Wolfowitz says reducing US casualties in Iraq more important.....

[leftchick]

THAN BRINGING THEM HOME!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050120/ts_afp/usiraqcasualties&cid=1503&ncid=1480

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The number two Pentagon (news - web sites) official said reducing American casualties in Iraq (news - web sites) was more important than bringing US troops back home -- and pointed to the rising Iraqi death toll as evidence this strategy was working.


"I'm more concerned about bringing down our casualties than bringing down our numbers," Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said in an interview with PBS television's "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer" program. "And it is worth saying that since June 1, there have been more Iraqi police and military killed in action than Americans."


Wolfowitz said he was encouraged by the fact that Iraqis continued to volunteer to join the country's fledgling security forces, despite their losses at the hands of Islamist insurgents.


The number of Iraqi troops and police officers being trained by the US military has now reached 120,000, according to the deputy defense secretary.


But he acknowledged "there are problems in the quality" of the Iraqi recruits, who he said have a tendency to disappear from their units without permission.

[cornermouse]

1. Maybe Wolfowitz should move to Iraq so that he can

personally make them shape up?

[billyoc]

2. Pssst... Count Wolfula...

That 120,000 troop army, the one where the soldiers disappear without permission?

That's the US Army. The Iraqi army is the little one.

[Carolab]

3. Oh go suck on a comb. Vampire. n/t

[EFerrari]

4. Wins the Public Creepiness Award of All Time n/t

[UL_Approved]

5. Read the caption of this photo VERY carefully

A picture released by the US Marines shows marines escorting detainees back to a vehicle after capturing them during a raid in the village of Jabella, south of Baghdad. US Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said reducing American casualties in Iraq (news - web sites) was more important than bringing US troops back home, and pointed to the rising Iraqi death toll as evidence this strategy was working(AFP/USMC)

Article:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1565&u=/050120/photos_ts_wl_afp/050120082518_t4em42yy_photo0&printer=1

[RC]

18. The word that came to mind when I read the caption was

"Genocide".

Why else are we killing so many civilians in Iraq. How many are being shot and killed were in their own homes? How many were asleep in their own beds when shot and killed?

So tell me again why we are there...

[leftchick]

21. Here are four shot in their sleep in Fallujah....

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=8737


~snip~

I saw other rotting bodies that showed no signs of being fighters. In one house in the market there were four bodies inside the guest room. One of the bodies had its chest and part of its stomach opened, as if the dogs had been eating it. The wrists were missing, the flesh of the arm was missing, and parts of the legs.

I tried to figure out who these four men were. It was obvious which houses the fighters were in: they were totally destroyed. But in this house there were no bullets in the walls, just four dead men lying curled up beside each other, with bullet holes in the mosquito nets that covered the windows. It seemed to me as if they had been asleep and were shot through the windows. It is the young men of the family who are usually given the job of staying behind to guard the house. This is the way in Iraq - we never leave the house empty. The four men were sleeping the way we sleep when we have guests - we roll out the best carpet in the guest room and the men lie down beside each other.

"Its Abu Faris's house. I think that the fat dead body belongs to his son, Faris," said Abu Salah, whose chip shop was also destroyed in the bombing.

[liberal N proud]

22. The media whoring for the regime.

:puke:

[sweetheart]

6. He's afraid to go to iraq himself

They almost nailed that cocksucker in bagdhad... and now he's a yellow
tailed chicken shit. DUUUHHH, of course we want to reduce casualties,
why don't you make up a bullshit myth about it wolfowitz, it seems
your fantasy solution to everything else... YOU wanted to invade bagdhad.
It is your mission in life... why don't you do us all a favour and go
there to be a casualty yourself. Geesh, cowardly bastards start wars
and then whine about reducing deaths they've caused.... no concern
no civilians or no... just his own ass.

[bobthedrummer]

7. I don't know, Rumsfeld is creepier to me. So is General Myers.

And Cheney is the most vile of all.
:argh:

[BikeWriter]

8. That dumb ####! n/t

[Selatius]

9. If you look at Iraqi security forces, they've been battered heavily

Recruitment numbers are down, and attrition and desertion has pretty much wiped out all gains made in 2004. We're now stuck in the same spot we were in Jan. 2004 as far as building up Iraqi troop numbers is concerned. The 2nd assault on Fallujah alone roughly wiped out a third of Iraqi security forces at the end of 2004, as evidenced by the graph. Either that, or desertions skyrocketed during that period. We have to start over again for the year.

The yellow marks what we aim to have. The green represents what we actually have on hand. It's pretty clear that we've failed to meet projections.



Source

[bemildred]

27. You can bet those numbers are fudged too. nt

[moobu2]

10. That low life war criminal pig, Wolfnazi is one of the worse ones.

"And it is worth saying that since June 1, there have been more Iraqi police and military killed in action than Americans."

That's somehow worth mentioning as a measure of their success?

And the 120,000 are being trained, trained some of them cant even drive a damn car. Out of all the training they've done, there are about 4-6 thousand battle ready Iraqi troops right now.

The only concept these thugs know about the truth is how to twist it.

[annabanana]

11. war perpetual........

This is the means to the PNAC end. It should surprise no one.

[Disturbed]

13. The lies keep coming.

The Chimp in Chief said that it is the former Baathists that are the Insurgency. The truth is that around 200,000 Iraqis comprise the Insurgency and that number is on the rise. The troops are starting to understand that they are merely cannon fodder for the Multi-Corps and Big Oil. Six more months after this scam of an Iraq election and the house of cards will fall quickly.

