Psychic security department protects Russian presidents from external psyc

[lovuian]

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/362/14790_psychic.html

Psychic security department protects Russian presidents from external psychological influence
01/06/2005 17:13
Americans have created radiators of modulated signals, which control people's behavior thousands of kilometers from afar

Yuri Malin, a former KGB officer, says that there was a special department in the structure of Russian secret services to protect top officials from malicious intentions of scientists and extrasensory individuals, who could create devices that were capable of affecting human psychology. Yuri Malin worked as a consultant of Boris Yeltsin's Federal Security Service.

"Special services do not take much care of President Putin nowadays. There are no professionals in his team to help him struggle with the external psychophysical influence. There were such people in Boris Yeltsin's team, though. There was a special department, which was dealing with unconventional technologies to manipulate the human mind," Malin says.

"The department was formed when someone found an eavesdropping device in the house of the Russian government. It was actually not a microphone, but a directional antenna. Specialists concluded that the antenna had been installed in the office to exert a psychological influence on the president.

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Maybe this is whats going on with the Christian Right!!!

[BeHereNow]

1. Yeah, that must be it!

Satan is directing mind control frequencies
at Bush and the Fundie followers...
Clearly, that is the explanation.
I want to suggest that we add a Psychic Security
division to our Homeland Insecurity department!
ROLF!
BHN

[lovuian]

3. I would like to know what these radiators are???

I'd like to use them on my kiddos

Clean your rooms!!! :bounce:

[punpirate]

2. For some more information...

... on the fakery of Russian psychics, read a bit from the Amazing Randi on the subject:

http://psych.mcmaster.ca/3p3/randisup.html

Cheers.

[autorank]

4. Alert!

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

You laugh but this stuff really works (if you use Reynolds high end).

We call it old school

[Lone_Star_Dem]

5. Now I know what's been wrong with me!

I bought the cheap store brand. :P

[autorank]

10. I covered this in my unpublished PhD dissertation: Perils of Walmart

You always buy brand names at a reputable store. Works every time.

Things will improve.

[NYC]

6. U.S. probably has the same people on payroll.

[sweetheart]

7. A few pshycics are better than the CIA

I'm sure with a few phychics, we could have prevented the 9/11, or at
least known in advance that bush was looking the other way whilst some
of his mates attacked the towers.

Frankly, any occultist with the power to manipulate a head of state,
would have better things to do with their energy than bother with
a tin pot dictator like putin or shrub. They'll both be gone short
enough through normal electoral process, and that is all that matters.

That said, if one of them gets close to starting a nuclear war, expect
the powerful ones to simply "break" their mind and apply pressure
that they go insane, much as hitler did in the end.

Sure, they can try buring themselves underground, with "water" sheilding
as it works better than lead with psychic phenomena... but there
becomes a point where all the politicians will be hoovering around
in submarines... and it all gets a bit silly. :-)

Any person doing justice in the world, need fear no enemy.

[Ian David]

8. Maybe we won the cold was because the Russians were even dumber than us?

Another year with a 0% score by the psychics.

Every psychic prediction for 2004 failed:

(in 2004), Osama bin Laden will die of kidney disease. Saddam Hussein will be
shot to death. Fidel Castro will die. A live dinosaur thousands of years old
will be captured. The Hoover Dam will collapse. And Rosie O'Donnell will adopt
Siamese twin girls.

That's what the world's best psychics predicted for 2004. And with the year
drawing to a close, the news is going to have to get pretty intense over the
next few days if those forecasts are going to come true, according to Gene
Emery, a contributor to Skeptical Inquirer magazine, who has been tracking
tabloid forecasts for 26 years.

Actually, the truly unusual predictions of major news events almost never come
true, and this year has been no exception, said Emery, who has been using the
predictions to search for a psychic -- any psychic -- who can really predict
the future.

Not only did the psychic forecasts fail to foretell what would happen in 2004,
the psychics continued their tradition of missing the major events that did
make the headlines.

For example, this year they missed Janet Jackson's Superbowl breast flash (which
caused one of the biggest stirs of 2004), the prison torture in Iraq (which most
Americans found so surprising and profoundly disturbing) and the World Series
win by the Boston Red Sox.

"But then, why should this year be any different?" said Emery. "Although the
psychics were always predicting things for Princess Diana, they completely
missed her death. The same was true for the Sept. 11 attacks. And the fact that
the psychics, who claim to be able find everything from missing bodies to your
missing car keys, have not helped us find Osama Bin Laden should tell you
something."

"Given their track record, it's amazing that a psychic can tell you when the 10
O'Clock News is going to come on," he joked.

More:
Includes the failures of Terry and Linda Jamison, Anthony Carr, and Martha
Henstridge.
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/predictions-2004.html

Now, I saw THAT coming!


