US helicopter gunship makes emergency landing in Mosul

[leftchick]

BAGHDAD, Jan 15 (KUNA) -- The US forces in Iraq announced on Saturday that one of their helicopter gunships made an emergency landing in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

A statement by the multiunational forces, a copy of which received by KUNA, said the helicopter made the emergency landing while extending logistic support to the US troops north of the city of Mosul.

It added that the two pilots aboard were rescued after they escaped unhurt.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=697282

[leftchick]

1. I am betting it was shot down....

Mosul seems to be a happening place for the US today!



An Iraqi firefighter battles a burning food storage depot after it was set ablaze during clashes between U.S. forces and insurgents, in the northern city of Mosul, January 15, 2005. REUTERS/Namir Noor-Eldeen





U.S. military armored vehicles patrol the area where a roadside bomb targeting a US convoy exploded, in the Iraqi city of Mosul, some 360kilometers, (225miles) north of Baghdad, Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005. Fresh clashes between U.S. troops and insurgents erupted Saturday in Mosul, the country's third largest city and the capital of Ninevah province. Witnesses said the fighting broke out after an attack on a U.S. convoy and that some shops and houses were damaged. (AP Photo)



U.S. Army 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry soldiers return to their vehicles after hearing a large, distant explosion in Mosul, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005. A roadside bomb had struck another Army convoy across the city. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)




A man walks past a burning Turkish truck carrying supplies for the U.S. military, after a roadside bomb targeting an American convoy exploded, in Iraqi city of Mosul, some 360kilometers, (225miles) north of Baghdad, Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005. Mosul have suffered frequent insurgent strikes and deadly clashes involving U.S. forces, raising questions about whether voting on this months' elections will be able to proceed in the area. (AP Photo)

[Divernan]

2. "extending logistic support to the US troops"? ? ? ? ?

What is this? Military - speak for shooting up civilian neighborhoods? Was the copter shot down? In any event, it apparently was abandoned, as the two pilots "were rescued after they ESCAPED (emphasis added) unhurt. " Use of the term "escaped" indicates they were under attack. Write off another helicopter - bet it was torched by the locals. Now just how much did we taxpayers pay for that chopper?

[mike_c]

3. not as much as the Iraqis have paid for it, undoubtedly....

eom

[Divernan]

5. In the currency of human suffering and agony, you are correct.

nt

[leftchick]

4. Here we are! Truth in the Photo caption...

U.S. Army soldiers and a U.S. helicopter guard the perimeter after another U.S. helicopter was forced down after taking fire in an engagement in Mosul, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005. The flight crew was not injured and the downed helicopter was later flown from the scene. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)



A U.S. Army soldiers looks over a U.S. helicopter which was forced down with battle damage after taking fire during an engagement in Mosul, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Jan. 15, 2005. The flight crew was not injured and the downed helicopter was later flown from the scene. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

[jmcgowanjm]

6. was later flown from the scene. We are Gods!

With one wave of the scorcerer's hand the
machine rose into the sky and flew away!


Actually, and I have seen the figures from the Pentagon,
over 8,000 are dead and over 15,000 are wounded,
some maimed for life…blind, missing legs and arms or with
the prospect of spending the rest of their young lives confined
to a wheelchair in a Vets hospital with a permanent piss bag
tied to a leg. This is the greatest secret and holds the
greatest fear for the Bush people.

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1314.htm

Report totals IRR 011405
(does not include Mosul)

U.S Soldiers Killed........78 +27Wia + 3 Brit Kia.

Humvees Des/Dis...........13
Bradleys.........................10
Trucks/Tankers...............5
Abrams..........................1
Blackhawk......................1

They're discussin' the 8000 KIA and 15000 WIA
here.

I remembergetting soo much flack when I
suggested this in February 2004.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2954778#

[jmcgowanjm]

7. And remember those prisoners escaping from that bus?

IRR011405

Resistance operation frees 38 Abu Ghurayb prisoners
Thursday night.

