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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:06 AM
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Bush 2 off to shaky start - 'Worst I've seen it' - official
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/267680p-229158c.html

Honeymoon? What honeymoon?
The victory lap is long over for President Bush, tripped up by a series of gaffes since Election Day that were either self-inflicted or made by his own allies, both aides and critics said.

"It's been sloppy. ...People are off message," conceded a senior administration official, who said Team Bush's trademark discipline had crumbled since winning a second term.

"It's the worst I've ever seen it," the official conceded.

In the view of former GOP strategist Marshall Wittman, now a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council, "The honeymoon blew over quicker than a Texas thunderstorm on a hot July day."

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:09 AM
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1. More like a Victory Nap, wannit?
:evilgrin:
dbt

PS: bu$h is a Lame Dick. Pass it on!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:10 AM
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:16 AM
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5. Interesting your blog is part of The Republican Ring
I smell pizza cooking :evilgrin:
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:20 AM
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7. Way ahead of you..
.. I've already picked out the rock for a tombstone :evilgrin:
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:20 AM
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6. Pizza for breakfast?
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:23 AM
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9. Breakfast, Lunch anytime is good time for
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:26 AM
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10. It was nice knowing you.
"We now have 55 republicans in the senate, short of the 60 needed to stop any fillibuster by the Democrats. We were almost there. Oh well."

Oh well, indeed!


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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:26 AM
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16. Faux news last night....
Actually had a story about Republicans who are unhappy with Bush, they are screwing with his 'mandate' BUUHHHAAAAAA! Whiners!
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:42 PM
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52. Dang!!! I can't help feeling like
a kid getting my eyes covered during the "good parts" of a movie. I wish there was an option to see what the daisy pusher said, maybe with a couple "Are you REALLY REALY sure you want to read this?" prompts. Oh well. Probably better for my blood pressure not to read it.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:11 AM
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3. 1st term
He got off to a shaky start on his first term before 9/11 saved him. maybe he learned his lesson?
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:14 AM
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4. Don't worry, the Press Whores will save him
They always do.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:26 AM
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11. ...with fluffy pillows of feathers. We can only hope for a big stiff
delicious salty pretzel and a ten foot high sofa.....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:21 AM
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8. Bush doesn't give a shit anymore
and this will be his undoing.

He will never again run for public office and he knows it. He doesn't have to pretend anymore. He is now free to be himself. I can't wait till the fundies realize that Bush is indeed the anti-christ that they have been praying for.

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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:14 AM
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12. Not the Anti-Christ, a fundamentalist
But the evangelicals are ignorant to this and think he is on their side. Here is a link,it is a long read but well worth it. I think it puts a lot of things into perspective and explains the class warfare they have been inflicting on this country and the world. Mostly the slack ass looser attitude that they have toward the tsunami is explained in this article.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:08 PM
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34. Is there a group more stupid and gullible than the fundies?
I mean, really. Bush gets elected by selling them an anti-gay and anti-abortion agenda, and what is the first order of business for BushCo? Why dismanteling social security, of course!

Talk about a bunch of tools. I'm sure they'll get some crumbs from the emporer Bush's table, but not the initatives that they were hoping for. It will be mostly rhetoric and bluster.



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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:21 PM
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32. Plus he has no Veep to worry about...
Cheney has no political future, nor does any member of Bush's Administration (Powell says he's out of politics for good, and I believe him). They have twenty-two months until the mid-term election, and they can wreak a lot of havoc in the meantime.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:17 AM
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13. This headline is code for "Bush boozing hard again"
Bank on it.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:20 AM
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23. yep.
I believe it. Just look at the lush!
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:19 AM
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14. proves ONE thing about the DLC......
In the view of former GOP strategist Marshall Wittman, now a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council, "The honeymoon blew over quicker than a Texas thunderstorm on a hot July day."

:eyes:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:17 AM
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26. Well, most of us have known that he's the sort of
"leader" that makes up the DLC.Their mission is to destroy the Democratic party from within-and it's working.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:22 AM
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15. "The Kerik appointment was the worst of all"
Should we keep floggin' this not-so-dead horse, perhaps?

After all, the Kerik affair was such a treasure trove of embarassments: corruption, featherbedding, sex scandals, backstabbing. Shouldn't we dole out little Kerik updates every week or so just to keep this one on the back burner?