See also:
Psychics fail in 1994
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1994.html

Psychics fail in 1995
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1995.html

Psychics fail in 1996
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1996.html

Psychics fail in 1997
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1997.html

Psychics fail in 1998
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1998.html

Psychics fail in 1999
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/1999.html

Psychics fail in 2000
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/2000.html

Psychics fail in 2001
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/2001.html

Psychics fail in 2002
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/2002.html

Psychics fail in 2003
http://www.csicop.org/articles/psychic-predictions/2003.html

Psychics fail in 2004
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/predictions-2004.html

[sweetheart]

9. How to employ a psychic.

Duuh! Of course, because they did not ask a psychic about the karmic
results of meddling in the affairs of beruit, in the 70's,80's. A
psychic could easily have prevented terribe ongoing wars and strife by
defusing the political bomb of hatred, weapons proliferation and greedy
self interests that are bound for a clash. Any psychic could have
advised the US not to meddle in the affairs of other nations, who's
people will, as a covenant with their god, extract vengence. When
masses of a population are filled with hatred and curses, bad things
seem to happen... any blooody psychic could have told you that.

If you threaten people with arms, with us or against us rhetoric, and
words of intervention and crusade, any psychic is aware of the kind of
buildup of karma that is happening. The dollar is the plug in the oil
pan, with it sinking, all the oil will run out, and the engine will
seize. Bush is unable to recognize the real effect the dollar collapse
will have on his ability to subsidize his rhetoric.

The reason is because you tried forensic psychics. Use proactive
psychic advisors and be much much wiser.

[Ian David]

11. I predict that a psychic will state something obvious and it will be true

The following message was channeled from the mind of Sweetheart:

Any psychic could have
advised the US not to meddle in the affairs of other nations, who's{sic}
people will, as a covenant with their god, extract vengence{sic}. When
masses of a population are filled with hatred and curses, bad things
seem to happen... any blooody{sic} psychic could have told you that.

To which, as I focus my thoughts and energies, I concentrate on sending the following reply:

Uhm, I suppose any psychic could have told us that.

Even Sylvia Browne could have known that, and she's not exactly the straightest spoon in Uri Geller's drawer.

And any psychic could have also told us, "Do not use a hairdryer in the shower, or bad things will happen."

They could have also told us, "Don't try to advertise a gay-friendly church on television, or the fundies will get mad."

Pretty much everyone-- psychic or not (and they're all not) could have told us "not to meddle in the affairs of other nations... bad things {will} happen..."

All the people in the whole wide world who did not know that bad things would happen can be counted on one hand: Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Bush.

Even Colin Powell knew it was a bad idea, and he didn't need to rely upon chicken entrails, tea leaves or a Rumpology reading by Sylvester Stallone's mom, Jacqueline, to tell him that.

If you want to impress me, show me any psychic who predicted the tsunami in advance, said that CNN could cancel crossfire, Senator Boxer would contest Ohio, or that Andrea Yates' conviction would be over-turned.

I can hardly imagine being less impressed by what I have seen so far.

See my previous post, #8
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1129033#1129514


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You cannot build an informed democracy out of people who will believe in little green men from Venus. Credulity — willingness to accept unsupported statements without demanding proof — is the greatest ally of the dictator and the demagogue.
-- Arthur C. Clarke, Voices from the Sky: A Preview of the Coming Space Age (1974) "The Lunatic Fringe"


Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G.K. Chesterton


If you keep your mind sufficiently open, people will throw a lot of rubbish into it.
-- William A. Orton, Everyman Amid the Stereotype


Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition.--
Isaac Asimov

[sweetheart]

13. Then perhaps it takes a psychic to state the bloody obvious

You're absolutely right, it is apriori, the knowledge of which i spoke.
Then why is it, that what claims to be a rational, at least more than
a spinal intelligence, the bloody obvious, is not discovered.

I guess, what i'm saying is that someone might be pscyhic and not a
flake either. I think your statements are based on a prejudicial view
about the nature of intution. Intuition is the sort of thing that works,
just not in the way you're trying to measure it.

When its working, you 'know' it. More than someone could ever speak
"knowing" rather the direct knowing.... if it is indeed knowledge
that we speak.

I have psychic seeings, that you call the bloody obvious. Perhaps you
don't understand the "code" of psychic advise. If there is one, and
obviously their is not, one, but the bloody obvious is part of it...
frankly, most if not all of it. Psychic, is knowing directly something
that people think you learn by experience.

It is inside, and only knowable. Someone will always come along with
a study, and the law of averages amongst an average of the earth's
population will just tell you more about the sad state of man than
any knowledge.

So indeed, the belief that psychic phenomena does not underly your
presentations, but so what. What if you're wrong, and your obstinance
in presenting those beliefs is itself religious prostletizing
by another name. Preaching the anti-psychic goespel. Most people
believe in god (USA), and perhaps they're right, but with the
wrong understanding... perhaps god is the bloody obvious. Perhaps
a psychic is someone who is sensitive and knows... not with the stock
market, but feeling and avoiding being in the building on 9/11
for example, is a form of psychic intelligence. If you look at all
those who "could" have been in those buildings during the attack,
you would find 100% premonition of not being there for whatever
happenstance.... the bloody obvious... but 100% per the sample of
not being taken by the wave, the ones who survive may have a reason
may not, but perhaps being psychic is a selected gene only in
political opposition. :-)

[Ian David]

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Go claim your money, and I'll tell you I was wrong.

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Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid. -- G.K. Chesterton




If you keep your mind sufficiently open, people will throw a lot of rubbish into it.
-- William A. Orton, Everyman Amid the Stereotype

[Ian David]

12. Corrected link: Psychics fail in 2000

The correct link for:

Psychics fail in 2000
http://www.csicop.org/list/listarchive/msg00139.html