A source in the Iraqi puppet police disclosed on Friday that
38 prisoners in Abu Ghurayb were able to escape when
Iraqi Resistance fighters attacked a bus that was carrying
them from the prison into
Baghdad.

The source, who works with the Iraqi puppet police and who requested anonymity, told Reuters that the Resistance fighters attacked the Daewoo police bus loaded with 38 prisoners on Thursday night. All the prisoners were liberated and fled. The Resistance fighters seized the weapons of the guards on the bus.

[KansDem]

13. Semantics?

The flight crew was not injured and the downed helicopter was later flown from the scene.

Could it have been "towed" away using one of those large, cargo-lifting helicopters? Perhaps to keep the locals from salvaging it after the US troops were gone?

I noticed semantics plays an important role with the Bushistas. In order to make Bush appear more suitable for the role of POTUS, after his famous "Mission Accomplished" landing, the corporate media kept referring to him as a "fighter pilot during the Vietnam War." While this is technically true, notice the preposition "during;" Not quite the same as "in." "During" suggests a time frame, while "in" refers to location. And the media whores never explained that Bush never acted in the capacity of "fighter pilot" (he never saw combat which one might believe a "fighter pilot" would do), but merely flew them around the skies of Texas as a pilot of fighter planes.

Bush is a dumbshit, but some of those who cover for him do know how to use the language!

[jmcgowanjm]

28. Yea, you're right, KansDem n/t

[LiberalCompassionate]

10. that chopper

has some "battle damage" from the "engagement". I'm sure the F-15's have now completely "neutralized" the 5 square mile area where that RPG came from.

Soon Iraq will look just like Afghanistan - a pile of rubble. (except for the oil fields that coincidentally are exactly where our 14 permanent military bases are)

Why can't I sleep through this nightmare like the rest of the sheeple? Sheeesh...I wish I had pickles brain. :dunce: Maybe then it won't hurt so bad.

[jmcgowanjm]

8. Look at these pics!

http://rense.com/general61/loses.htm

[leftchick]

11. Holy Shit! These are Bad!

Thank you for the link jmcgowanjm! I had not seen any of these photos before. Yep, the USA has The best propaganda machine ever!







... why am I thinking this guy is not US Military? He has that mercenary appearence to him.

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

17. it's the armor...

just the mercs have it :eyes:

[haele]

21. BodyArmor, designer sunglasses and beard.

That's no grunt - nor is he Special Forces, that's definatly a merc.

Haele

[leftchick]

22. thanks for the comfirmation....

It is months of looking at photos like this that makes me sceptical....






It looks like they share the same automatic weapon manufacturer!

[pinniped]

27. Looks like that POS jebby*.

.

[Stella_Artois]

29. Because he's German

Look at the flag on his left arm. That would place him in Afghanistan.

[jakpalmer]

42. The man on the third pic has a German flag on his shoulder

This pic was probably taken in Afghanistan where some European countries (including Germany) operate with a UN mandate.

[ckramer]

12. Wow! Unbelievable!

[jmcgowanjm]

9. PIC-C130 brought down by missile

http://rense.com/general61/ucs.htm

[ahunter]

14. That C-130 was not downed...

It hit that big ass hole in the RW. Look at the tire tracks in the mud of the hole, which was an underway repair not included in NOTAMs.

[BrotherBuzz]

15. Study the photo series more

The plane crashed and skidded along the runway. Fire damage is on both sides of the hole. I suspect the hole is a repair to a severly damaged section of runway, and the tracks you see are from a tractor. All in all, I see no evidence that a missle was involved in this crash, but you never know.

Oh, welcome to DU. :)

[leftchick]

16. and you know this because???

you were there??

[DistantWind88]

19. That C-130 was damaged by the landing

The Navy crew that landed the previous night was disciplined for failing to file a NOTAM on the damaged runway.

[leftchick]

20. so you were there?

and saw it all happen? God, I am so glad for an eyewitness to clear things up for me!

:eyes:

[DistantWind88]

23. No but I read the AAR

Obviously you did not.

