America Should Not be Judged by Current Actions, Says Albright

[Gloria]

From new World Media Watch up now at http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical

Tomorrow at Buzzflash.com


1//Gulf News Online, United Arab Emirates 14/12/2004, 07:01

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/ArabForumNF.asp?ArticleID=143634



AMERICA SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED BY CURRENT ACTIONS, SAYS ALBRIGHT

By Daniel Bardsley, Staff Reporter



Dubai: A former US diplomat has told the Arab world not to judge America by the current US regime's actions.



Madeleine Albright, secretary of state during Bill Clinton's second term in office, said that many Americans are concerned about President George W. Bush's foreign policy.



Speaking during a panel discussion at the Arab Strategy Forum, Dr. Albright said she is worried that US military action in Iraq had alienated the Arab world.



"Not everyone in the United States approves of this administration's foreign policy," she said.

(SNIP)

She went on to say that there was no fundamental reason why the United States should be in conflict with the Arab world.



"We must not allow ourselves to think in terms of a clash of civilisations. We should support various reformers who want to get the best out of globalisation while keeping their identity," she said.

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[jimshoes]

1. Gee Madeline,

as much as I agree with ya, what else do they have to go on?

[DulceDecorum]

17. She judged Iraq by Saddam's actions

and said that the death of thousands of Iraqi children was worth it.

[FDRrocks]

24. IMO, she would be a good fit for the current admin.

Also, she seems to have forgotten the volatile US existence in the area during the 1970's and 80's. Whatever, Madeline.

[HawkerHurricane]

2. By their deed ye shall know them...

alas and alack, our deeds truly sucketh right now.

[teryang]

3. What did she say?

"That's a price I'm willing to pay"

[katinmn]

4. Good for her! n/t

[fshrink]

5. Once again, a woman has more balls than a man.

Susan McDougall and all the others, here's to you.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

6. At least she is on the record as saying that * is mucking things up.

Sadly, I doubt it really matters that we don't all support the current regime. After all did the majority of Iraqi people support Saddam? Look at all the good it has done them. We will pay for the crimes of our leader, too.

[BillZBubb]

7. The results of the last "selection" make her point moot.

They have no other way to judge us. Americans gave the Chimperor four more years to screw things up even more. And screw them up he will.

[Tace]

8. Bushco Stole The Election, In Case You Hadn't Noticed

The American people did not give Bushco four more years.

[goclark]

13. Thank you for clarifying!

We need to make sure that we put the tape in " Bush did not win.
He does not have a mandate. He stole the election AGAIN!"

[leesa]

9. America WILL be judged by current actions. Without a doubt.

[Solly Mack]

10. I judge America by her current actions

I got no problem doing so. I know not everyone suppports what Chucklenuts has done in America's name...but it was still done in America's name. America wears it.

Now, Americans...especially those who don't support the Boy Blunder, shouldn't be judged by America's current actions....but we will be.

We can thank our government for that.

[Just Me]

11. She's right!!! Moreover, the Busholinis' psy-ops failed to manipulate

all us "49ers"!!! The Busholinis are, in reality, a pitiful radical minority and certainly do not represent the vast majority of American values or priorities. In fact, this pitiful radical minority of corrupt power-mongers have deceived and betrayed the loyalty and trust of the American people who SHOULD be able to trust leadership.

This isn't a "clash of civilizations",...it's a circle of heartless, gluttonous, arrogant old freakin' men who do nothing but f*ck things up real good in order to fulfill their shallow self-interests.

[Sandpiper]

12. The lady doth protest too much

Considering she was the one who said 500,000 dead was "a price I'm willing to pay."

[WatchWhatISay]

21. She has apologized for saying that

And admitted that it was a stupid thing to say. When are you guys gonna give this gal a break. I mean she was SecoState during the CLINTON administration, which despite its bad policy of reckless pursuit of globalization at any cost, also did more to promote peace throughout the world than any other recent administration.

I was shocked when I first heard that she said that, but lets not just focus on one act in a persons whole career, espcially when she herself has renounced it.

[DenverDem]

14. Since we are not in the streets like the Ukrainians, we are all complicit.

Don't kid yourselves. Every amerikkkan has the blood of Iraqi babies on their hands and will have to answer to St. Peter for it (and probably to the rest of the world at the point of guns in the not too distant future).

Posting on an ineffectual internet site does not absolve you from guilt.

[tom_paine]

16. Beat me to it by One Minute!

A sad day.

The founding fathers must be spinning like tops in their graves.

[Just Me]

19. Assign guilt as you may.

You cannot assign it to me,...or any of the other individuals who have personally sacrificed to oppose the stead of this leadership.

Perhaps, you have failed to give enough (in accordance to your standards),...or you have taken on the authority to be prosecutor, judge and jury of every person who melts into the pot of this country.

So be it. Assign guilt as you may.

Personally, I hold those who are supposed to act as a "beacon of democracy" accountable FIRST. Then, I hold those who adamantly support them responsible. As for the rest of our people, which I verily have been tricked by deceipt and betrayal,...they are the majority in whom I will never, ever give up belief in their capacity to choose and their humaneness.

[DenverDem]

20. I worked my ass off to elect someone else.

Gave a lot of money and time. Watched all that get stolen away and so far have sat on my ass. I am pissed at myself.

The Ukrainians took to the streets and overturned their fraudulent election.

This majority you speak of is damnably silent in the face of the greatest criminal act in our history. You may have faith in them but the rest of the world thinks we SUCK, and they are right. We are too lazy to deserve democracy and we have lost it because of our fat assed sloth.

If you think the atrocities that are being done in your name in Iraq don't damn you, you are in for a rude awakening.

[tom_paine]

15. Too late now. 2004: By hook or by crook(probably) Imperial power remains

That's that. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

WE are the torturers, WE (collectively, obviously, not personally) are quite content with torture and murder as national Policy.

Right out in the open now. Contemptuously.

Nope, WE made the election close enough to steal or perhaps (though I doubt it) gave that Monstrous Antichrist an actual majority.

And that's that.

And we Free Americans, in a sea of Imperial Subjects, are equally as responsible in our own ways.

[VegasWolf]

18. Bullshit, AmeriKKKa just relelected its leader. AmeriKKKa is accountable!

[Tinoire]

22. Oh Madeleine. Please STFU! Go away!

You cute little trouble-maker you who were willing to dump the blood of a million Iraqi children on our heads and who rattled your little saber against Milosewicz so much that you would have had egg on your face if you had backed down so you butchered a bunch of poor Serbs to build pipelines in their country and appropriate the biggest, richest, metal mines in Europe.

I have no patience for neo-Liberals who collaborated in the neo-Con game. Go away Madeleine and let better people speak for us.

I guarantee it won't be someone so in bed with the corporations that they utter sentences like the one you just uttered today "We should support various reformers who want to get the best out of globalisation".


Well the Iraqis have globalization now! They even have Monsanto! You are thrilled Madeleine. Do not for one minute pretend you are not.

'Things worth fighting for'

Foreign policy team visits OSU

By Mike Spahn
Daily Staff Reporter
COLUMBUS - President Clinton's foreign policy team met yesterday at Ohio State University with a rowdy crowd in a town hall meeting to discuss the current situation in Iraq.



Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Secretary of Defense William Cohen and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger met for 90 minutes with a crowd that often yelled and chanted in protest of possible U.S. military action against Iraq.

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The discussion was interrupted early and often. Protesters began chanting anti-war slogans during Albright's opening comments and continued through much of the debate.

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http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/feb/02-19-98/news/news1.html

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COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- Cheers and standing ovations greeted U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright Thursday, but U.S. threats to use force against Iraq ran afoul of skeptical Americans for the second straight day.

A day after a stormy town meeting in Columbus, Ohio, Albright met with college students in Nashville, Tennessee, and Columbia, South Carolina, as the Clinton administration continued its attempts to rally support for its hard-nosed policy on Iraq.

And while Albright was greeted with an honor guard, a marching band and old-fashioned Southern courtesy -- rather than the jeers and taunts she ran into in Ohio Wednesday -- she also found her audiences informed and willing to question authority.

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But questioners focused on whether Iraq is a threat to national security, and concerns for the welfare of innocent Iraqi civilians.

(snip)

Standing before a map of the Middle East and using rhetoric reminiscent of that used by then-President George Bush in 1991 before the Gulf War, she vilified Hussein as the most evil man the world had seen since Hitler.

(snip)

http://www.cnn.com/US/9802/19/iraq.us/


Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)


http://www.fair.org/extra/0111/iraq.html

[VegasWolf]

23. Thanks Tinoire, you said that much more eloquently than I did! Good job!

ed sp

[Tinoire]

26. Madeleine Albright and Maggie Thatcher are 2 women who make me see red

The both always look like someone's holding a small turd under their nose when they talk.

Loathe both both of those murderous creatures.

It was my pleasure ;) And it's good to have support. Thanks!

Peace

[bhikkhu]

25. So what should I tell the kids?

Its not what you do, its what you used to do thats important?

As long as you're sorry later, its ok to lie, steal, and kick people's asses now?

I know you've been beating up all the littler kids at school, but its ok because I know you have a really good heart?

[Tinoire]

27. Depends whether you want them to grow up posting at DU or FR

;)

I'd go for the DU and tell them the opposite, lol.

Good post bhikkhu.

[The_Casual_Observer]

28. No, the US really isn't allowing all the bad shit to happen.

It's all just a bad dream I suppose. Get your head out of your ass Dr. Albright.