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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:18 AM
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Zarqawi's Al-Qaida in Iraq Claims Responsibility for Australian Embassy Bl
Zarqawi's Al-Qaida in Iraq Claims Responsibility for Australian Embassy Blast in Baghdad
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The al-Qaida in Iraq terror group claimed that it carried out a truck bombing at the Australian Embassy in Baghdad that killed two people Wednesday, according to a statement posted on an Islamic Web site.
The embassy blast was the first in a series of car bombings to hit Bagndad and surrounding area within 90 minutes of one another.

Iraqi authorities said nine people were killed in the blasts. The U.S. military put the death toll at 26, based on initial reports from American soldiers who responded to the attacks. The discrepancy in the count could not immediately be resolved.

Al-Qaida in Iraq is led by Jordanian-born Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a militant who has allied himself with Osama bin-Laden's terror network and is among the Americans' most wanted
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBTSYSI54E.html
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:41 AM
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1. Does al-Zarqawi exist?
Does al-Qu'eda exist?

I think they're both very convenient bogeymen created to draw
attention from the fact that this is about Iraqis who want to take
their own country back.
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elsur Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:24 AM
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2. Zarqawi is very real ...
Unfortunately we don't know enough about him but Jordan was worried about him enough that they had him in prison for 7 years and sentenced him to death, in absentia, in the late 90's.

His target was originally the overthrow of the Jordanian government.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:01 AM
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3. And, of course this information was brought to you by the
MSM, so it MUST be true. So, was it the dead Zarqawi this time or the living one??

This is such horseshit! The onlt purpose of this junk is to pretend AlQaeda was in Iraq from the get-go, which is a proven lie.

Zarqawi is our government's Goldstein and the US gov = the Australian gov.

Very handy to have evil-doers to roll out whenever necessary. Just like knowing for certain, within hours of the attack, without any investigation whatsoever, that OBL masterminded 9-11.
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elsur Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:11 AM
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4. Could you be a little more shrill?
I never said Zarqawi and al Qaeda were connected. I'm not even sure al Qaeda is a real organization. I just said he was real.

Zarqawi was well known 10 to 12 years ago.

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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:14 AM
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5. Unreal...people get so offended if you mention
anything remotely close to what the * administration or the MainStreamMedia (whatever that is) is spouting...as if the MSM never gets anything right...

Yes Virginia, there is a Zarqawi.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:28 AM
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7. Is that the Zarqawi...
Bush claimed to have killed three times already and is currently running around on a fake leg?


Damn, just like the insurgents fighting with broken backs, Zarqawi must be a zombie or a vampire.
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elsur Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:40 AM
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9. I'm not offended at all ....
... but pretending that Zarqawi doesn't exist makes you look silly when:

1. we helped train him in Afghanistan
2. he was in prison in Jordan in the 80's for sexual assault
3. he's generally been a pain in Jordan's ass for the last 15 years
4. he was imprisoned in Jordan for 7 years for allegedly trying to overthrow the government
5. after his release he tried to blow up a hotel in Amman in 1999 which he was sentenced to death for

Whether he's aligned with al Qaeda, or whether there is an al Qaeda are totally different questions.

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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:58 AM
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10. agree...the fact that the MSM acknowledges his existence does
not make him any less real.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:04 AM
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12. Why would al CIAda be in iraq?
They're sworn enemies.
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elsur Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:09 AM
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13. they used to be enemies ....
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 11:11 AM by elsur
... if there is a functioning organization like al Qaeda, it only makes sense that they have a stake in Iraq as it stands today.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:34 AM
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14. What for? Seriously; what would that motivation be, exactly?
And have they made any statements regarding this?

I've looked and can find none, other than positioning by the various US agencies.

It makes no sense to me at all.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:08 PM
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15. Welcome to DU elsur
Before continuing to show us all what an expert on Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi you are, you may want to read this? Take care and see you later.

Don

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO405B.html

Who is Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi?

<snip>Al Zarqawi is often described as an "Osama associate", the bogyman, allegedly responsible for numerous terrorist attacks in several countries. In other reports, often emanating from the same sources, it is stated that he has no links to Al Qaeda and operates quite independently. He is often presented as an individual who is challenging the leadership of bin Laden.

His name crops up on numerous occasions in press reports and official statements. Since early 2004, he is in the news almost on a daily basis.

Osama belongs to the powerful bin Laden family, which historically had business ties to the Bushes and prominent members of the Texas oil establishment. Bin Laden was recruited by the CIA during the Soviet-Afghan war and fought as a Mujahideen. In other words, there is a longstanding documented history of bin Laden-CIA and bin Laden-Bush family links, which are an obvious source of embarrassment to the US government.

In contrast to bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi has no family history. He comes from an impoverished Palestinian family in Jordan. His parents are dead. He emerges out of the blue.

He is described by CNN as "a lone wolf" who is said to act quite independently of the Al Qaeda network. Yet surprisingly, this lone wolf is present in several countries, in Iraq, which is now his base, but also in Western Europe. He is also suspected of preparing a terrorist attack on American soil.

He seems to be in several places at the same time. He is described as "the chief U.S. enemy", "a master of disguise and bogus identification papers". We are led to believe that this "lone wolf" manages to outwit the most astute US intelligence operatives. snip

The CIA, with its $30 billion plus budget, pleads ignorance: they say they know nothing about him, they have a photograph, but, according to the Weekly Standard (24 May 2004), they apparently do not know his weight or height.

more

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:37 AM
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8. Do you even know for sure
that he's alive? Ever seen a picture?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:02 AM
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11. then why is he in iraq? even though no one has ever seen him, and he's
been reported dead?
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:22 AM
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6. Once upon a time
there was a Zarqawi
now, I think, he's just a convenient cover for the Moussad

Zarqawi!! Terrorist mastermind!!!!!!
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