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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:28 AM
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"Insurgency in Iraq 'will not end': Powell
"Insurgency in Iraq 'will not end': Powell
AFP: 12/28/2004

WASHINGTON, Dec 28 (AFP) - US Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday that the insurgency in Iraq "will not end," as insurgents are determined to derail the country's democratic transition.

Powell reiterated that Iraq's January 30 elections will take place as scheduled and that the US and Iraqi forces are working to have security in place for the polls.

But, he told CBS television, "the insurgency will not end."

"These insurgents are determined to have no representative government. They want to go back to a tyranny," Powell said.
(snip)
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?ID=35366

I just love that line
"These insurgents are determined to have no representative government. They want to go back to a tyranny,"


This Colin guy is just such a genius, and come to think of it, sounds just like the good ole USA, all over again :eyes:
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:32 AM
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1. Good grief!
"These insurgents are determined to have no representative government. They want to go back to a tyranny,"

Could it be that they DO want a representative government...just one the the US has nothing to do with?
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:32 AM
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2. Again,
this is something they should've thought of a two years ago. We can't win, there were no wmds, there was no connection to al qaeda, we still don't have bin laden, people are dying everyday, cities are being destroyed...yeah Bush is in control, i feel safer.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:44 AM
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3. Maybe if we build death camps
and just start exterminating Iraqis we can eventually prevail. Eventually we may force them to accept democracy and Diebold machines. If only we can kill enough of them to be able to persuade the Iraqis we mean them well.


And Powell has it only half right - Yes the insurgency-rebellion-resistance is NOT stopping until we leave. I agree. However the election won't have anything to do with IRAQI self determination. We and our Iraqi stooges are the tyrants.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:01 AM
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5. If you think of Bush as an angry snoty little boy that never gets.........
his way in the end you will start to understand the projection of the visions that are being seen. Don't fret, nobody gets out in the end anyway.

Sunni Party Pulls Out of Iraq Vote As Doubts Grow

By Karl Vick
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, December 28, 2004; Page A01

BAGHDAD, Dec. 27 -- The largest political party representing Iraq's Sunni Muslim minority announced Monday that it would drop out of the Jan. 30 election, dealing a fresh blow to the vote's credibility on the same day the top Shiite Muslim candidate survived a car bombing.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28323-2004Dec27?language=printer

Powell pushes for Sunni presence in Iraqi government

United States Secretary of State Colin Powell has urged that Sunni Muslims be fairly represented in a new Iraqi government but denied plans to artificially add Sunnis to an expected Shiite-dominated assembly after next month's elections.

Mr Powell said the United States was working towards successful legislative elections in Iraq on January 30, but sidestepped a question about what would happen if the polls were compromised by violence, threatened boycotts or intimidation.
(snip)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1273025.htm

Not out of the loop, just loopy , some poor fools never learn :shrug:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:56 AM
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8. Thanks, no labels. That was great. . .
Not out of the loop, just loopy. . .
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:51 PM
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12. And how many of us saw this coming
I for one never felt this would be a "wham bam thank you maam" Gulf War. This was taking out a government and installing a new one. They had to have known it would be this bad.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:44 AM
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4. Nations' economies are on the brink of imploding
and Powell is still fixated on Iraq. Powell is Peter Principle personified.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:12 AM
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6. Perpetual war
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:19 AM
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7. so, let them have a tyranny that's not us
if we pull out and things get bad enough i'llbet the iraqi people will get off their asses and do something about it. I guarantee that with the amount of damage we've donr to their infrastructure that nobody there will be starting a WMD program anytime soon. Oh yeah, theres the oil.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:51 PM
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11. Why do the Iraqi people need to "get off their asses"?
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 12:51 PM by Husb2Sparkly
WE did this. WE caused this. WE went in uninvited. WE destabilized the country. WE destroyed the infrastructure. WE took away what government there was. WE destroyed their schools. WE leveled their cities.

Now THEY have to get off their asses?

Come on ..............
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:23 PM
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13. well
either they build themselves up from the throes of chaos or we're going to end up doing it. no matter who caused it. our two options are to cut and run or stay in iraq for another decade fighting a guerrilla war that probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if we hadn't made it so obvious that we were occupiers not just liberators. We should have left right after saddams statue came down, said heres your country back. good luck. call us if you need some financial aid. I don't think we should have gone but we did, only teo choices I see and neither one of them are easy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:42 PM
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14. Love your post, reminds me of an old Suicidal Tendencies song...
Institutionalized.

"Wait, what do you mean, what are you talking about, we decided!? My best interest?! How can you know what's my best interest is? How can you say what
my best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'm crazy? When I went to
your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning
facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy."
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:31 PM
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9. Well Duh! Isn't this why you didn't go in the first time around Colin?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:48 PM
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10. Security?
US and Iraqi forces are working to have security in place for the polls

What? A few guys with guns at the polling stations? How about for the route to the polls? IED's all over the place. Kill a few folks on the way to the polls and you have voter suppression like Rove could only dream of.

This is such bullshit.

FUCK YOU GEORGE BUSH
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:43 PM
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15. Actually, I recall rebel pamphlets from last year promising elections
After collaborators had been dealt with, of course.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:53 PM
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16. How convenient for Halliburton !
Neverending rebuilding project. We sure didn't see this coming, did we?
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