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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:29 AM
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17. Guaranteed
More FOIBLES to follow.....yuk, yuk, yuk.:bounce:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:32 AM
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18. I suspect that a certain former GOP strategist is throwing the DLC
a big meaty bone, and that's ALL this is about. :eyes:
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:43 AM
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19. This Lawrence Korb piece has me worried
Korb was Asst. Sec. of Defense under Reagan. He has been questioning Bush reasoning (oxymoron) since day one. In this piece, he looks to the U.S.'s nuclear security program and outlines the Bush administration's failure to follow through on its professions of concern for US nuclear safety.

I'm saving this piece for future reference should the US be attacked during the Bush administration's regime, again.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0102-01.htm
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:52 AM
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20. Gear Up Folks! We are gonna Kick His Ass on Social Security!
I'm itching for this fight. If you thought the Clinton health plan defeat was a humiliation for the then POTUS, wait 'till we get done with this slimy, rotten, sleazy bastard when he tries to undo the most popular, successful government program in the history of the world.

We are gonna nail Bush's ass to the freaking wall!

:mad: :bounce: :nuke:

Hey Freepers! Hope your listening. Bring it on!

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:10 AM
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25. Call me jaded
but I've never seen DU claims to be ready to kick Bush's ass on anything turn out to be true, in fact whenever we're ready to celebrate before the proverbial check is in hand, we get our collective asses stomped up and down the road.

I'm jus sayin :-)
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:29 AM
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27. I know what you mean. But this is different.
All the other times, I've felt like you do now. Just a lot of blowin' smoke. But this is different.

This time his empire is beginning to crumble. He's pledged to go after SS, and has no idea what he's up against in terms of resistance. He's already--yesterday--jettisoned tax reform because he knows it's undoable.

He's a lame duck. He's a jerk.

And the biggest thing is that Iraq is now going to finally bite him in the ass. His very last ploy is coming up. It will come and go with a lot of hoopla. But within 3 weeks, it will be obvious to all that nothing has changed.

That is the point at which we must attack. We must launch an OUT NOW campaign. I believe we can bring him down. If not into resignation, we can at least reduce him to rubble.

Ah feels it in mah blood!
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:37 PM
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35. That and his obscene plan to punish the blue states with his tax plan.
No new taxes, if you are rich. No NEW taxes if you are working class, we will just take away a few of your deductions. Only the BIG ones.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:52 PM
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36. Good point.
That's a loser for him, too. IF WE CAN STICK TOGETHER!

:grouphug:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:33 PM
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48. big mistake
in fact, my reaction to this article was bullshit, Bush and his corporate thugs have not let their guard down, they're going to fight to the death over Social Security.

Even when I read about some republicans supposedly opposed to SS privitization, I suspect it as an attempt to lull opponents into a false sense of security. They want this bad, and they know they have a prime opportunity right now.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:31 AM
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54. Bush doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of privatizing it.
He thinks he's immune to the power of the third rail because he hasn't been grounded like most other presidents in the muck of reality. But things are going to change very soon. His world is going to begin collapsing once the voting in Iraq is over. He will be in the low 40s of approval by year's end. There's no way he will get SS privatization through, I don't care how much they are salivating.

Of course, this assertion assumes we will do our job and contribute like crazy to the 527s that will lead the ad campaigns against whatever they put out there. I am fully confident we will do that.

The most serious mistake a Democrat can make now is NOT BELIEVING we can raise the money to do the job. That was Kerry's tragic failure when he refused to answer the $75 million opening barrage against him last April/May because he "wasn't sure we could raise the money."
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:04 AM
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21. The honeymoon is for a reelected president
Not for a sleazebag who's being called president because his gang stole the presidency twice.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:08 AM
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24. Exactly. Most of us didn't want him. Why should he get a
"honeymoon." A bus ticket out of town would be more appropriate.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:05 PM
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37. Might I suggest that instead of a bus ticket he be provided with ....
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 02:05 PM by reprobate
....a utility pole for transportation and insulation supplied by asphalt and down?

We must be sure he's warm in the winter, right?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:37 PM
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39. LOL! I'll bring the feathers.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:04 AM
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22. It's Not Off Message, but the Message is Off
Off base, off color, and out of his mind.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:38 AM
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28. mandate? what mandate.
Not only are they off to a bad start but as public polls indicate Bush can't get away with this "mandate" stuff he says he got. Not when the country was almost evenly divided again--50-48.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:08 PM
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41. The "mandate" is as phony as he is.
His "people" knew he "needed" one, so they built in enough votes all around in the "safe" states so that either way, he would be perceived as "legitimate". I think some were afraid that he would actually lose the electoral, but with 3M popular votes, they could have safely taken it to the supremes again, or done their own Ukranian style voter revolt to get him reinstalled.

