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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:39 PM
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Some in House Look to Roll Back Bush Plans (Drug Benefits/NCLB)
WASHINGTON -- Some conservative Republicans in the House want to roll back much of the new Medicare drug benefit and the "No Child Left Behind" education law that President Bush made domestic hallmarks of his first term, a GOP lawmaker said Wednesday.

While praising Bush's leadership on fighting terrorism and passing tax cuts, Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana said it was important for Republicans to reassert conservative values that led them to control of Congress.

"The fate of the Republican majority ... will be largely determined by whether or not we rediscover those principles of limited government that more than anything else propelled us to majority status," said Pence, chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of more than 100 conservative House members.

Pence told National Press Club members at a breakfast briefing that his stated goal of undoing certain accomplishments of the first Bush term "makes me the skunk at the garden party."

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-undoing-bushs-agenda,0,6566717.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:41 PM
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1. so not only do dems
get cojones finally, but so do the REAL republicans - the good old conservatives and moderates who are scared s*****ss by the corporate christians, neocons and regressives!

BRAVO!
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:41 PM
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2. Wake me
when they want to roll back his tax cuts for the rich.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:42 PM
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3. "Faster, Repuggy-cats! Kill! Kill!"
More infighting!
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:46 PM
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4. Neither program is what it's made up to be.
No child left behind is underfunded and the drug benefit is not really a drug benefit to consumers so what's all the shouting about.

The real budget breaker is the war. When the repubs stand up for equal limited government handouts for everyone I'll be happy.

When repubs say limited government they mean limited money for the masses and more government money for the wealthy.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:29 PM
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6. thank you
I still don't know what it is that I supposedly 'got' with the Medicare 'reform' ... only that I can 'opt'to send 'some company' some money to send me 'a card' to take to a pharmacy which already discounts a little bit based on having a Medicare card (that's really all they needed to do in the first place ... there's no need for any corporate go-betweens/middlemen; nor the expense of having to revise all the Medicare literature $$$) ... so, I don't know what they hope to 'roll back' ...

you're absolutely right

plus, we can count on Big Pharma to raise the prices to offset any 10% discount
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:42 PM
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8. Some raised prices up to 30% BEFORE the "card scam"
then failed to fund the initial roll-out (except for the cash upfront to the HMOs & drug companies for "study")...

of course we all know that the NCLB was just a boondoggle for the "testing companies" (a Bush brother and Bennett,the gambler are up to their eyeballs in THAT scam)..The schools and the actual children were all left behind on the funding..

The only way to have helped the seniors would have been to give them a reasonable co-pay and just incorporate it into SS, but then we all know the plans he has for SS :grr:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:24 PM
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10. The drug benefit card only created another middleman.
It created another republican business that has a need and purpose because some repubs wrote a law to make it so.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:39 PM
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20. Yes, reminds of someone who worked with me on a book program
for families in poverty. He lived in an affluent retirement area like I do. We worked up different scenarios for funding an ongoing program. In his proposal, he formed a business that got a contract to ID kids at school who were from poor families or illiterate families and got a contract from the county to supply books for the kids. Then, he contacted a friend of his who sold remaindered children's books to supply whatever books he had available.

Mine was structured on forming a "children's reading advisory team" of adults in the community to identify books and reading programs that had good, solid credentials and find out what it would cost to make these available through the different schools and children's programs. When we found that out, then we would develop a presentation and go to businesses, service organizations and community groups to ask for sponsorship of this program.

His program goal was how he could make money off it. Mine was getting the right reading material in the hands of kids and building wide-based community support for the program. Oh, of course our team was unpaid while with his scenario he was paying himself a salary from the contract whether or not the books were provided.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:51 PM
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5. cut funding, cut services
Keep the mandates, keep the corporate give-aways. Then use these two programs as examples of yet another government failure and reason to not have universal health care and to promote vouchers.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 08:36 PM
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18. Readers bitched out the Dallas Morning News this past week...
Cuz the paper endorsed repukes at the nat'l and state level and then just recently had an article complaining about state programs being cut, decreased local funding, and mean spirited legislation is being proposed. The original article was titled "Are Texans mean?".
Basically, the LTTE were "try endorsing the party that actually tries to HELP the people that the Repubs are hurting" and "you endorsed the ones who are doing this and now you are shocked?"

What can you expect from a newspaper that named Rove as "Texan of the Year". Idiots.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:31 PM
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7. Talk's cheap - start standing up and voting "no" and we'll pay attention
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 06:32 PM by hatrack
'Til such time, I'm leaning seriously to not giving a fuck.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:47 PM
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9. Stay Outraged
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:26 PM
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11. Agreed!
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 12:37 AM
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12. kick for Khephra
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:20 AM
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13. kick
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koneko Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:21 AM
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14. Kick!
:kick:
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:02 AM
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15. kick for Khephra
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 01:41 PM
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16. kick
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 01:50 PM
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17. What more than anything else propelled them to majority status
was their demagoguery and lies, NOT their policies.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:28 PM
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19. That's got to be the stupidest reason to do anything.
Why don't they just hold a press conference a beat there chest and do a tarzan yell,instead of slashing all programs for the non-uber rich.
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:45 PM
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21. I suspect some know that the election was overwhelmingly in favor
of Kerry and so they want to try to project a more responsible image of the party than the traitorous bankruptors have done so far.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:25 PM
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22. kick
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:36 AM
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23. taking the so-called unfunded compassion out of Bush conservatism
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:00 PM
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24. For Kheph
:cry:
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