China Emerging as U.S. Rival for Canada's Oil

[kskiska]

CALGARY, Alberta, Dec. 21 - China's thirst for oil has brought it to the doorstep of the United States.

Chinese energy companies are on the verge of striking ambitious deals in Canada in efforts to win access to some of the most prized oil reserves in North America.

The deals may create unease for the first time since the 1970's in the traditionally smooth energy relationship between the United States and Canada.

Canada, the largest source of imported oil for the United States, has historically sent almost all its exports of oil south by pipeline to help quench America's thirst for energy. But that arrangement may be about to change as China, which has surpassed Japan as the second-largest market for oil, flexes its muscle in attempts to secure oil, even in places like the cold boreal forests of northern Alberta, where the oil has to be sucked out of the sticky, sandy soil.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/23/business/worldbusiness/23canada.html?oref=login&ex=buzzflash&adxnnl=1&oref=login&adxnnlx=1103900719-4B6Tuug8LQPsYAPEe6bPWw

[tuvor]

1. Well, if the US can't play fair in the first place

maybe it's time we started playing ball with someone who will.

U.S. bid to force lumber talks backfired, trade minister tells U.S. official
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&e=1&u=/cpress/softwood_lumber

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Book on the subject.... no review.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0333915194/qid=1103903126/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/104-7387774-0284724?v=glance&s=books

Asia's Coming Energy Wars: Myths and Dilemmas of Energy, Security, and the Pacific Future

[Bono71]

3. More evidence that China is becoming an economic

force that will rival (or surpass) the US in the near future.

[jmcgowanjm]

4. The US is under checkmate

More reasons for frantic manuevering in DC/at Xmastime no less

On 10 November 2004, the India Daily reported that,
"Russian President Putin is taking a lead role in the
most powerful coalition of regional and superpowers in
the world. The coalition consists of India, China, Russia
and Brazil. This will challenge the superpower supremacy
of America." … "He wants to establish a long-
term Russian footprint in Latin America in order to
expand Moscow's geopolitical influence in the region. Brazil
is very open to the coalition concept where these large
countries support each other in term of trade,
economics, international politics and defense."
           
Just this single strategic move means that the
new coalition embraces just over three quarters of the
world's total population, eighty percent of its natural
resources, and a majority of technical and scientific
experts.
           
What absolutely no one outside Russia and Venezuela
knew until two weeks ago, is that 20 of the fifty Mig 29 SMTs
are fully equipped to carry and fire the devastating SS-N-25
"Onyx", a devastating and
completely unstoppable Mach 2.9 ramjet anti-ship cruise
missile which skims the waves at twenty feet, before delivering
a knock out blow to its maritime target more than 200
kilometers away.
           
So great is the kinetic energy at the point of impact on
the target, that Onyx can sink an American aircraft carrier
or supertanker using only a conventional penetrating
warhead. Those scientists who might doubt this
should calculate the impact energy of 5,500 pounds of
missile striking a carrier or tanker at a terminal velocity of
2,460 feet per second. It is understood that Russia is
providing Venezuela with a stockpile of forty anti-ship
Onyx missiles.
 
  Concurrently on the other side of the world, more
pieces of the strategic jigsaw were falling into place, and on
2 December 2004 the Asia Times published "China Rocks
the Geopolitical Boat with Iran Oil Deal", which is probably one
of the top stories of the century.
   
America is already desperately short of energy, and it
can only get worse. Iraq is producing nothing at all as usual,
and the Republican Guard will ensure it stays that way.
OPEC will slow down production in January because it
actually has to. If the OPEC countries keep pumping at
their present outrageous rates to please America, they
will eventually destroy their own economies by
terminally damaging their producing wells. or face
devastating and total economic ruin.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/11-10-04.asp
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/

[jmcgowanjm]

5. A Midwinter's Night's Mare

http://energybulletin.net/3733.html

good analogy is like having a motor scooter with a five-
gallon tank, but the nearest gas station is 10 gallons away.
You can not fill your tank with trips to the gas station because
you burn more than you can bring back—it’s impossible for
you to cover your overhead (the size of your bankroll and the
price of the gas are irrelevant). You might as well put
your scooter up on blocks because you are "out of gas"—
forever.

It's the same with the American economy: if as a country,
we must spend more-than-one unit of energy to produce
enough goods and services to buy one unit of energy,
it's impossible for us to cover our overhead. At that
point, America’s economic machine is "out of gas"—
forever

http://dieoff.com/page143.htm

[jmcgowanjm]

6. O Come, All Ye Clueless

http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diary12.html

[Old and In the Way]

8. Thanks....provocative thoughts.......

[Robbien]

9. The coalition of developing nations is becoming stronger and stronger

Ever since they joined together a year ago last September at the WTO meeting to block the richer nations from plundering their agricultural resources.

This group of more than twenty nations is something everyone should keep their eyes on.

[Old and In the Way]

7. Another reason why we shouldn't have a President bought by US Big Oil

This is the Bush-Republican result of a Big US Oil PNAC foreign polioy.

Kerry and the Democratic vision was to invest in America by evolutionizing our energy vision. Rebuild the infrastructure to make America energy independent through alternative/renewable energy development. Address the degradation of the environment, create jobs and business opportunity here, rebuilding the infrastructure, and address an energy policy that drains the treasury and American blood at an increasing rate.

We have precisely the wrong mindset running this country today.

[Moderator]

10. duplicate

locking - discuss here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1094163