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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:59 AM
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'How the IRA forced me to steal £26m'
Telegraph
By Thomas Harding, Ireland Correspondent
(Filed: 19/01/2005)

The intricate planning behind the IRA's multi-million pound robbery of the Northern Bank emerged yesterday as one of the bank employees taken hostage spoke about his ordeal for the first time.

Chris Ward gave details about the audacious operation that allowed the Provisionals to steal at least £26.5 million from the Belfast bank.

The raid, just before Christmas, led to the darkest hour of the political process, despite Sinn Fein denials that the IRA was involved.

Mr Ward, 23, was watching football on television at his parents' home in Poleglass, outside west Belfast, when he answered the door to a man who bluffed his way into the house at 10pm on Dec 19.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=UD5PM2CYWQE5XQFIQMGCNAGAVCBQUJVC?xml=/news/2005/01/19/nraid19.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/01/19/ixhome.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=41586
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:13 PM
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1. post the part that justifies YOUR headline ...
i do not want to waste my time registering for the Telegraph.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:16 PM
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2. I can confirm that emad used the headline from the Telegraph (n/t)
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:36 PM
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7. There is no such quote in the article ...
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 08:52 AM by Skinner
By Thomas Harding, Ireland Correspondent
(Filed: 19/01/2005)

The intricate planning behind the IRA's multi-million pound robbery of the Northern Bank emerged yesterday as one of the bank employees taken hostage spoke about his ordeal for the first time.



Chris Ward gave details about the audacious operation that allowed the Provisionals to steal at least £26.5 million from the Belfast bank.

The raid, just before Christmas, led to the darkest hour of the political process, despite Sinn Fein denials that the IRA was involved.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:38 PM
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8. It remains the Telegraph's headline
Not mine
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:44 PM
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11. people, this is BOGUS journalism ...
... the headline is a complete fabrication.

RUBBISH, RUBBISH.

On all matters Irish, the Times and the Telegraph should be considered suspect sources for posting here on DU.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:49 PM
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13. Their coverage of Irish matters usually distinct from coverage of
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 12:56 PM by emad
organised crime in Ireland/Northern Ireland.

Most readers get the picture in distinguishing between the two.

Especially when noticing the Telegraph's use of quotation marks for headline.
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Stella_Artois Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:56 PM
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15. That makes for one dimensional forum
If we only posted and read things that we find comfortable, how will we be able to have a rounded view of an issue ?

Don't we have to read all sorts of material, some that challenge what we belive in ?

I'd rather read the material and make my own mind up.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:10 PM
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17. Not a surprise.....
Long time DU'ers do learn which sources are more reliable than others.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:40 PM
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9. LBN rules say the original headline must be used
so emad had no choice about the one he used. Rules also, of course, say you mustn't copy an entire article - only 4 paragraphs.
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:48 PM
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12. yes, and if you read the article and find the headline lies ...
... then you have a duty to inform us that the headline lied. Where is the difficulty with that?

remember, the poster is supposed to have read the article, not just the healine.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:51 PM
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14. Posted EXACTLY as it was: headline and first four paragraphs
plus the link.

What more can anyone else post viz LBN rules?
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:04 PM
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16. no
"then you have a duty to inform us"

The obligation was to follow the posted rules for the forum, not to provide opinion, which was done.

I frequently scan lbn at du because of these rules.
If you want opinion on the article read the comments.

If the subject line didn't have to match the headline, lbn would be far less useful as a source of "Latest Breaking News".
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:21 PM
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3. No need to register, just google it up to read the rest
eom
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:24 PM
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4. IRA officially denies Northern Bank heist
19/01/2005 - 07:12:31

The leadership of the Provisional IRA has officially denied any involvement in last month's Northern Bank heist in Belfast.

PSNI chief constable Hugh Orde has publicly blamed the organisation for the robbery, a stance supported by the Irish and British Governments, as well as all the North's political parties except Sinn Féin.

However, in a short statement signed with the traditional moniker P O'Neill, the Provisional IRA insisted it was not behind the raid.

IRA sources had previously denied that the organisation was involved, but politicians in Ireland and Britain had claimed this was not a real denial as it was not delivered under the name of P O'Neill.

http://212.2.162.45/news/story.asp?j=130839450&p=y3x84xy56&n=130840210
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:26 PM
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5. New appeal in £26m bank robbery
BBC


A fresh appeal has been made by police investigating the £26.5m Northern Bank robbery in Belfast.
CCTV footage has been released of a staff member who was held hostage leaving the bank with a bag of money on 20 December.

Police want anyone who saw the green Umbro bag or the man to contact them.

They also want to hear from the driver of a car which nearly collided with a woman taken hostage during the raid at the Northern Bank head office.

Hugh Constable Hugh Orde has blamed the IRA for the robbery. The IRA has denied involvement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4188719.stm

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:29 PM
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6. Halo! magazine to publish Provos' decommissioning pics
TheSpoof
Written by queen mudder



Soremount Castle, Northern Ireland, Monday 17 January - (Rioters) In a seminal landmark announcement, the Provisional IRA has finally agreed a multi-million ££££ deal to publish its controversial arms decommissioning photographs in Halo! magazine in a bold bid to break the deadlock in the Irish peace process.

The move follows months of intense negotiations with intermediaries including Belfast's Northern Bank which brokered the cash deal denominated in its own banknotes, as issued before December 1st 2004.

...

It is understood that additional front-end fees of approximately 10% on top of this sum may be payable to the US-based Riggs Bank following its worldwide success with other peace process luminaries such as General Pinochet, the conspirators of the Equatorial Guinea coup plot and various members of the Thatcher family. A cameo appearance in the Halo! twenty page four-colour spread by Riggs CEO Jonathan Bush is said to potentially greatly enhance the magaznine's future foreign publishing rights in other global peace process states such as North Korea and Cuba.

...

Movie rights to the historic move are also said to be in the pipebomb......pipeline, that is, and more announcements are expected later this week.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i7243
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:41 PM
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10. Robbery 'not in IRA's interests'
BBC

If the IRA had carried out the £26.5m Northern Bank raid it would have been "unacceptable", Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness has said.
He again said he believed IRA denials they were involved in the robbery, which police have blamed on the IRA.

Mr McGuinness said: "If the IRA had been involved...there would have been a defining moment in Sinn Fein's leadership's work with the IRA.

"It would have been totally and absolutely unacceptable to me."

The Democratic Unionist Party has called for the removal of allowances and privileges at Westminster from Sinn Fein's four MPs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4178739.stm
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