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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:38 PM
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Ex-Rep. Roemer Joins Race for DNC Chairman
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 02:39 PM by CornField
Former Rep. Tim Roemer said Sunday that he's joining the race to lead the Democratic National Committee a move certain to spark a heated debate about the abortion issue.

Roemer, a Catholic who opposes abortion, wants to lead a party whose platform supports abortion rights.

The former Indiana congressman said he respects the position of the many Democrats who favor abortion choice. "But I think we should not only be more inclusive on this issue, especially in the Midwest and the South," Roemer said on ABC's "This Week."

He said he's joining the race to expand the party both geographically and ideologically.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=397754

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If they chose Roemer, they lose me (and I'd imagine thousands of more women). The DNC has always been pro-woman and it should remain pro-woman.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:41 PM
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1. I saw him on This Week this morning and was NOT impressed
Of course, as a recovering catholic, I tend to be a little allergic to people who wear their religion on their sleeves and expect me to appreciate having it shoved down MY throat as a topic of conversation, and even MORE allergic when those people are politicians who ought to know better under the separation of church and state.

But for anyone who may not quite agree with me, there are other reasons not to like Roemer:

Dominionist set to take over DNC Chair, is member of Right-Wing Think Tank
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x265484#265548
Link:
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=14097

WTF? Roemer (Candidate for DNC Chair) funded by Scaife!?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1475435
Tim Roemer, Republican Noise Machine Lackey (Scaife funding)
by Chris Bowers
http://www.mydd.com/section/Activism
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:09 PM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:26 PM
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18. I saw him too
acted just like a repuke.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:59 PM
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25. i agree he is NOT exceptable to head the DNC...he is a fucking republite
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:42 PM
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2. He is DEFINTELY not someone who should be head of the DNC!!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:43 PM
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3. Yeah, right. Expand the party only if that expansion is to the right.
In Roemer's mind, progressives/liberals are to be taken for granted. Forget anything but pandering to the corporate elites and lobbyists.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:43 PM
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4. They lost me when they chose male chauvinist pig Reid
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 02:48 PM by DELUSIONAL
this would be just one more nail in the DNC's coffin.

And this would be a clear message to liberal women --

I am NOT willing to go back in time to please some idiots who really don't give a damn .

Didn't a recent poll find that swing voters didn't matter? Why alienate the liberal progressive (and feminist) base of the Dem party?

Trying to pander to the right isn't going to overcome all the right wing hate radio and religous right ring nuts -- we don't want those fools.

It is far more than reproductive choice -- those suckers want complete control over women -- NO birth control -- they want to Afganize American women.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:46 PM
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5. No..NO!!!. The WORSE!
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 02:49 PM by sheeptramp
Didnt I reada thread in DU this very week about Roemer being supported by Scaife?!

Yeah. Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2918233
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:04 PM
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7. Yes. One good thing about this is if we watch to see who supports
this corporate elitist we will find out who in the DNC is a member of the corporate elitist group and wearing Democratic party mask. So far Reid and Pelosi.

What a sorry mess the DNC is.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 02:57 PM
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6. Gosh I have never seen a women who is anti abortion.
n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:10 PM
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9. Get lost! Women rights are more important than one's opinion
on abortion.

This is what pisses me off with Harry Reid.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:37 PM
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10. Sorry, Tim -- no DINOs need apply...
... because it's time to kick some life and energy back into the party ith a much needed Deanizzling!
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:25 PM
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11. YeeeHawwww,
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 04:32 PM
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12. Tim was also a member of the 911 Cover-up Commision.
<http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_roemer.htm>

I give points to Harry because of his speech on Jan 6th. But Nancy, well I'm waiting to hear something good about her. And no, being from SF doesn't cut it.



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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:07 PM
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13. If Dean is not new DNC chair...
I can no longer support Dem's and I must move to Green! Cobb "Green Party" was the one who got things rolling for Ohio and stood up for "We The People"!!! He'll have my support!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:14 PM
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16. Support them both.
That's what I do.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:20 AM
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34. If Dean is such a great guy, why didn't he speak out more on the Ohio
recount? :shrug:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:09 PM
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14. Anti-choice, Pro-corporate, Anti-EPA
Hell, why don't we ask Newt Gingrich if he wants to chair the DNC.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:21 PM
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17. Ha!
Or Tom Delay or Dennie Hastert.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:10 PM
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15. why not just change our names to Depublicans at this point????
if someone like Roemer gets the position, I'm out.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:33 PM
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19. If he becomes chair
I am going to register as an Independent.
This gives me no pleasure at all.

