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bin.dare (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:06 PM Original message |
The Moral Minority and the BBC --- (jesus admits "a bit gay") |
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AlbizuX (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. can anyon say.... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I expect unstable and psychotic reaction from -- |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. How is that opera anyways? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
52. It is due on the San Francisco stage in the spring |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Not all Christians are right wing |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. But I doubt the left wing ones would boycott |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. We might surprise you |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. I can guarantee the broadcast networks won't show it |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Do you recommend it as worth seeing? n/t |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
90. It's not a must see |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. "physical threats" "bloodshed" "christianity" n/t |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. That Just Makes Me Want To Vomit... And So Do The Defenders... |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why Do So Many Christians Act This Way? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Probably bible-head-whacking has something to do with it. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Threats are wrong, violence is wrong, protests are right |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So, if you know that publishing the personal info of these people |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. No, no, they published the info so that they could "save them from |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. The question is...how would you ever prove that? |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. So, they should be free from protest? |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Artistic freedom is a nice thing too |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. But not free from protest |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Apparently it is open to the opposite view |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. They can and should protest |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Nothing beats choice like choice with a gun to your head |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No gun to anyone's head |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. A Fatwa, which is what this is, is a gun to BBC's head |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I will stand with you against threats |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. So you will act on your rights to protest your threats |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. And, as I have said, THAT is wrong |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Would you personally be pleased if BBC gave in? |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Threats are not Christian |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Yeah, I remember us picketing outside the Sinclair CEO home. |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Other CEOs have been picketed |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Well they ARE engaging in actual threats |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Yeah, I bet you supported the free speech of thos "most wanted lists" |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. As I remember, those websites were saying Wanted: Dead or Alive... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:27 PM Original message |
Oh, come on....it was just freedom of speech! |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. If you read my post, I said that there was an obvious conspiracy.... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's quite likely that they are breaking the law |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Be nice if these clowns end up in jail. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That position supports a weak 1st Amendment |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. We are talking about England, genius. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. So, you don't think they should be as free? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Are you crazy? You want to publish names so that some psycho |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It's not their personal lives, it's their work lives that are at issue |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You want to publish their home addresses where there children |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. They are taking public actions |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Religious maniacs will though, you position is absurd. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. My position supports free speech and free protest |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Your position supports targeting innocent people. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No, my position supports targeting the people involved |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Vegaswolf....I have read of many (and participated in a couple) protests.. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. I believe that targeting people at home, in front of their wives and |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. It is a common tactic |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. Peaceful protest would not need phone numbers |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. If protesters can't get through at work |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Illegal? Terrorism? n/t |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Wrong. n/t |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Well, heck since we all agree its not illegal then.... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Because it's fun to talk about despicable things? n/t |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Well, the way the Colts are killing the Broncos right now (28-3)... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. I KNOW, I thought 10 point spread was too rich so I bet on the Packers. |
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rockedthevoteinMA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:24 PM Original message |
England doesn't have the First Amendment that we do... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
59. It should |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Protest is moral |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. you're wrong |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I don't want anyone hurt |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Why, because people produce a show that violates your absurd |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. It doesn't matter what the show says |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. By targeting their homes? That's a little over the top. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. This cracks me up |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I think the answer is obvious, Alicia. |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The double standard rules |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. bullshit |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Look at the post about protests at CEO's homes |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. You don't want anyone hurt, but you won't take any action to stop |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Freedom of speech is not contemptible |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Of course not....that's exactly what the anti-abortion forces say... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. It sounds like you strongly support hiding public information |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Let's see....Government=Public |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. So, should politicians be free from protest away from their jobs? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Politicians are ALWAYS public servants.... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Media people serve the public just the same |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Sorry, but you are just wrong on that. |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. The airwaves are public |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Then you have no problem with this case....the BBC is subsidized.. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
104. Farming in the US is subsidized! That makes farmers public servants? |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Everything in the U.S. is subsidized in some way, most likely |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Ranchers get grazing rights on public land! They are public servants too! |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Their lease information is public |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. But unlike farmers, the BBC domestic..... |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Since you live in the UK, do you know if the illegality is ... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. A question for a lawyer, I'm afraid |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yeah, I like it when anti-abortion sites publish personal information too. |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. So it's okay for anti choice people |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. That's private information about a private act |
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Jen72 (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
97. No |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. But there are two levels to the argument....is it "wrong" (which I lean .. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
101. You are so wrong .... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Freedom of expression includes protest |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
115. "If you know that some members of the angry faction could possibly resort |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. Some of the logic displayed on this thread, is making the creators.. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
94. Christian values are |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Ummmm....read my posts again...we agree, except for... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
87. Hey Alica! What if some crazy fundie kills someone on that list? You |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. If a crazy anyone kills somebody, I would be sad |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. It wouldn't be her fault |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
98. Right Wingers=Terrorists |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. But there are two groups to address here.... |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Funny, I bet they say the same about you |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
102. first the muslims shut down a play |
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Flammable Materials (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
111. So I guess Christianity is not the religion of peace after all. n/t |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Christianity has bad people, so does atheism |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. For Precious Few... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
114. Isn't this like a remote control, Christians don't have to watch if |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. The right says the same about this site |
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