L.A. Times poll: Cruz 30% Arnold 25% McClintock 18%

[jos]

http://www.latimes.com/

[CMT]

1. great!!

same five point lead for Cruz. But look at McClintock!! he is coming on strong. Soon people will be calling on Arnold to get out of the race!! This should keep McClintock in.

now both Field and LA times has Cruz up by five. Cruz needs to really start coming on in this last month hitting key democratic groups especially latinos and labor hard to get out a strong vote.

[Brucey]

2. Encouraging...

If the repugs can't win with the termite-eater, this is a very good sign. Hope it holds up.

[denverbill]

3. Very confusing to me.

Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Ahnold winning by about 10% over Cruz. Can't believe the results would vary so widely.

[CMT]

4. that was a survey USA poll

they are notorious for being unreliable because they are unscientific computer based polls.

[Patriot_Spear]

5. What?! Governor Gang-Bang in 2nd place?!

I bet the next one to get gang screwed is McClintock; by his buddies in the GOP (Greed Over Patriotism) Party.

You gotta love it when extremist try to out do one another. Who will be the first to betray GOP standards; McClintock or the GOP itself?

[gristy]

6. yayyyyyyyy!

Go Cruz! :bounce:

[FlashHarry]

7. Actually, this isn't good...

...if you believe the whole Rove-engineered last-minute drop-out of McClintock.

Personally, I doubt that'll be the case. I'm hoping this rips the California GOP asunder.

[CMT]

9. it could be Arnold who is pressured to get out

if McClintock continues to grow.

[buckfush2]

10. don't forget, the ballot is set

anybody who "drops out" now will still get all the votes cast for them, whether they still want to run or not.

I can't see too many Mcclintock supporters switching to Arnold en masse just beacause of a last minute dropout.

[Patriot_Spear]

11. How so?

If 'Ah-nold' drops out, are 'Schwarzenegger Californian's' likely to vote for a 'Dornan Republikkkan'? No.

If McClintock drops out, are Californian's going to vote for a fuzzy position candidate, who has no real positions on the issues, has anti-imigrant bias, despite the fact that he himself is an imigrant, and refuses to debate his opponents? I think not.

As Napoleon once said, "Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake".

[Le Taz Hot]

13. What it's doing is ripping the California Democratic Party assunder

The problem is that Bustamonte has dropped his "no on Recall" stance. There is a statewide Candidate Endorsement Caucus in L.A. on Saturday. This will be the California Democratic Party's "official" endorsement (or not). While Cruz was saying "No on Recall," this would have been a walk for him. However, since he's dropped the "No on Recall" part, we now officially have a mess and I anticipate all-out war on Saturday. JUST what we needed -- more Democratic infighting! This will have unimaginable negative repercussions way beyond the Recall.

[Frances]

15. Actually I read somewhere yesterday

that Bustamante had not changed his position on recall. It's just that when he goes out to campaign, he emphasizes that he is a better choice than a Republican. That makes sense to me.

No on Recall, Yes on Bustamante

[David__77]

24. No "ripping asunder" visible in Sacramento...

The Democratic clubs are solidly behind "No on recall, yes on Bustamante." The party will endorse Bustamante this weekend in LA. It's been made clear to all that Davis is principally focused on the first question, Bustamante on the latter. Regardless of any critiques of the logic of it, the party agrees as does labor and other organizations comprising our constituencies. You'll see a concerted push in this campaign in the weeks ahead.

We can defeat the recall and must fight for this. Bustamante is the lieutenant governor and Democrats have decided that in order to keep the right out of power, it's better to use to weapons instead of one. Two VOTES, hence our strategy.

[Racenut20]

8. Did you see the debate on ESPN

Between Terrell Owens and the "REAL Arnold" ?????

Either one would get my vote before Swartzwhoever and TicTok.

[cjbuchanan]

12. So where is the other 10%

The last I saw the recall vote was 40% no 55% yes. Where is the other 10% plan to vote no on the recall? Maybe most of these folks will swing to Cruz come forced re-election day.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. It is at 47% NO and 50% YES in this poll in the graph in the paper

with approx 5% margin of error...as the recall nears, the NO votes are gaining on the YES votes...that much can be attributed to local Dem efforts.

