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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:09 PM
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Bush faces new breed of policy protesters
Bush faces new breed of policy protesters
By Thomas Crampton International Herald Tribune Monday, January 17, 2005

But true influence still eludes them

(snip)
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The fact that advocacy groups independent of the Democratic Party supported Senator John Kerry to the level of $188 million - more than three times the amount spent by groups supporting Bush - has political analysts saying that the country has entered a new era of political opposition.
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"We have something unprecedented in U.S. history, and not just in modern U.S. history," said Larry Sabato, a professor of politics at the University of Virginia who is writing a book about the 2004 election entitled "Armageddon: The Bush-Kerry Clash." "No other second-term president has started with such a slim margin of the popular vote and faced such well-organized opposition," Sabato said.
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Anger combined with an inability to take action will lead to frustration that Sabato predicts will boil over into street protests in Washington. Not all analysts agree. "Don't expect those critical of Bush policies to fade away, but don't expect to see us rerun 1960s-style protests," said Tom Andrews, a former congressman from Maine who is national director of Win Without War, a group that includes 42 national organizations opposed to the war in Iraq. "You will see 21st-century antiwar organizing."
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(snip / about the "virtual march" that jammed the Senate switchboards)
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"These newly engaged voters will remain a force to be reckoned with," he said. "They will oppose anything Bush does and likely rally around specific issues that galvanize them in large numbers."
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(snip / about Moveon.org)
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The top short-term issues raised by Moveon.org's members included pushing through election reform, opposing the war in Iraq, protecting the environment and defending civil liberties. In addition to a petition signed by 400,000 demanding that Congress investigate the fairness of voting in the November election, the group has been actively fighting Bush's nominee for attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, with a series of advertisements in newspapers and on television.
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/01/16/news/rift.html

CONGRATULATIONS ACTIVISTS! CONGRATULATIONS MOVEON DONORS!

COPNGRATULATIONS KEPHRA!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:13 PM
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1. Hmm no street protests... okie dokie
maybe these guys have missed the small but growing demonstrations in the streets.

What we will see is a combination of tactics and good ol' fashioned shoe leather on the pavement will continue... though the right and bush rather that not happen...

Out of sight out of mind

By the way, hi Tinoire, my fingers and my feet are ready to move
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:45 PM
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5. I am ready to move with you!
I was just HAPPY to see that article in the International Tribune. It means activists have certainly made a difference.

Peace... That was the first good news of the day!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:18 PM
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2. Great post.
Thank you.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:25 PM
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3. Without civil liberties
we have nothing.

Yeah, we're gonna stay behind that movement.

Strange that in a constitutionally protected country we have to maneuver to keep it operational.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:25 PM
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10. Funny that. If we'd had a king or dictator earlier in our history
maybe things would have been different.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:09 AM
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12. And a lot easier.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 08:39 PM
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4. Well organized?
We must be making progress. I hope the first guy is right about huge protests.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:11 PM
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7. You expect stenographers
to tell you?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:11 PM
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But no ohter second administration has begun with ...
so little respect for democratic institutions and procedures, nor such a strong intent to undermine them further. Let's hope that our opposition CAN have effect.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:11 PM
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6. But no ohter second administration has begun with ...
so little respect for democratic institutions and procedures, nor such a strong intent to undermine them further. Let's hope that our opposition CAN have effect.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:50 PM
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8. I believe Mr Sabato is correct
Our anger and frustration is to a boiling point. It will take very little now for it to begin to spill over. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing more of our own on the streets.

I also think you will be seeing more reflection of our frustrations in our Reps and Senators. We vote them in and it won't benefit their careers to have us hate their apathy. To date we've not voiced this loudly enough. They have coasted along without making too many waves and patting us on the collective heads.

It's all about being visible and vocal, let us not forget that.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:50 PM
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9. Thanks for that read!!! 21st C. opposition, indeed!!!
The opposition is still growing, too,....and becoming increasingly creative!!!

:bounce:

The only thing I can grant Busholini is that he has activated and galvanized "the people".
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:29 PM
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11. He's never "faced" anything in his life. n/t
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