[Stella_Artois]

18. I'm sorry, but thats laughable

Brought down by missile ?

There's a huge farking hole in the runway. It doesn't take a genius to work out what happened there.


Last week - a C-23 Sherpa flew into a US operated airfield in Iraq during the day and saw there was construction equipment on the runway. Yet there was no NOTAM (notice to airmen). A trench was being dug in the runway, and it was not marked. It's a long runway and they just landed beyond the construction. They filed a safety hazard report that was immediately forwarded to the higher headquarters and to the Air Force wing based here. Well, it seems the construction continued, and still not marked or NOTAMed or anything. A C-130 landed on the runway the night of the 29th and didn't see the construction. It wound up going through what is now a large pot-hole in the runway. A few pictures are attached. The C-130 was totaled. There were several injuries to the crew and the few passengers that were on board but luckily nobody was killed. Quite the set of failures somewhere in the system regarding this improper construction and no notifications about it.

[daleo]

24. So what do you make of the hole in the wing then?

I don't see how the damage could have arisen to the back of the wing, but not the front by a forward motion into an obstacle. Oddly, it actually looks like something hit it from above the wing (from the deformation of the metal), like a bomber that had been hit from a fighter above it in WWII. That obviously wouldn't be the case here, though.

[Stella_Artois]

25. Fuel fire

Thats where some of the fuel tanks are, the alloys they use actually burn if you get them hot enough.

Seriously, trying to pin this on a SAM based on a hole in the wing when there is a huge hole in the runway with pieces of C130 in, complete with tyre marks, is borderline desperate.

[jmcgowanjm]

26. Amazing the expert rebuttals we get at DU

The "knew this all along, simple explanation
for this event" folks.

Never original, always rebutting, usually w/o
links.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1155723#

[Stella_Artois]

32. It doesn't take an expert

When you have a hole in the runway with peices of C-130 in it, its not hard to come up with a theory about the hole playing apart in the incident.

[jmcgowanjm]

35. OK, you're right. I'm sorry.

James

We lost a C130. I didn't see a report
on it in the Media.

I'd also never seen a pic of a C130
disabled in Iraq.

Maybe triangulated mortar fire.

That would explain Daleos remark of coming over
the top.

[Stella_Artois]

38. Took me 2 minutes

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_400.shtml

http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/480-700.asp


Its hardly a secret. Dumb things happen.

lol mortar fire on a landing aircraft. That would be a shot in a million. And they are firing mortars that leave craters with perfectly stright edges. Wow.

[SweetLeftFoot]

41. Mortars

Not impossible though.

Crossmaglen Provos shot down a Lynx using a mortar.

http://www.gmu.edu/academic/pcs/SAPONE71PCS.html

[DukeBlue]

30. Rense has been right a total of 2 times ever, by accident(NT)

[Stella_Artois]

31. Some of those pics are new

The burning M1's for instance, i've not seem them before.

Others are not "secret" by any means, the picture of the crying US soldier is used as a sig by someone on DU ffs, hardly a coverup.

Others are just wrong, for example the wrecked aircraft which is a Soviet era SU-22, the burning APC which is a Soviet era MT-LB and the soldier stood in front of the wrecked aircraft who is German and therefore unlikely to be in Iraq.

[DukeBlue]

33. These pics are questionable, at best

Guys in green fatigues, in Iraq?
The evil merc, is a German soldier, note the patch and HK weapon.
Some of the others look like gw1.

Rense is garbage.

[Stella_Artois]

34. Heh

Not a fan then ?

The Bundeswehr guy complete with flag on arm and G36 is pretty wrong.

This Rense character needs to do his research better, if he wants to be taken seriously. I support his message, but the execution is poor.

[jmcgowanjm]

36. Good, glad you're here, Stella_Artois to help us out

You know we have a limited budget
I can't afford Jane's.

And there were Americans and American
equipment in that montage.

I do get alot of info from Rense.
That C130 pic url doesn't work
for me anymore.
I'll stay with them as long as I
think they're right.

