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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:36 PM
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Ariz. pastor held in Fla. sex counts
Ariz. pastor held in Fla. sex counts

Susan Carroll
Republic Tucson Bureau
Dec. 29, 2004 12:00 AM

A Douglas pastor has been arrested in the reputed molestation of a 6-year-old Florida boy in 1996 and admitted to sexually abusing children in North Carolina and Michigan, authorities said Tuesday.

Robert Armand Enerson, 54, was booked into Cochise County Jail on Monday night on three charges of lewd assault on a child, said Lt. Carlos Guido Jr., a Douglas Police Department spokesman. Enerson, a pastor at the First Assembly of God in Douglas for two years, will be jailed pending extradition to Polk County, Fla., authorities said.

(snip)

An affidavit prepared by Polk County investigators alleges that Enerson molested a boy repeatedly for about a week while serving as a pastor at the New Life Assembly of God in Wahneta, Fla., in 1996. The accuser, now 15, said Enerson entered a bedroom where the boy was playing video games and stroked the child's penis, according to the affidavit.

(snip)

In the affidavit, Enerson also was accused of having "oral relations" and masturbating a boy over a span of seven years, from age 10 to 17, in North Carolina. Enerson also reportedly told detectives he rubbed a Michigan boy's penis an unknown number of times, according to the report.

The church did not return phone messages.

(snip)

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1229pastorarrest29.html

Keeping LBN fair and balanced ;)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:39 PM
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1. Just spreading god's luv across the country. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:40 PM
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2. Fucking freak!
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:42 PM
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3. Do you think the media will go after these nutjobs
the way they did Catholic priests? Jeez...first that Iowa nut with ole Georgie boy and now we have this moral values champion.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:53 PM
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4. Correct me if I'm wrong, here, but aren't "Assembly of God" churches...
...the "Cadillacs" of hellfire and brimstone Christianity? I imagine this guy's victims are traumatized on multiple levels.

Yes, brothers and sisters, another ultra-fucked up ultra-fundie takes a perp walk. Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:58 PM
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5. but, hey, look over there... gay marraige threatens
families... :eyes:
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:37 PM
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7. AofGs are very literal in their interpretation of the Bible
Went to said church as a kid; I ran as fast as I could in the opposite direction when I was a teen. I was put off from all religion until I was about 30, thanks to them.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:20 AM
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17. AOG in Australia...
was distributing 'The Clinton Chronicles' for Falwell in the 90's (I know, because I bought one there), and is currently behind the religious "Family First" party which has just popped up in Australian politics.

'Cornerstone' churches are part of the AOG group and give large amounts of money to Israeli settlers so Jesus can come back and judge us all.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:05 PM
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6. Proving that Pedophiles aren't just in the Catholic Church
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:57 PM
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8. Ah--it's those fine family values in action
Christians hard at work, I guess, showing their "love" for others.

I think Jimmy Swaggert was Assembly of God. Jim Bakker too, if I recall. These are the "hardcore" religion wing we're talking about here.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:32 AM
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11. I thought Jerry Falwell was Assembly of God.
Anyone know? I don't want to look up Falwell. Give myself an ulcer.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:13 AM
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25. Nope...Southern Baptist
He fleece...ahem..."pastors" Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, VA.

John AshKKKroft is AoG, though. Lotsa kooks, though I knew an AoG pastor who was a good guy, I worked on a CD project with their praise team guesting on Hammond. All cut live...that was a fun session. :) Had good friends there too...but they were a more mellow fellowship than a lot of the AoG gangs, some of those folks are just plain scary.

TP
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:25 PM
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37. Lynchburg. Lynch.
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 11:26 PM by NYC
Doesn't surprise me for a Jerry Falwell location. I remember what he said about New Yorkers after 9/11.

What kind of CD project? You mean music? A friend of mine (Jewish) just worked on a Christian CD about a month or two ago. They made him redo a part because it was too "Jewish". I thought this was all a good idea until I found out they really didn't pay him much. Too bad.

I had heard that American Baptists are more mellow than Southern Baptists. I was amazed when I found out that Bill Moyers was Baptist, but it turned out to be American Baptist. He is a shining example of a good person. Does not condemn others for not being what he is. I love Bill Moyers.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:29 PM
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9. What values.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 01:16 AM
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10.  Finally, someone other than a Catholic. You would think the
fundies never touched a kid.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:19 AM
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12. can someone ask falwell why so many christian ministers are sex perverts?
is it indicative of the religion or what?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:58 AM
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13. straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
straight christian family values
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:46 AM
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14. Holy moly! Jumpin' Jehosophat. Not another fundie pre-vert.


What can those parents be thinking?

