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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:07 PM
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Strategic challenge in America's long war Gen. John Abizaid
By David Ignatius
The Washington Post

Gen. John Abizaid commands probably the most potent military force in history. The troops of his Central Command are arrayed across the jagged crescent of the Middle East, from Egypt to Pakistan, in an overwhelming projection of U.S. power. He travels with his own mini-government: a top State Department officer to manage diplomacy, a senior CIA officer to oversee intelligence, a retinue of generals and admirals to supervise operations and logistics. If there is a modern Imperium Americanum, Abizaid is its field general.
I traveled last month with Abizaid as he visited Iraq and other areas of his command. Over several days, I heard him talk about his strategy for what he calls the ``Long War'' to contain Islamic extremism in Centcom's turbulent theater of operations. We talked about the current front in Iraq, and the longer-term process of change in the Islamic world that Abizaid views as the ultimate strategic challenge.

``We control the air, the sea and the ground militarily,'' Abizaid told one audience, and in conventional terms, he's unquestionably right.

From its headquarters near the huge new U.S. airbase in Qatar, Centcom's military reach stretches in every direction: To the west, the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet has its base in Bahrain; to the north, the aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman and its task force are patrolling the Persian Gulf; to the east, about 7,000 troops are working to stabilize postwar Afghanistan; to the south, about 1,000 troops are keeping a lid on the Horn of Africa. And to the northwest lies the bloody battlefield of Iraq, where nearly 150,000 of Abizaid's soldiers are fighting a determined insurgency.

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The costs of war came home for America in recent weeks. On Dec. 20, President Bush conceded the Iraq insurgents ``are having an effect,'' and that U.S. efforts to train Iraqi security forces have had only ``mixed'' success. The next day, a suicide bomber savaged a mess hall in Mosul in the deadliest single attack since the war began 21 months ago. The day after that, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tried to fend off calls for his resignation because of setbacks in Iraq.

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Abizaid offers the best answers to these questions I've heard from any U.S. government official. In addition to being the military's top commander in the Middle East, he has an intellectual and emotional feel for the region. He's of Arab ancestry - his forebears came to the United States from Lebanon in the 1870s - and he learned Arabic during a stint in Jordan 25 years ago. He's a well-read man who analyzes contemporary issues against the background of history.
Abizaid believes the Long War is in only its early stages. Victory will be hard to measure, he says, because the enemy won't wave a white flag and surrender one day. Success will instead be an incremental modernization of the Islamic world, which will gradually find its own accommodation with the global economy and open political systems.

America's enemies in this Long War, he argues, are what he calls ``Salafist jihadists'' - Muslim fundamentalists who use violence to try to re-create what they imagine was the pure and perfect Islamic government of the era of the prophet Muhammad (sometimes called the ``Salaf'').

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``It won't ever be over completely, where you wake up one morning and the enemy has surrendered,'' says Abizaid. ``But one day you'll wake up and there will be more food, more security, more stability.''


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http://www.registerguard.com/news/2005/01/02/c1.ed.col.abizaid.0102.html
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:42 PM
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1. I think he's so deeply involved or commited to this
"war" that he's not capable of stepping back and taking a balanced realistic view of what's actually happening in Iraq.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:43 PM
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2. Sounds Like Bullshit to Me
Abizaid is speaking the party line that we are bringing "food ... security ... stability" to the Middle East. That's not what the invasion is about. However, it is significant that he's talking about a "Long War". Didn't Bush say we'd be there as long as it takes and not a day longer?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:55 PM
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3. me too
the WP is hyping this same old shit as something new, and the fawning over Abizaid is embarrassing.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:30 PM
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10. about as much substance as a Bush Press Conf...with a bit more honesty
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:57 PM
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4. Abizaid is stalled. We seemed to not want to admit that but we have an
undetermined amount of insurgents tying up our forces and bleeding them slowly as only an insurgency can. If this was WWII I wonder how long Abizaid would have been in command after making no progress forward for so long.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:22 PM
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5. Not very long, I think.
These "leaders" are more like the "perfumed fools" of an autocrat's court, than the hard-edged (when needed) winning commanders of any truly well led army.

But these kinds of "wars" (like Iraq) are also "political" and "cultural" in nature and few enough military men can rise to that challenge.

Mac did a generally good job in post-war Japan, although he did implement certain questionable policies. Of course, he faced no insurgency as such, and the Emperor's cooperation was vital. Still, Mac showed a cultural appreciation that speaks well of him... and of us.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:26 PM
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6. Abizaid is an asshole.
Period.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:33 PM
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7. problem is
our army is hamstrung by the "central control" of a second generation army...we have an army with a philosophy that is older than ww2! that makes our chances of "defeating" insurgents precisely 0...(read Bill Lind's and John Boyd's (RIP) pieces of literature on fourth generation warfare and the definition of "generations" of warfare will be a bit clearer)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:41 PM
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8. Interesting
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 04:57 PM by seemslikeadream
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:03 PM
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9. heh, sorry
didn't mean to leave the links out of there...
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:06 PM
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11. control
and where is the money coming from to do all these wonderful things-
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:19 PM
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12. The author and Abizaid don't have a clue
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 06:44 PM by teryang
We are losing.

As far as the revolutions of 1848 are concerned he is on the side of the aristocratic reactionaries who feared the loss of their pampered and privileged social positions. Those would be the non-longer competitive elites of American corporatism who now have to take resources and markets by force (colonialism replaces "free trade"). The reactionary leaders of restoration unleashed the forces which ultimately led to WWI and WWII.

This is not the most powerful American military ever fielded in relative terms. In fact, opposition by any major Asian power will result in military catastrophe. This is why the pre-emptive nuclear doctrine was adopted, to prevent military "surprises" like the sudden reversals on the battlefield which could easily be inflicted on us at this point. American forces are overstretched and overcommited to an elective war which is without strategic significance except insofar as it weakens us and creates the very problems it purportedly is fighting against.

The main purpose of the so called "war on terror" is to provide a cover to perpetuate the capital intensive (cold war) Defense contracting and oil sectors which are in danger of losing their respective material bases. Another purpose is to create a police state to stave off the inevitable social unrest which will arise due to our steadily declining standard of living.

Our defense organization is ineffective, inefficient, and suffers from a severe manpower imbalance given the enormous resources wasted on it.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:25 PM
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17. once again teryang, thank you for your insightful posts...
I think... :scared:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 07:51 PM
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13. David Ignatius' phrase "jagged crescent" is a piece of art. n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:11 PM
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14. long on fantasy, short on facts
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 08:12 PM by bpilgrim
i guess that is to be expected coming from any active duty general but sheesh... you need to trip'n for this article to make any got damn sense :crazy:

peace
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:15 PM
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15. "Victory will be hard to measure"
Because it is too politically profitable to have sustained conflict?

:)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:23 PM
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16. General... General....let's talk about the Abu Ghraib scandal cover up!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:49 PM
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18. ABIZAID IS A "WAR CRIMINAL"
He has helped Kill 100,000 Human Beings-- EXTERMINATED THEM--- !!!
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