look at BushCo.'s environmental record. Nothing is more important to our furture than our planet: http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/default.asp

The reason you don't know about Bush's lies is because the mainstream media doesn't talk about it. Take a look at a comapny called Clear Channel to find out one reason why.

The current misAdministration is using the terrorist attacks as fuel to feed their fear machine. If people are afraid then they can get away with just about anything in the name of "homeland defense". So it serves them well to keep the general public afraid.

How many press conferences has dubya had? 8 or 9 in 2 and half years of being pResident? Why, when other past president have had anywhere bewteen 30-100 by this time in their presidency? What is he trying to avoid?


Here's a few more "list of accomplishments":

· Attacked and took over two countries.
· Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
· Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
· Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
· Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
· First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
· First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
· First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
· After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
· Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.
· In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
· Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.
· Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
· Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
· Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
· Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history.
· Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
· Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
· Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
· Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)
· Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
· My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.
· Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
· First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
· Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
· First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
· Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
· Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.
· First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.
· First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.
· Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
· Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
· Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
· Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
· First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).
· All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
· My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
· Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
· First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
· First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
· First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
· Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
· With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
· Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
· First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
· Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
· Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
· Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
· Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
· In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
· Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
· In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
· Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References:
· At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
· AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.
· Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
· All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
· All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
· All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
· Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.
· For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)


Hope this helps in your voting decision! Make sure you tell eveybody you know!

[Buns_of_Fire]

34. My most humble suggestion

(and I'd give the same advice to anyone):

• Hang around LBN for a while. There are links to the articles (the LBN rules require it). Read the article, then read the comments.
• Don't do much responding (if any) until you've hung around LBN for a while, to get a feel for the place. I think most positions are pretty self-evident.
• Stop by your favorite store and pick up some asbestos underwear. There are times you'll need it.
• Stop by the Lounge for a while. Things are pretty laid-back over there (but it can turn X-rated in a heartbeat, and you'd better like yaks).

Welcome. :hi:

[NickB79]

41. Where did he lie?

Lets see:

Saddam and Al-Queda worked together (false)

Tax cuts will help the economy (false)

Invading Iraq will make the Middle East, and the US, safer (false)

And my personal favorite: Iraq has chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, so we must invade them. They have the ability to attack us within 45 minutes, they imported uranium from Niger, they rebuilt their nuclear weapons program, they had drone planes that could spray bio/chem weapons, etc. All were LIES!!!! If you don't believe me, try to find a single verified case of WMD having been discovered so far. You'll find that every one, with no exceptions, has been debunked.

These lies sent our economy into the toilet and sent hundreds of men and women in Iraq to their deaths. Clinton's lies never resulted in the deaths of good, young men and women.

We didnt need to invade Iraq because it had NO connection with the terrorism that came to the US on 9/11! To this day, no one has yet found a link between Saddam and Al Queda! My idea of rooting out terrorism would be to, at the very least, invade countries that actually harbor Al-Queda terrorists (I supported the invasion of Afghanistan for this reason). Many intelligence agencies are now saying there was no Al-Queda presence in Iraq until AFTER we invaded!

And to him sticking to what he says, there was a great episode of the Daily Show on Comedy Central a few months ago, where State-of-the-Union speech President Bush "debated" Presidential Candidate Debate Governer Bush. They played segments of the SOTU and Debate speeches side by side to highlight the differences. Basically, he did an about-face in the SOTU address on most of the issues he talked about during the debates. It was hilarous and really hit the point home as well.

[notadmblnd]

42. Yes John its a lot of work keeping up with what the BFEE has done and

what they are trying to accomplish. In a nutshell their agenda is to eliminate the middle class and rule the world via corporate entities.

There is sooooooo much evil oozing from this family it's frightening, starting way back when grandaddy Prescott helped finance Hitler's war on Europe to Poppys involvement in Iran Contra to the little chimperor's drug use and avoidance of his responsibilities during Vietnam.

The BFEE (bush family evil empire) promotes war for profit. They cause the trouble the American people pay for it. They and their friends Cheny, Rumsfield, Perle, Wolfowitz, and a cast of many others and their companies get rich off our blood. We sacrifice all,lives, jobs homes, they sacrifice nothing. This is why I hate him.

[diplomats]

9. I don't know about you but I'm experiencing schadenfreude

watching Bush having to swallow his disdain for "Old Europe" and ask for their help. Karma's a b****.

[TNOE]

10. NOW he's open for suggestions?????

Here's a suggestion - You're fired - get the hell out of our White House you supid fucking moron!!!!!! Looks like the people in this country are going to give him a HUGE suggestion pretty soon - nothing like asking for $87 Billion to wake people up!

[peterh]

13. I’m going to assume this is from the same speech today…

Bush urges allies "not get caught up in past bickering" over Iraq

<http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=1436968>



There’s something about “still trying to dictate” while appealing from help that leaves a sour taste. I think it’s something that spoiled frat kids just never mature out of.

[underpants]

19. Look that was in the past let's just move on

Uh yeah that was like ohmagod like 8 months ago so like getoverit.

[Aristus]

18. Keep it up everyone!

'is boah needs uh edjumacation.

When did Bush lie? Well, it's hard to hear him with your head buried in the sand, there, john moore. When hasn't he lied? Let me guess: You watch Fox News, right? The Volkischer Beobachter of American media outlets! Jeez, I can't tell if you are crazy, or just plain stupid. And! What's! With! All! The! Exclamation! Points!?!

[9215]

20. Fuck YOU Mr. pResident Chimp n' Thief

Solve the goddamn problem yourself! Come up with a plan and do one fucking thing in your life without shifting the responsibility on to somebody else. You're just trying to suck other countries and the UN into the BFEE vortex of geo-political fascism

I say let the son-of-a-bitch stew in the shithouse mess he has created, and stew and stew and stew!

[noonwitch]

21. My suggestion-resign, and take your VP, cabinet and Delay with you

Let the man we elected take over.

[Sagan]

22. Remember this suggestion, Chimpy?

I think it was made by a multi-million-person "focus group":

DON'T ATTACK IRAQ, YOU STUPID APE!! IT'S A QUAGMIRE AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AFTER YOU WIN!!

[Emboldened Chimp]

26. Miserable Failure

"Open to suggestions" can translate quite easily to: "I have NO CLUE what I'm doing. Someone please come bail my dumb ass out, again. Daddy?"

[sendero]

28. Ever considered

Seppuku?

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Hey Georgie! First, Resign. Then, . . .

The Professor

[karlschneider]

32. My suggestion: Do what Socrates did.

:grr:

[calimary]

35. Captain Jean-Luc Picard used that remark

"open for suggestions" in the few times where his back was absolutely (and presumably hopelessly) against the wall. I wonder if Bush realizes that's where his back is...

And once again, he has Colin Powell to go around like some collection agency with his hand out, to beg the people he insulted earlier. Notice, Bush and Rumsfeld (the worst offenders) aren't bothering to do any of it. They leave that to others.

[LibDemAlways]

37. Here's my suggestion:

The chimp, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfowitz, Powell, Rice, and Perle should take a one-way flight to Iraq - leaving the secret service and any other security personnel at home. They should announce their arrival well in advance so that as many Iraqis as possible will be at the airport to "greet" them.

People around the world could tune into the "welcoming ceremony" which would be broadcast as a "pay per view" special - proceeds of which would be returned to the people of Iraq so that they could begin to recover from the damage and destruction these thugs have wrought.