The kamikaze last minute romps through CA, NJ.PA and NY in the few days before the election provided the "cover" for the extra vapor-votes they planned to provide.

The "safe" states of Texas & Florida made up the difference so that the extra in some small states would not look suspicious.

110K vapor votes x 31 tates "won = 3.41 million vote "mandate".
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:42 AM
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29. Buck up, Bush aides and officials...That's why a majority of Americans...
...didn't vote for him in either election.

But you wanted him and you got him...you broke it now you own it!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:45 AM
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30. Deep down, everyone knows, bush was the pickpocket in the voting booth
Everyone is now looking to bush to clean up his mess. That's the reason why probably 20 percent of those who voted for him did so. But Little Boots has never so much as cleaned the dirt off his shoes, much less a mess of the grand scale he's created since he first began squatting in the Oval Office.

"The upside is his track record from the last four years. He's constantly counted out, and he constantly ends up winning," said Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.). "He's a guy who has basically set his own course and writes his own rules."

Is this the King that wrote his own election rules, too?

And as far as bush's track record is concerned ... naw, that would take me too long to pick apart, but for now let me just say asleep at the wheel on September 11, 2001, failure to capture Osama bin Laden, and then of course we had the debacle of the War on Iraq, et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:57 AM
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31. can we impeach him now? (nt)
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:43 PM
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33. 2005 = 2001?
I feel like I did 4 years ago at this time. Let's hope the Bush Administration doesn't orchestrate another 9/11 to get our attention again...because right now they seem awefully irrelevant.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 PM
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38. That's what I'm afraid of also.
To cover up incompetence and banality and to further the ugly family name, to clear a path for jebbie, we're going to be smacked again. That in and of itself should be a no brainer, you can't treat the rest of the world like these fuckoffs have and not expect to get away with it. keep your eyes wide open and don't gloat yet, i don't trust these asswipes any further than I could throw one.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:55 PM
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44. The 49% Deserve What They Get
Sorry that another potentially "orchestrated" attack will likely affect one of the blue states, but any attack on our country really won't have the impact it did for me in '01. I really have so little respect for our country and it's leaders, that they can figure out their own mess next time around.

I'll be glad if my money is in cash when the next disaster occurs though, so I'll be prepared for the resulting recession.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:38 PM
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50. Euro cash, I hope. Or gold.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:55 PM
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The 49% Deserve What They Get
Sorry that another potentially "orchestrated" attack will likely affect one of the blue states, but any attack on our country really won't have the impact it did for me in '01. I really have so little respect for our country and it's leaders, that they can figure out their own mess next time around.

I'll be glad if my money is in cash when the next disaster occurs though, so I'll be prepared for the resulting recession.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:55 PM
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45. The 49% Deserve What They Get
Sorry that another potentially "orchestrated" attack will likely affect one of the blue states, but any attack on our country really won't have the impact it did for me in '01. I really have so little respect for our country and it's leaders, that they can figure out their own mess next time around.

I'll be glad if my money is in cash when the next disaster occurs though, so I'll be prepared for the resulting recession.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:55 PM
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46. The 49% Deserve What They Get
Sorry that another potentially "orchestrated" attack will likely affect one of the blue states, but any attack on our country really won't have the impact it did for me in '01. I really have so little respect for our country and it's leaders, that they can figure out their own mess next time around.

I'll be glad if my money is in cash when the next disaster occurs though, so I'll be prepared for the resulting recession.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:55 PM
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47. The 49% Deserve What They Get
Sorry that another potentially "orchestrated" attack will likely affect one of the blue states, but any attack on our country really won't have the impact it did for me in '01. I really have so little respect for our country and it's leaders, that they can figure out their own mess next time around.

I'll be glad if my money is in cash when the next disaster occurs though, so I'll be prepared for the resulting recession.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:04 PM
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40. lol
In the view of former GOP strategist Marshall Wittman, now a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:46 PM
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42. Funny isn't it?
Oh the irony.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:47 PM
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43. The whole point of the first term was getting reelected.
They didn't care about anything else. Now they really don't give a shit.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:14 PM
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49. "The honeymoon blew over quicker than a Texas thunderstorm on a hot
July day."

Yeah, about 3 years and 11-1/2 months ago.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:38 PM
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51. It took FOUR FREAKIN YEARS to figure that out???
I thought he was off to a shaky start before he was selected!!!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:46 PM
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53. 4 years propping him up with feel good stories. Now 4 years tearing him
down with "the wind has changed" stories.

Meanwhile, the people will have had 8 years of pure hell.

Bush always was a fuck-up.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:38 AM
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55. But will Dems take the lead?
Noooooo....
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