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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:15 AM
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Wild horse patrons to appeal to public
the public's interests sure have changed since 1971 ...but then we already knew that ...Viet Nam ---- Iraq ....

---Wild horse advocates from throughout the country said Monday they intend to appeal to the American public to help reverse a new federal law allowing many of the animals to be sold at auction, after which they could be taken to slaughterhouses.

In concluding an emergency two-day conference in Carson City, representatives of some of the nation’s leading wild horse and burro protection groups said they also are looking into ways to legally challenge an amendment to the 1971 Wild Free Roaming Horse and Burro Act. The amendment, or rider, was approved over Thanksgiving weekend as part of the federal spending bill and signed into law by President Bush last month.

“All the organizations here are dedicated to stopping the slaughter of thousands of wild horses,’’ said Karen Sussman of Lantry, S.D., president of the International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros.

http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/01/03/88983.php?sps=rgj.com&sch=LocalNews&sp1=rgj&sp2=News&sp3=Local+News&sp5=RGJ.com&sp6=news&sp7=local_news
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:24 AM
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1. According to the Bush Doctrine
if they are not usable for profit-making, kill them. Four more years of Hell for all God's creatures under Bush.
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Southern Dem 2005 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:05 PM
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14. Eat more Chikin!
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:25 AM
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2. A new federal law...
and I noticed the ones behind it are REPUBLICANS...when will it end...???? I can't take another four years of this. Leave the wild horses alone you a**holes!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:49 AM
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3. The horses are only the tip of the iceberg
when it comes to Bush's complete disregard of our role of stewardship of living things. He has dismantled protections one at a time of life entrusted to our care. He will not consider removal of dams for fish and he has turned over the wolf protection role to the farmers and ranchers.

His heart-breaking policies on protection of our water, air, and forests are even more dismal. Yes, it will be a long 4 years of hell.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:40 PM
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11. But they have a very high regard for
fetuses.

Not for anything else, mind you. Just fetuses. not already-born children, not the mothers or fathers or the air the already-borns must breathe or the water they must drink.

No matter what else the boooooshies destroy, you can always count on them to be there protecting the unborn.

:puke:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:59 AM
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4. don't buy beef from wild horse states
The cattle ranching interests are pushing this. Let's see if we can bankrupt 'em. One bad turn deserves another.

Argentina wants to sell grass-fed beef freely in the United States. Maybe it's time they got their chance.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:16 AM
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5. chimp hates horses
he's scared of them :scared: so like any little gutless wimp what he is scared of or doesn't understand he wants to destroy. :mad:
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:40 AM
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6. This will be Conrad Burns' undoing....
He's a stupid, senile, old racist. But fuck.... out of state friends complain to ME because of Burns' horse slaughter rider....
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:20 AM
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7. 2 of the 3 horse slaughterhouses are in Texas.
Practical Horseman magazine had a disturbing article about horse slaughter. Don't sell your equine at auction: it could end up being clubbed over the head, hung up by its back legs, drained of blood, carved up and sold to European horse meat eaters. Bush friends in TX benefit from horse killing. So wrong.

I own a horse. I would have her humanely put down before EVER allowing this fate to befall her. I have a friend who owns a mustang. They keep it with their other horses. It is a wonderful big pet and companion to their riding horses.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:52 PM
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8. There is also a huge market for horse meat
in Japan.

As I recall, all the slaughterhouses have foreign ownership (or at least the biggest one; Belgian I believe). And it's not just mustangs who end up there...a couple of great racehorses, Exceller (who beat Triple Crown winners Seattle Slew and Affirmed) and Ferdinand (86 Kentucky Derby winner) ended up there after failed stud careers (abroad). NO horse should ever end up there.

Horrible, just horrible. I am also ashamed that my own province has a number of slaughterhouses that deal with horses. :-(
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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self-delete
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM by antigone382
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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sorry!
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:54 PM by antigone382
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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so
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:53 PM by antigone382
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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damned
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:52 PM by antigone382
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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GOOD.
This is exactly what we need: to take this cause back to the public, where it belongs. I highly doubt that most people know about Burns's rider, and when the public finds out it IS going to be a big deal (though I imagine FUX viewers will never know...).

I grew up reading about Wild Horse Annie and her fight to save the mustangs, and a lot of other little girls (and boys) did too. I guarantee that they're not about to cave to corporate agriculture.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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9. dial-up
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:52 PM by antigone382
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:30 PM
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10. I love the wild horses and burros. Anyone near Ridgecrest, CA should
go to the BLM's preserve where you can go up to the fence and interact with the animals. Bring carrots for them, they love them.

I want to adopt some in the future but the requirements are very strict and I don't have time to gentle them right now.
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:30 PM
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12. So now it's the wild horses/burros being axed
As an equestrian and horse owner/horse lover, this is the last straw. I have friends who have adopted these animals very successfully, as well as those who have adopted the Premarin animals when that industry went bellyup last year.
This is no way for a horse/burro to end their lives. It's sickening to see the trucks waiting at racetracks to haul off the losers and has-beens. It's only been in the past few years that laws were enacted so that these doomed creatures would at least be trailered humanely--they used to cram as many as they could into a truck, where a large number died enroute from being trampled, or limped off the truck with broken legs (they loaded mares, babies, stallions, all on together).
The only horse slaughterhouses left in the U.S. are in IL and (where else?)TX. There was recently proposed legislation that would have banned the export of horsemeat from the U.S. to other countries. I'm guessing that from the legislation just passed allowing slaughter, that the bill went down in defeat.
Again, explain to me, who the moral party is?
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:37 PM
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13. Oh, and one other thing
Posted that last one too fast!
I also made sure to forward this article to all of my horsey friends, the vast majority, who are regrettably Republican. This should hit them right in the heartstrings.
I also have some friends who adopted burros, and also a whole herd of Nubian goats. Apparently they were running wild on an army artillery range, and the army was using them for target practice (and to test how various munitions affect flesh).
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:17 PM
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15. I have the facilities to adopt some but I don't have the time to work with
them. If someone would come to my place and work with them everyday I could do it. As it is now I don't spend the time I should with my other 3 horses.

The BLM brands numbers on the wild horses and my wife and I picked out a couple of them that we liked and took there pictures just in case they are still there if and when we do adopt them.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:21 PM
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16. The premarin mares and foals, now there's a tragedy.
I remember reading about that a few years ago.

To DUers who don't know, the estrogen replacement hormone Premarin is actually a contraction of pregnant mare urine, which is what it's made out of. The article I read told how the mares who produced it were kept constantly pregnant, which as any woman can imagine, is enormously taxing physically, even moreso since the mares were forced to remain in cramped stalls all the time. Their foals were sold to slaughter virtually the moment they were born. Naturally, this is emotionally devestating to the mares, and downright cruel to the foals...and all for a product that A. could be produced synthetically, and B. is linked to cancer and other health problems anyway.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:34 PM
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17. What happened to our covenant with horses
to be their stewards since they are also descendents of war veterans?
This sickens me.
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