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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:58 AM
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(Calif.) State GOP fears 'bloodbath' at convention
From Thursday's SF Chronicle
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/11/GOP.TMP

Los Angeles -- California conservatives are worried about "a bloodbath in public" at this weekend's state GOP convention, when they'll see actor Arnold Schwarzenegger and state Sen. Tom McClintock, the last two prominent Republicans in the recall campaign to replace Democratic Gov. Gray Davis.

"Conservatives want to win, but they want to win on principle," said Dan Schnur, who was running Republican Peter Ueberroth's campaign until the Orange County businessman dropped out on Tuesday. "McClintock has to convince them he can win. Schwarzenegger has to convince them he has the principles."

Schwarzenegger is scheduled to speak to the convention at lunch Saturday, while McClintock gets his turn a few hours later at dinner. But McClintock isn't likely to get his hoped-for debate, which GOP Chairman Duf Sundheim warned would be "a bloodbath in public."

Party officials also may head off any attempts to endorse either of the candidates, a floor fight that could highlight rifts in the party.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:15 AM
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1. This is all fiction. They have a script. McClintock is supposed to make
Arnold look liberal. The only way he wins is to get a lot of Democrats to vote for him.

Why don't CA'ians see that this guy is going to give the farm away to the big media companies and the defense industry too?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:33 AM
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2. Maybe most CA'ians do see that.
Remember that big media is owned by the same folks who profit from Republicans.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:45 AM
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4. The government IS NOT the people for the peole by the people
It is the Carlyle boys, Halliburton, and big big big business, and the media caters to their wishes.

Welcome to corporate America.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 05:55 AM
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3. mclintock will drop out just before
the election -- this is his ''debut'' to run for the u.s. senate. when he drops out -- the repuke take-over will be complete.
people will vote for schwarzeneger becase of two reasons.
first is the cult of celebrity. americans can't resist it.
second he will perceived as a centrist in order to ''justify'' in the minds of the public the above.
california has not got a clue as to what they are about to do. fortunately i'm in nor-cali which will retain it's liberal roots. but we will suffer greatly from the impending budget cuts we are in for.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:29 PM
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15. ok!
"fortunately i'm in nor-cali which will retain it's liberal roots. but we will suffer greatly from the impending budget cuts we are in for."

you haven't even seen the HALF of it! some departments are planning to lay off ENTIRE UNITS.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:46 AM
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5. 'Conservatives want to win on principle?'
Yeah, sure. The principles of lying, cheating, disenfranchisement and buying what they can't get through the (formerly) democratic process. Guess it revolves around what one's definition of is is, eh?

:evilgrin:
dbt
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:55 AM
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7. Thank you dbt...
I was just about to reply with the very same response. Conservative and principle in the same sentence? Give me a break. Soooiieee PIG! :-)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:18 AM
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11. ... and interest.
It's about the perquisites of wealth.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:47 AM
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6. want to win
>>>"Conservatives want to win, but they want to win on principle

What principle might that be? Haven't seen many "principles" from the Repugs in years that I'd want aired in public.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:36 AM
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10. Repub Principles
The glamor of a plantation economy, ruled by an idle well healed elite supported by masses of poorly paid compliant laborers.

Strong arm political controls to make sure these poorly paid laborers never attempt to change their lot.

Fascists have principles, like satanists are a religion.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:57 AM
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8. A vote for Arnold is a vote for Bush...
simple as that.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:18 AM
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9. You guys sound awful defeatist condidering the numbers
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 09:19 AM by Capn Sunshine
The repukes here are famous for these shenanigans.

Latest polling shows Yes on recall gave up over 4 points last two weeks.

Bustamante has a comfortable lead.

We plan to defeatthe recall, despite all you guys watchimg Fox news.

Just get your asses out there with the rest of the overwhelming dem majority and vote NO.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:59 AM
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12. Keep up the fight
I know my old buddies down in Claremont are fighting tooth and nail, my parents are trying to get out as many voters as they can to vote no!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 11:28 AM
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13. And don't forget...
That 4 points was before Bill shows up...Big Dog will remind people of why the recall is a Really Bad Idea.

The only thing I'm concerned about is Oprah putting Ahnuld on her show. I just hope that it's not a complete lovefest.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:13 PM
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14. We can send him and the rest packing.
We can defeat the recall. Absentee ballots all around! VOTE VOTE VOTE! We know our strategy: NO on recall, YES on Bustamante. We must not rely on the GOP discord in order to gain victory. We must expose Arnie's right-wing agenda to hand the state over to corporate vampires like Enron. We can do it! It's going on as we speak. Please do your part!
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