[Cheswick2.0]

27. keep up the good work, I wish I could help

If there is any way we can help let us know.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

36. You can contribute money ..every little bit helps

http://www.noonrecallyesonbustamante.com/default.asp

[NewYorkerfromMass]

14. When Cruz has 40%

I'll feel better. GO CALIFORNIA DEMS!

[Frances]

18. I'm living in California

and I'll vote

No on Recall and Yes on Bustamante

However, I wish I could also vote

Yes to Recall Bush

[cally]

16. Even better news, support for recall is only 50%

I think Davis will survive. Clinton comes on Sunday, Kerry next week, and most of the other Dem Presidential candidates are planning to come. I also expect Gore and Hillary to come out and campaign for Davis.

If only Senator Kennedy would come out and campaign. Sigh.

[jos]

17. What's the no percentage?

:dem:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. 47% that is UP!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. Yes it is good news....we've closed the gap quite a bit

[onehandle]

22. McClintock needs to hold on...

Save California from the Gropinator, not to mention Rove.

[Frances]

23. This quote from the article says what I've been thinking

"I think Tom realizes even if he loses, he could become the rising star of the party by standing on principle," he said. "I don't see what he gains by pulling out of the race."

[rocktivity]

26. The only thing McClintock has to gain by pulling out

is going down in history as the man who didn't even try to go up against a total neophyte who didn't toe the party line. Of course, the ulterior motive could still be that Arnold pulls out and throws his support behind McClntock, or that Arnold names him as his deputy.


rocknation

[David__77]

25. Anti-recall momentum: we must work hard!

We can win against the recall. We ALL in CA need to link up with unions and local clubs to register people and get out the vote.

The interesting thing about McClintock versus Schwarzenegger is that I think that if McClintock were to drop out it would be to the short-term and long-term detriment to the GOP. Either way, we need to be prepared to defeat the recall, support the lt. governor, and protect the people's interests.

[Starpass]

28. Saw that 50-50 figure today on CNN ticker

I just caught the bare tail of it and said "wait a minute, are they saying this thing is now split right down the middle??" Thanks for posting, it cleared it up. Indeed, this thing is now a toss up. We can bring some big guns in BUT what are they going to do?? Are they going to bring in Bush and those dogs---nope because Bush sits there and claims to be a total virgin in this thing and that he and Rove had absolutely nothing to do with it. The force is on our side for the next few months. I wish Arianna would butt out.

[okieinpain]

29. I thought cali was a democrat stronghold. why is the precentage

leaning in the repugs favor. if you total the three, there is still 27% unaccounted for. so is that number spilt up between the remaining repugs, or are they undecided.

[Democat]

30. A lot of Democrats are probably voting for Arnold

Celebrity before party.

[Piperay]

31. It is over whelmingly Democratic but

a lot of Democrats just don't like Davis (have to admit that I don't like him myself but I am still voting NO on the recall). Also there are areas here and there spread through out the state that are repuke strongholds.

[kentuck]

32. I thought Arnold was going to get Ueberroth's votes ??

That is what all the media was saying...They were calling for McClintock to get out of the race. It now appears that McClintock profited most from Ueberroth's dropout...

[PROGRESSIVE1]

34. Maybe Arnie the Groper will have to drop out......

since McClintock can actually appeal to the voters with a serious and clearly conservative message!!!

[leesa]

33. Republicans are SOOoooooo stupid

Why do they keep voting for people without any experience or ability to think? Arnold has 0 qualifications for the office but 25% of the people are voting for him??? Isn't this how we got into the bush mis-(p)residency?

[rustydad]

35. If

If either repuke, McClintock or Arnold, drops out then I think the voters will see the likelyhood of Cruz loosing and so will vote NO on the recall. Californians are highly unlikely to willingly vote in any repug for Governer. Bob

[David__77]

37. Alternatively...

If it seems that Cruz may indeed win the race, many GOPers may vote no on the recall because they've become convinced that Gray is better than Cruz. Interesting dynamics could be at work on 10/7.