[nickine9]

12. warning contentious statement below...

whilst i have every sympathy for the tragic loss suffered by American troops in Iraq and their families back home i think that saying that after invading someone's country it is somehow a good thing that more inhabitants are being killed than the invaders is OBSCENE. it seems to me that it implies that the Iraqi troops are viewed as nothing more than cannon fodder.

each and every death in this conflict is a human tragedy and failing to acknowledge that fact is the act of an inhuman barbarian.

[Bozvotros]

23. Not contentious to me

You are exactly right. That Nazi is saying that the more Iraqi's who die trying to defend their nation which we destroyed,or who are blown up or shot trying to vote, or murdered because they are trying to find a life worth living in the hell that we made, is proof that we are on the right track. And that is pure psychopathy.

[livinginphotographs]

28. Nothing contentious about that.

I agree with you 100%. And that was the quote that jumped out at me first.

But what do you expect from an evil bastard like Wolfowitz?

[Solly Mack]

31. Well said!

they've shown again how little the life of Iraqis mean to them...how little all life means to them.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Keep in mind, Wolfie is the same jerk who thought there was nothing

he could do on 9-11 while 1000's of people were being killed, so him and Rummie just continued with their meeting. Either Wolfie is a total idiot or one of the most heartless bastards on the planet.



Q: One is, where were you on September 11th? Were you at the Pentagon when --

Wolfowitz: I was in my office. We'd just had a breakfast with some congressmen in which one of the subjects had been missile defense. And we commented to them that based on what Rumsfeld and I had both seen and worked on the Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, that we were probably in for some nasty surprises over the next ten years.

Q: Oh, my gosh.

Wolfowitz: I can't remember, then there was the sort of question of what kind of nasty surprises? I don't remember exactly which ones we came up with. The point was more just that it's in the nature of surprise that you can't predict what it's going to be.

Q: Do you remember then the impact of the plane into the Pentagon? Or had you first heard stories about New York? What was --

Wolfowitz: We were having a meeting in my office. Someone said a plane had hit the World Trade Center. Then we turned on the television and we started seeing the shots of the second plane hitting, and this is the way I remember it. It's a little fuzzy.

Q: Right.

Wolfowitz: There didn't seem to be much to do about it immediately and we went on with whatever the meeting was. Then the whole building shook. I have to confess my first reaction was an earthquake. I didn't put the two things together in my mind. Rumsfeld did instantly.


http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030509-depsecdef0223.html

[TolstoyAndy]

30. That's an insult to jerks!

Either Wolfie is a total idiot or one of the most heartless bastards on the planet. (DYEW)

But seriously, isn't it possible both options are true?
I mean, I lean towards heartless bastard, but I don't want to exclude idiocy!

[leftchick]

15. READ HIS REASON FOR THE IRAQ WAR!!!

mindfucking boggling!!!

:grr:

~snip~

The deputy defense secretary also suggested that the US decision to go to war with Iraq was motivated in part by a willingness to ward off criticism of the Bush administration in case of a new terrorist attack against the United States with weapons of mass destruction.

"If we had been wrong the other way and if the threat had really been imminent and we had been hit with an anthrax attack here that was tied to Iraq and the president had done nothing about it, what would people then say?" he retorted when asked to comment about unfound weapons of mass destruction.

"I mean, it would make the criticism of failure to prevent 9/11 just look like child's play."

An independent commission report on the September 11 attacks criticized the US government for failure to see and correctly interpret signs that Al-Qaeda fighters were preparing to strike in the United States.

[LynnTheDem]

16. JUST when ya think these assholes can't say anything DUMBER.

WE CAN'T LEAVE UNTIL Iraqi cops and military can take over, bush says...and wolfowitz BRAGS on how the Iraqi cops & military are getting SLAUGHTERED!!!

LET'S HEAR IT FOR "LIBERATION" AMERICAN-STYLE!!!

God DAMN these MFing bush-psychos are SICK SICK and SICK!!!

[dbt]

17. American casualties could have been ZERO!

But the Regime doesn't listen to "focus groups," even when they number in the millions. Chalk up another one for Decisive Leadership...

:freak:
dbt

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. Is anybody checking this guy's meds?

Sounds like he's an abuser of some toxic drug; or maybe he figures that Americans are just such dopes?

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. It's just that he has no regard for human life

Him and Condi are peas from the same pod. 1000's of people killed because of their bad decisions doesn't even phase them.

[leftchick]

25. condiliar said yesterday she looks at photos of the US dead..

daily and mourns them... :puke:

[Lucille]

20. He knows the logical fallacy contained in his argument

He doesn't care.

[Supersedeas]

34. logic isn't part of the calculus--just a soundbite for the right wing talk

talking faces to insert into THIS DAY'S talking points.

And the networks will sing that soundbite like it is the gospel, without one breath of 'logical' analysis.

[no_to_war_economy]

26. wolfie's quotes will look so nice

on the front pages of the middle east

! what a dink

[leesa]

29. So the strategery is to kill them all. No one would be dead if it

weren't for you.

[Vidar]

32. Bring 'em home and there are no more casualties, you evil moron.

[warrens]

33. This goes SO far beyond spin

These monsters are just flat-out demented. This sounds like their argument that the huge death toll was really good news because if the "terrorists" were all in Iraq, we were keeping them tied up. Nazis. Nazis. Nazis.