All this idiot will have to do is stand before his congregation like Jimmy Swaggart and squall, "I have sinned, Oh Lord," and everything will be jes' fine. He'll be back in bidness again, bringing more souls from the comfort of their happy homes to his dazed and confused congregation, to await his next assault on their kids!



Tinoire, thanks for going out of your way to make sure we're getting that fair and balanced fundamentalist news!



Oh, boo hoo hoo.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:58 AM
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22. Anti choice church groups in LA said that children born of incest
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 10:02 AM by The Flaming Red Head
could strengthen ties between father and daughter. They put out a pamphlet that was a circular included with the Sunday paper (in the 1990’s) detailing why rape incest clause should not be included in anti abortion legislation and wrote a whole piece on how a child born of incestuous/rape relationships could actually strengthen family ties between daughter and molester. (These were mainstream fundamentalist churches that financed and wrote the pamphlet)


(And people wonder why I am so worried about these churches distributing aid to needy families?)


(LA-Louisiana)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:19 AM
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23. That's utterly revolting...
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 11:15 AM by TwoSparkles
Why weren't those people arrested for perpetuating child rape?

I run support groups for incest survivors, and I can tell you this--there are NO positive benefits to this crime. The relationship between the father and daughter is completely destroyed.

Some of the bi-products of incest are as follows: Eating disorders, self mutilation, chronic depression, rage, suicide, agoraphobia, drug and alcohol addictions to quell the pain, an inability to trust, self loathing, low self esteem and loads of personal pain and anguish.

These things are overcome with lots of hard work in therapy, but to suggest that incest is beneficial is outrageous.

These sick freaks.

One of my colleagues treats perpetrators. There are two rationalizations that perps use to justify their abuse of innocent children: 1.) The abuse didn't harm the child. 2.) The child actually liked or enjoyed the abuse.

Do these church-going folk realize that their dogma is identical to that of convicted child rapists, serial pedophiles and other child-sex-crimes perpetrators?

I hope to God someone is watching these people and paying attention to what they are doing. It sounds like these people are rationalizing the sexual abuse of children.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:23 AM
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26. Life begins at conception crowd; offspring of the fallout from Swaggart
ministries.

A lot of them came from northern states to be close to Swaggart and when he had his fall they formed their own congregations and took over Louisiana politics, churches, and culture.

They brag about rescuing raped 11 year olds from the abortion mills.

It seems they’ve now thoroughly infiltrated the Democratic Party in that state too.

(You can't put all the blame on the Catholics in Louisiana, a lot of them are pro-choice.)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:50 AM
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15. I have sinned kick!
C'mon, Pastor Enerson! We know you can do it!



Squall along with Jimmy, Reverend! Here ya go:
And most of all, to my Lord and my Savior, my Redeemer, the One whom I have served and I love and I worship. I bow at His feet, who has saved me and washed me and cleansed me. I have sinned against You, my Lord. And I would ask that Your precious blood would wash and cleanse every stain, until it is in the seas of God's forgetfulness, never to be remembered against me anymore.


http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jswaggartapologysermon.html

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:48 AM
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18. Beautifully put Judi Lynn and great photos
:yourock:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:54 AM
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19. That Swaggart moment
was one of the all time ROTFL moments of my life. Tears rolled down my cheeks. I laughed and laughed and laughed. Sickos.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:49 AM
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21. I got off when Jimmy Bakker crawled under his desk and
got in the fetal position when the authorities came to take him to prison.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:46 PM
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35. Hi, 0007. I can't imagine how stupid you'd have to be to see these guys
as "authority figures!" Omigod! Almost makes you dizzy just trying to think of someone that confused.

What a shame there are so many of these people around who refuse to grow up and learn to think for themselves.

Have you ever heard of this piece of crap, Billy James Hargis?
Billy James Hargis

Rightwing preacher laid low by sexual scandal

Michael Carlson
Friday December 10, 2004
The Guardian

Although Billy James Hargis, who has died aged 79, never achieved the respectability of Billy Graham, his mix of fundamentalist Christianity and virulent anti-communism, disseminated at his peak in the early 1960s across a network of some 250 US television and 500 radio stations, gave him an influence reminiscent of the 1930s right-wing radio preacher Father Coughlin. When someone finally stood up to his red-baiting broadcasts, the result was a landmark court decision on broadcasting fairness.

