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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:55 PM
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Armitage Says He, Powell Sought Influence
By BARRY SCHWEID
The Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Commenting on Washington's worst-kept secret, Secretary of State Colin Powell's deputy said he and Powell sometimes went public with their dissenting views to try to influence Bush administration policy.

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Powell and Armitage, whose friendship was forged decades ago, share foreign policy views that are distinctly more moderate than those of Bush and other key presidential advisers. They also made far more use of media interviews and speeches to promote U.S. foreign policy than their predecessors.

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"When Secretary Powell speaks or when Rich Armitage speaks, we're putting out our views. And we will do so respectfully, of course," Armitage said according to a text released Friday by the State Department. "This is what the president paid us for, to bring him our views."

Armitage offered no examples of specific areas or issues of disagreement, although his response was to a question that suggested that Powell and he had been at odds with other top administration officials on policies involving North Korea and the Middle East.

Powell is known to have pushed for negotiations with North Korea over its nuclear weapons programs, a strategy Bush adopted after months of review at the beginning of his first term. On the Middle East, Powell sometimes sought more flexibility from Israel, than did the White House, in dealing with the Palestinians.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:57 PM
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1. "This is what the president paid us for, to bring him our views."
That is what you THOUGHT he paid you for.

Just look at the new cabinet to know he doesn't want intelligent opinions.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:36 PM
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10. bush only wants affirmations - no intelligent opinions.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:01 PM
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2. so in a nut shell, he and Powell's dissenting view were
really window dressing
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:06 PM
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4. yes indeed.
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 03:06 PM by leftchick
pure bullshit for the masses to act like there was some REAL diplomacy going on. :eyes:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:12 PM
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6. i'm kind of surprised at Richard "Uncle Festa" Armitage
I didn't know he had dissenting views, thats my fault because i've stereo typed him as a Sgt. Hulka or the What is your major malfunction type of guy.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:04 PM
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3. How scary is it when Armitage is considered the moderate? n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:09 PM
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5. and he and Powell are out of there!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:35 PM
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8. no shit Skakespeare!
the Iran-Contra criminals are now "moderates" :eyes:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:23 PM
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7. Armitage and Powell put ideology above their souls and country IMHO
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:36 PM
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9. too late to CYA now
Rich and Colin think they can use this to cover their behinds. It won't work. Now if you held public press conferences stating objections to dimson, or publically threaten to resign, you would be heros now, wouldn't ya? Instead, your legacy is a couple of gutless cowards, who didn't muster the integrity to stand up to this lunatic.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:54 PM
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11. imo, just another taxpayer paid PR campaign ...
using their current posts, budget, and, media access, to do a little image control - reshaping, reinventing, re-engineering ... on the way out ...

...paging Hill & Knowlton PR firm ...


why do they need to be doing this?


if they "sometimes went public" why is it necessary to, now, say that that's what they did?


... maybe it wouldn't be considered a "worst-kept secret" ...


"Armitage offered no examples of specific...issues"


Can't tell if this 'AP' piece is taken from a combination of a verbal exchange and a text release or the text release only.


"...although his response was to a question that suggested that Powell and he had been at odds ..."

who asked the question?

was the question verbally asked, or did the PR release ("according to a text released Friday") ask and answer its own question(s)?

no credibility = no integrity

a bunch of liars, crooks and frauds ... IOW ... good ol'boys ...



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