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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:01 PM
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Ohio Recount Resembles Florida in 2000
Ohio Recount Resembles Florida in 2000

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By JOHN NOLAN, Associated Press Writer

CINCINNATI - In a scene reminiscent of Florida circa 2000, two teams of Republican and Democratic election workers held punch-card ballots up to the light Wednesday and whispered back and forth as they tried to divine the voters' intent from a few hanging chads.

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According to a sworn statement from Sherole Eaton, the county's deputy director of elections, a TRIAD representative told her on Friday he wanted to inspect the county's tabulating machine. She said the employee then told her that "the battery in the computer was dead and that the stored information was gone."

"He proceeded to take the computer apart and call his office to get information to input into our computer," Eaton said.

Conyers said similar TRIAD visits have been reported in other Ohio counties.

Brett Rapp, president of TRIAD, told The New York Times that preparing machines for a re-count was standard procedure and said he welcomed any investigation.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041215/ap_on_el_pr/ohio_recount&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:14 PM
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1. How did he know the battery failed?
Computer batteries rarely fail. Oh, he just happened to have a new one in his pocket? Yeah, right.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:17 PM
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2. Too bad...the stored information is all gone...Go Triad Go
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:27 PM
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5. Triad?
were they in Pinellas County too? Holy cow, Batman!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:17 PM
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3. question
Why did she let him do it?

I would have refused, I think.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:18 PM
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4. Did you expect any thing different from these repukes?
It is just their style.
They did it once, twice and now they will continue to do it again and again. Until the people rise up and revolt against them.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:02 PM
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6. Except this time, where are the media? From FL 2000, burned into my brain
is the image of a big burly guy in a white shirt, forehead made huge by a hairline that has receded quite far. He's sitting at a table with his head rolled up and a punchcard about two inchies from his eye, looking at the ceiling light through the card so he can classigy a "chad". Remember that fragment of videotape? It was stock footage for YEARS, whenever a snippet of news about Florida came up in the debate over the "Carter Ford Commission" report of July 2001, and the "Help America Vote Act of 2002".

Question is, where are the images of the Ohio recount? This time, the whole world is NOT watching.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:08 PM
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7. The Difference to FL 2000: We Had A Candidate In The Process
not like now with our current candidate standing on the sidelines coyly thowing softballs at the judges! :grr:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:10 PM
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8. What?
What kind of storage media loses its head if the battery dies? You mean this stuff never makes it out of RAM into someplace more, um... apropriate?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:20 PM
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9. "as they tried to divine the voters' intent from a few hanging chads."....
not to grand of an image to portray!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:25 PM
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10. current average rating is 3.30 with 578 vote(s).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:30 PM
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11. "Observers for the presidential campaigns of John Kerry



......... (news - web sites), President Bush (news - web sites) and Green Party candidate David Cobb kept watch from chairs a few feet away.

The scene is being repeated statewide this week in a recount in the state that put Bush over the top in the election last month.

Officially, Bush beat Kerry by 119,000 votes in Ohio, but two third-party candidates collected the required $113,600 for a recount they claim will show serious irregularities. The Kerry campaign is supporting the recount, though it has acknowledged it will not change the outcome.

The recounts began this week. At least 35 of Ohio's 88 counties had completed their recounts or were starting Wednesday, according to a survey by The Associated Press. Some of the tallies will not be complete until next week. ......
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:32 PM
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12. They don't have batteries that last AT LEAST past any possible recount????
If it is that close the batteries could fail during the election.

Are all electronic voting machines able to operate on just a battery if an outlet is unavailable? Or do they only operate with electricity? If they have a battery... shouldn't they be able to recharge when plugged into an outlet?
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JMS825 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:48 PM
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13. ok so the votes were lost
does this mean since the votes were lost they wont be counted in that county meaning not everyones votes count and that Bush and Kerry both lost the votes so the other 87 counties will decide the election?
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:20 PM
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14. read and VOTE it up.. give it a 5 !! nt
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MeinaShaw Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:49 PM
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15. Ohiorida
As I understand the electorial college system, once the electors vote, that is it. They are not really bound by anything, including the vote total. They could have as easily have voted for Kerry as for Bush. They only pledge to vote according to the popular vote outcome.

If a judge were to hand down a decision to correct the vote count, how can he force the electors to change their mind?

It is another case of an election stolen. Ohiorida
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:06 AM
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16. Oh, man -- he took the computer apart and called office for input --
Is there NO safeguard whatsoever over our electoral process?
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