His use of his churches to organise rightwing candidates might have served as a template for the strategy of George W Bush's svengali, Karl Rove. Hargis's ministry brought him a vast fortune, and, in a tradition going back at least to the inter-war period and Sister Aimee McPherson, he was brought down by sexual scandal.
(snip)

Hargis's "communist" targets soon expanded, to government, the media, and even churches less committed than his to his fight. In 1957, the Disciples Of Christ withdrew his ordination, but by then his televised ministry was bringing in more than $1m a year, and he had established links with another evangelist, Carl McIntire, and General Edwin Walker, the rightwing general and John Birch Society leader. But the seeds of Hargis's downfall were planted firmly in his success.
(snip)

As his media power waned, Hargis founded the American Christian College in 1971. Having denounced the Beatles as "godless", he sold his school with cleancut images of its choir, the "All-American Kids", which became a touring show. In 1976, however, Time magazine reported that a student couple, married by Hargis in the college chapel, discovered on their wedding night that both had lost their virginity to Hargis. A number of male choir members accused him of coercing them into sex, justifying his seductions by quoting the example of David lying with Jonathan. Hargis denied the charges, saying communists and Satan were conspiring against him. But Hargis was forced to resign from his college.
(snip)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,1370700,00.html



I was living in Pensacola, Florida for one year when I saw his beet-red face raging at the tv camera on one of his dandy evangelistic shows. There was drool flying everywhere as he howled how in the "last days" the streets would be flowing with the blood of God's enemies. He shouted: "Oh, I can't wait for that day, can you?" or something similar. Left us all feeling a little perplexed. Never forgot his name after that, and wasn't one bit surprised to learn he was chasing everyone around who was dimwitted enough to have wandered into his Idiot's Paradise.

One odd thing stood out about the guy: he had HUGE diamond rings which looked like car lights under the tv cameras. In the strictest fundamentalist communities things like gaudy jewelry are simply not allowed. That made him look a little peculiar.
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:43 AM
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24. I live in Polk County, Fl...the buckle of the bible belt...
and yes...the county is a red county with only a handful of Progressives.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:10 PM
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33. Interesting. He's sinned against the Lord
and seeks forgiveness from the Lord. Obviously, Jimmy has forgotten that inconvenient passage about what one does "to the least of my brothers, is done unto me". So it seems that this is a sneaky way to ask forgiveness from everyone except the actual person who should be asked.

Church Lady: How conveeeennyyeentt.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:27 PM
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38. Boy, do I remember, "I have sinned."
That was a precious moment. Hilarious.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:14 AM
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16. I guess he's the ASS in the ASSemblies of Gawd!
There are many more lying phonies like him!
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:43 AM
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20. This is why religious groups shouldn't distribute food stamps
Too many pedophiles and perverts.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:45 AM
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27. Assembly of God
One very frightening organization or whatever you want to call it. I'd call them a cult myself.

Had a run in with them a few years ago by sheer accident and it was really very scary. :scared:

The person I dealt with was a fat pig like this guy too. Must be one of the requirements perhaps?

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:00 PM
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28. Another Assembly of God disciple...
This article ran in the Des Moines Register this month. A local Assembly of God youth minister sexually abused and carried on an ongoing affair with a 16-year old girl who was in the youth group that he headed. The perpetrator, Mike Hintz, was showcased by President Bush, at one of Bush's campaign rallies. Bush had the entire family up on stage. He offered them up as a fine example of family values and Bush discussed how they benefited from his tax cuts.

Must be something in the holy water, regarding this church.

Link to Des Moines Register article:
http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/3976822/detail.html
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:10 PM
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29. eeekkkkkkk
Look at this guy's (the rev's) face. He looks like he is on drugs or something equally bizarre (brainwashed?).



If there is one "religious" group I really wish would GO AWAY it is the Assembly of God! :puke:

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:33 PM
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30. It could be his expression reminds a person of J. Edgar Hoover!
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 07:34 PM by Judi Lynn




J. Edgar Hoover as a yout', & the "Rev."


Whatever it is, it doesn't look like good news, psychologically, does it? He should consider ministering to the entire group, and avoid using individual "worshippers" in the congregation for his own personal pursuits. It's not a good situation when these loons see their congregations as their personal property, to be used for any purpose which pleases them.



The point of no return!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:40 PM
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31. These are the kind of reprehensible "preachers" that PUSH BUSH.
:cry:

They're into "THE POWER" of GEEEEZZZUUUSSS!!!

:cry:

And "BUSH" is deliverance!!!

:cry:

The most horrible evil is USING "God" to empower oneself over others. It is the unforgiveable sin,...in my humble view.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:04 PM
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32. Thank GOD he didn't try to marry them
Because then, he would have been really, really bad....




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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:26 PM
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34. My parents lived near this church in FLA
check it out "Wahneta" is pronounced 'Juanita' and is very close to Rifle Range Road Baptist Church which is located on Rifle Range Road in Wahneta. When I drove there to visit them, I had to turn where a burnt-out Honda Civic was parked under a live oak tree, with a big sign on it, reading "NOT FOR SALE!"

It was very surreal... but I'm not making this up

http://tinyurl.com/3kuq2

Tut-tut
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:50 PM
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36. Now you're just trying to scare us!
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