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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 05:45 PM
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20. the DNC chairman must accept Democrats are the opposition party..
Roemer would have Democrats compromise without any political strength or advantage. If Democrats don't force Republicans to make concessions, how can the DNC spark a debate on abortion or any other issue?

Tim wants to expand this party ideologically, but only to keep opponents of the Iraqi War, deficit spending, and criminalizing abortion off the public stage. It would be like Washington surrendering to Cornwallis just to include the Redcoats and King in our national tent.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 07:32 PM
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21. Can we contact our Congressman, Governors, and State Chairman...
and tell them how we feel? Roemer as DNC Chairman will depress what's left of the Democratic base. This is such a boneheaded inside-the-Beltway idea.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 07:36 PM
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22. Did he say RNC chair?
It would be a better fit for him, ideologically speaking.
Scaife ho's need not apply at the DNC.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:14 PM
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23. Do the Republicans pander to the left?
Fuck no! So why is our leadership continously trying to snuggle up to the right-wing while treating us like dirt?

I'm tired of it. This whole country can take the flying leap into fascism that it seems to so desperately want to. I'll just sign myself into Gitmo for being a Godless, pro-choice, gay-defending liberal. There's just no place for us anymore.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:47 PM
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24. Was he on the 9/11 commission? I am not impressed with their
conclusions. They bent over backwards not to cast blame. What the hell did they think they were paid for? They brought Clinton/Gore into so they could look as if not accusing the Bushies was non-partisan.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:07 PM
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26. Don't let the door hit you on the way out
I have some problems with Roemer, but his position on abortion isn't one of them. I don't know how it is that the Democratic Party, which was once a truly great, broad, national party, somehow managed to be defined by a single issue like abortion. Funny, but I don't remember such Democratic icons as FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ having a heck of a lot to say about that particular issue.

While I generally favor legalized abortion, I don't have the slightest problem with having a DNC Chair who isn't pro choice.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:31 PM
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28. I think that you can have what's left of the
Democratic Party, and good luck to you. Without the left, the progressives, African Americans, women's right activists, and the anti-Iraq war activists, you won't have a party as big as the Libertarians - so, really, good luck!
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:04 PM
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31. Speak for yourself
You act as if the only thing these groups care about is abortion.

And in case you haven't noticed, the groups you refer to simply aren't enough to make the Democratic Party the majority party. That being the case, SOMETHING has to be done to attract more people to the party. As a purely mathematical proposition, I don't see how moving even further to the left is going to help matters.
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lavendermist Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:21 PM
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27. I saw him also this morning..
and I was very impressed. I think he would make a fine Republican leader. You know, I try to educate myself about many things, especially politics. But sometimes I just get an inner feeling, some kind of intuition, that beats all education. Seeing him this morning made my skin crawl. :scared: I will not support him or anyone who does.:thumbsdown:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:44 PM
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29. Anti choice, anti woman, anti rights. n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:45 PM
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30. No thanks. (nt)
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:21 AM
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32. Nah, I don't think so, unless you want the party to draw in moderate
Repubs and dump progressives.

Let's see,

red state, heart of the nation, Bush-lite, anti-choice, 9/11 Whitewash Commission, Bush supporter on Social Security, voted against Democratic President Clinton's budget in 1993, voted to make it harder on bankrupts; favors death penalty,

just what the doctor ordered to push the party still further right.

Jesse Jackson was sure right when he said, "One party, two names."
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 10:36 AM
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33. Tim Roemer's record on reproductive choice
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:54 AM
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35. Scum & infiltrator.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:56 AM
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36. It's sad how many "democrats" even here are willing to
compromise on any and all issues just to win. My question is if we give up our positions on abortion, the environment, tax structure, corporate regulation, media monopolization, equal rights, etc..... what will we have left?

I am not a democrat just because I like the name. I'm a progressive and I will sacrifice only so much of my conscience before leaving the remains of this party to those who think only of short term gains at the expense of long term goals. If someone thinks that makes me immature or trite, that's fine. At the end of the day, I'll have my pride and my beliefs intact.

It's time these appeasers realized they are nothing without us. We created this party with our hard sweat and we can build another. How much support will these repub-lites get?
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