CA:Recall bankroller may take up new ballot cause (no benefits to illegals

[Newsjock]

http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/9634156p-10518598c.html

By Aurelio Rojas
The Sacramento Bee

SACRAMENTO -- The California congressman who bankrolled signature gathering for the recall of Gov. Gray Davis has taken a first step toward financing a constitutional amendment that would deny benefits to illegal immigrants in the state.

Rep. Darrell Issa, through the Rescue California Leadership Committee, is mailing letters to every voter who circulated a petition last year to recall Davis.

... The constitutional amendment would bar the Legislature from granting drivers licenses to illegal immigrants and cut their access to professional or commercial licenses and higher education subsidies.

... Schwarzenegger supported Prop. 187, but the GOP governor has dismissed the new measure as "old hat" and cautioned that "we should find ways to work together rather than to find ways of going the other way."

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[demosincebirth]

1. I expected this a lot sooner.

[AlCzervik]

2. What the hell is Darrel Issa running for next?

total media whore. I had the pleasure of ripping him a new one Live! on Cnn before the recall election.

[idiosyncratic]

3. Without the illegal immigrants, the economy would falter

Illegal immigrants have become essential to many "industries." Agri-business, sweat shops, meat-packing plants, etc. would all shut down if it wasn't for the illegal immigrants they employ.

"Regular" people won't take the jobs these businesses offer.

[saigon68]

4. And the "OWNERS" of these pay MILLIONS to the REPUKE PARTY

They all belong behind Bars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QC]

5. ""Regular" people won't take the jobs these businesses offer"

...for the pittance that the boss wants to pay.

That last part always gets left off.

[idiosyncratic]

8. It isn't always about the poor wages (although many times it is)

My first experience with an illegal immigrant situation happened in th 80's. A friend owned a ranch in Idaho and depended on Juan to come up from Mexico every year to work.

My friend actually paid him well and provided him with a nice studio cabin to live in. He provided him with all the food and other necessities he needed. Juan was okay with staying on the ranch practically 100% of the time.

Well, that year Juan was caught at the border and sent back to Mexico. He was never able to make it up to Idaho.

My friend couldn't find a local guy to do the work that summer, not because he didn't pay enough, but because Juan was capable of doing the work of three local people.

The local guys couldn't stand the isolation either and were always taking off, leaving the irrigation lines in place too long, killing off that strip of alfalfa. In once instance a guy allowed some cattle to get into the wet alfalfa field. A couple of cows died because of that negligence.

I don't know what the answer is, but I know that my friend was dependent on the hard-working, efficiency of Juan. The next year Juan did make it up. He worked for the usual four months, then returned to his family in Mexico.

[GraphicQueen]

6. Of course, Americans would in fact...

take those jobs if the employers would pay a decent wage and such. But illegals in this country have devastated the wages for so many industries. Look what they have done to the construction jobs in this country. It isn't nice at all. And another thing, exactly why is it OK with anyone in this country that a criminal should get any kind treatment at all over a citizen?

[bahrbearian]

13. Exactly, and whose taxes will pay for their benefits ?

[Cobalt Violet]

11. No they won't take those jobs unless they had to pay enough...

That people could actually afford to do them.

[DBoon]

7. I'd rather have the employers

pay for the benefits! I am sick of my taxes going to subsidize sweatshops.

Folks who knowingly hire illegals should be the ones penalized.

And don't tell me these employers don't know - they do know, they just don't want to be accountable. All this subcontracting nonsense is just a shield to evade legal responsibility.

The day an immigrant of any status gets the same pay and benefits as a native, when no worker can be pitted against another, will be the day when all workers see justice.

[Bono71]

9. No question, if this country thinks that illegals do more

harm than good to the economy, then the businesses that hire them should be prosecuted. Also, local governments that fail to cooperate with the feds on enforcement (sending illegals back) should be taken to court, as well.

[DBoon]

10. Exploiting a semi-salve workforce is inherently harmful to this country

The problem isn't immigrants, it is the lowering of workplace standards to the point where a sub-subsistance wage becomes normal and expected.

[Pithy Cherub]

12. The image of Issa openly crying and sobbing

when he withdrew from the governor's race will be imprinted forever. He obviously doesn't recall how badly this immigrant bashing hurt Pete Wilson. Darrell remains happily wedded to a course of political failure!

[NVMojo]

14. I am not surprised ...this guy always had his agenda out in the open....

[FreakinDJ]

15. Prosecute the Employer not the Employee

This is stupid

These people would not be here if it were not for huge corporations like Walmart paying off politicians to look the other way as 1000s cross the border every day.

Then we the stupid tax paying masses that allow these crooked political asswipes to remain in office and end up supporting these same so called exploited workers through medical / Medicaid / welfare and eventually social security.

Maybe some are exploited but many are here because they figure they are raking it in. $15 an hour under the table, wife collecting food stamps and welfare for the 2 kids and my brother and his family splitting the cost of this 2 bedroom apartment. Sounds pretty rough?

Right...many of these same working families are making payments on ranchets south of the boarder. You don't have to work too many years under the table to pay off a nice place in Mexico.

But remember...if I get sick I'm coming back across the boarder for some more of the free medical

[SoCalDem]

16. Oh Goodie.. another dumb idea.. What a dolt!!