At worst Rense is a National Enquirer
(remember that anthrax traced
to Ft Detrick. Whatever happened to that.
I sure wouldn't expect any MSM to
have any info on that. Hell, they dropped it like
a hot rock after the Detrick connection surfaced.)
of the Web. I get alot of links from
them. If you want to dis them
give me a substitiute.

Here's another thing MSM isn't touching.
Who would talk about this first-
MSM or Rense.
Google Aaron Brown Walter Rodgers
and 3/7 Cavalry
and explain to me this.

Who's talked more about Peakoil-
MSM or Rense.
Who do you think will bring it up next-
MSM or Rense.

MSM is lyin' to our asses.
We're posting LBN on the fly.
Welcome to the fight!
De l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace !! Auteur Georges-Jacques
Danton (1759 - 1794)
Date : 2 septembre 1792


Fort Stewart is home to 24,000 soldiers and the Army's
Third Infantry Division, the troops who seized Baghdad in
the early days of the war in
Iraq. Where did these soldiers suffer their
casualties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/21/national/21SOLD.html?ex=1106110800&en=1e6ee660b5c2f9fd&ei=5070&oref=login

Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cavalry is the unit comprised of all
the unacknowledged dead soldiers from the Battle of
Baghdad, who are receiving no just reckoning or
recognition because the media lied — and continue to
lie – about the Battle of Baghdad. We have a Watergate cover
up on our hands; worse, we have a war. I have
assumed command of Ghost Troop and, according to the oath
I swore when I accepted commission as an Army officer, I
have self-mobilized (under my former rank of captain) to
oppose the Bush cover up of the unpleasant realities of
Iraq — especially of Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cavalry. I consider
myself to be in a state of revolution against an
unconstitutional, unconscionable abuse of the public’s right
to know — the first freedom guaranteed to Americans. So
long as there is no talk of what actually happened in
Baghdad that weekend in April, there is no freedom of
the American press. The fix is in, my friend, and America’s in
a fix.

The $100 offer to find out the truth about the lost weekend
in Baghdad still stands. In fact, given the depth of the denial,
I’ve increased it to $1000 for the reporter who breaks the story
of the Battle of Baghdad — and thirty pieces of silver for his
or her megamedia
parent.

Captain Eric Holmes May, MI, USA

http://www.geocities.com/onlythecaptain/

[Stella_Artois]

39. Like i said

I support the message, but the execution is poor.

Some of the pics on that site are indeed US equipment, and some of them are new to me. Some of them are not however, and this seem to me to be a barrier to wider acceptance of the message.

You made a comment about Janes. I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but you / whoever can pick up old versions on ebay cheap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14050&item=6505803911&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

If the pictures could be validated, it would strengthen the message IMHO.

If you were being sarcastic, then screw you. I was only trying to help :P

[jmcgowanjm]

40. No, Stella_Artois, I've got enough enemies already, thanx

I'm looking for allies for the coming Dark Ages

For author Jane Jacobs, Dark Ages are times when
surviving generations don’t even have the opportunity to
wonder how their culture could have disappeared so
utterly - because the very memory of it has disappeared
too.
The author suggests a Dark Age isn’t a one-shot deal for
any given place and time, but rather a strange attractor in
the chaos of
history.

http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0410159/cg159_Jacobs.shtml

Thank you for the Ebay link. I was not being sarcastic.
OK, maybe a little. I'm told that I tease too much as well.
But I really do want links. I can't afford to pay, though.
Our budget is that tight. Don't need any charity. But don't
have any extra. A hobby of mine is to stop by a local
pawn to see if they have a certain type of pliers.
That's where I am.

I'll leave you with another Rense link'd article:
Sy Hersh, the New Yorker on US preinvasion
plans for Iran. I'm still betting these yoyo's attack
Syria first.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact

Cheers and well met,
James

[jmcgowanjm]

37. MSM,bushco is garbage. Give me your StarShopper of info, please

A constructive link of yours.

Thank you.