Former Abu Ghraib Guard Defends Graner

[Rose Siding]

FORT HOOD, Texas - A former guard at Abu Ghraib prison testified Thursday that intelligence officers wanted detainees roughed up there, and that Spc. Charles Graner Jr. did not take part in a number of the abuses he is accused of committing.
...
Ambuhl testified that intelligence officers directed the prison's guards to rough up and sexually humiliate detainees, and that the guards were praised for their efforts.

On one occasion, she said, an intelligence officer known as Steve told guards to "break" a prisoner known as al-Qaida, who was believed to have valuable information.

"Steve told us that we were doing a good job and that breaking al-Qaida would save a lot of lives," she said.

Another time, she said, two military intelligence officers told Graner to physically abuse a prisoner in a shower.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=2&u=/ap/20050113/ap_on_re_us/prisoner_abuse_graner

Under cross, she admitted she'd had a sexual relationship with him and that she didn't want him to go to jail.

[VegasWolf]

1. Damn, that prision was one big sex party for the Americans. n/t

[rkc3]

3. Nothing like giving an ass-whooping to get the juices flowing.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. Oh, gross

Well, thank God dem queers are being kept out of the military, thus eliminating any sort of improper shenanigans. :eyes:

[beam me up scottie]

4. Yeah, you guys are bad for morale!

;)
n/t

[NYC]

5. Another one?

Popular guy.

...Under cross, she admitted she'd had a sexual relationship with him and that she didn't want him to go to jail...

Why were women attracted to that sadist? Were they also sadists?

[Coastie for Truth]

6. How come they stopped below

General Boynton, Secretary Cambone, Secretary Wolfovitz, and Secretary Rumsfield (I won't ask the obvious about Cheney and Bushie - "WE" re-elected them - in a manner of speaking).

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[TryingToWarnYou]

8. Al Qaida?????

Not in Iraq...

[0007]

9. This is a decorated lamp shade that made prisoners jerk off

Now we know of two women he was screwing in 372nd Military Police Company....and one is having his baby.

[beam me up scottie]

10. ACK!

there went my sex drive for the next few years...

[0007]

11. I'm sorry! But this type of shit drives me nuts along with the

bible banging fuckers wraps up in the flag.


Our hero getting his nuts off in another way!

[beam me up scottie]

13. That's okay. It's better that way. I won't be allowed to take birth

control pills very much longer anyway. The amerikan taliban will see to that.

[hector459]

12. Is Graner a married man?

Did she testify that she had sexual relations with him? Why should anyone believe this story?

[Rose Siding]

14. She says MI told her to mock a prisoner's genitals

FORT HOOD, Texas (Reuters) - A former U.S. military policewoman testified on Thursday that an intelligence officer at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison asked her to mock the genitals of naked detainees, supporting defense contentions that guards were following military intelligence orders.

In the strongest defense testimony so far, Megan Ambuhl told the court-martial of Spc. Charles Graner, portrayed as the leader in the 2003 prisoner abuse scandal, that interrogators would tell the guards what to do with detainees.
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"They would come down with their detainees and let us know what they wanted us to do with them," Ambuhl said, referring to military interrogators. "They might say this guy is cooperating, not cooperating."

In one instance, she said an intelligence interrogator asked her to watch a male detainee shower. "They wanted me to go in the shower and point at the genital area and laugh at them," she said.

link

I'm sure further arrests are pending /sarcasm.

What *would* be the formal charge for giving orders like that?

[0007]

15. This must be Megan Ambuhl

and the England ho

[riverwalker]

16. a long history of abuse

"Graner and his wife, Staci, separated in 1997. In court papers, he accused her of trading their relationship for another one. Over the next four years, Staci Graner obtained three temporary protection of abuse orders.
In an affidavit for the first order, Staci Graner said Charles Graner threatened to kill her and told her "that she could keep his guns, because he did not need them for what he was going to do to the plaintiff." A judge ordered the couple to conduct their child custody exchanges at the police station.
For the 1998 order, Staci Graner testified that one night Charles Graner sneaked into the house where she was living with their children and jumped out at her from the laundry room to scare her. "I just don't think this is normal behavior, and he does frighten me," she testified. "I don't want him anywhere near me."
Her affidavit said that Charles Graner "set up a video camera in my house without my knowledge and showed me the tapes."
In 2001, Staci Graner filed a five-page, handwritten affidavit. She said that Charles Graner had come to her house and "yanked me out of bed by my hair, dragging me and all the covers into the hall and tried to throw me down the steps."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-05-06-soldiers-usat_x.htm

And in his job as guard in Pennsylvania:

"According to Yarris, Graner was responsible for moving prisoners within the facility and was "violent, abusive, arrogant and mean-spirited" toward Yarris and other inmates. Yarris said he knew of several instances in which Graner was involved in physically assaulting prisoners. Yarris also states that Graner was reprimanded by his superiors on several occasions and was disliked by both prisoners and other prison employees. Upon learning that Graner - a reservist called to active duty in Iraq in May 2003 who receives a $500 per month stipend from the DOC - was given a supervisory role at Abu Ghraib based on his civilian training and experience in Pennsylvania, Yarris expressed disgust.

"He was at the bottom level of prison guards," Yarris states, "so he must've done a good job bragging to the military about what a 'big shot' he was at Greene." Yarris also confirmed that, prior to being taken out of their cells, prisoners held in Administrative Custody at SCI-Greene were forced to strip naked in front of the transport team, lift their genitals, and bend over for a visual "inspection." The sexual humiliation of the prisoners at SCI-Greene is eerily similar to the tactics used by military personnel under Graner's supervision against Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib."