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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:42 PM
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Outcry over creation of GM smallpox virus (Independent)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 11:08 PM
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1. didn't the PNAC mention the use of
race based toxins and diseases?

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:04 AM
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2. This seems unwise, to say the least.

Some key info from the article, with emphasis added:


"Senior scientific advisers to the World Health Organisation (WHO) have recommended the creation of a genetically modified version of the smallpox virus to counter any threat of a bioterrorist attack."

"Permitting researchers to engineer the genes of one of the most dangerous infections known to man would make it easier to develop new drugs against smallpox, the scientists said. But the man who led the successful global vaccination campaign to eradicate smallpox from the wild said he opposed the move on the grounds that the scientific benefits were not worth the risks to public health."

YIKES! Personally, I wish WHO had never declared smallpox extinct, never stopped vaccination programs. I've never believed it couldn't be out there in the wild, in an isolated region like, oh, Afghanistan, Ulan Bator, one of the seven THOUSAND Philippine Islands. . .

<snip>

"Four years ago, scientists in Australia genetically modified a mousepox virus and inadvertently created a highly virulent strain that could not be stopped by vaccination. But the WHO insisted the latest proposal to engineer the human smallpox virus was inherently safer."

YIKES! again. I'll bet they were sure the mousepox virus wouldn't get out of hand when they tinkered with it, too.

<snip>

"It is understood there are seven recommendations in the proposal, including permission to allow relatively large fragments of the virus - up to 20 per cent of its entire genome - to be shipped from the two secure laboratories to other research institutes in the world. Another recommendation allows Russian and US laboratories to snip small fragments of the virus and insert them into other members of the same pox-virus family."


DOUBLE YIKES! UPS carrying parts of the smallpox virus from city to city, even continent to continent? Or will they use Brinks?


The article also stated that scientists want to insert a gene from a jellyfish into the smallpox virus in order that the virus would then glow under fluorescent light, making it easier to identify under the microscope and, they say, allowing them to set up an automated program. It sounds nifty but I question the necessity and the wisdom of this plan. Just because something CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:46 PM
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5. And just think that a possible anthrax attacker, Jerome Hauer, is in
authority over our US bio-defense. Tommy Thompson hired Jerome Hauer from SAIC on 9-10-2001. Immediately after 9/11 (the first full on the job day for Hauer) Thompson and Hauer promoted the use of I.G. Farben's spin-off, Bayer's, Cipro well before the specific anthrax attacks, as Cipro is for that.

While Tommy Thompson bragged about his negotiating skills for a 300,000,000 dose Cipro deal, innocent US Postal Service employees were working in ANTHRAX HOT ZONES!

Jerome Hauer is in charge of US public biological defense.
DU 9/11, Anthrax investigations blocked thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=318604#top
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 05:20 PM
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7. Hauer and Hatfill
Hauer and Hatfill worked together at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis in 1999. The SAIC (Scientific Applications International Corp) later received also a huge BioDefense budget in autumn 2001.


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In 1998, he started working at the OEM (Office for Emergency Management) in New York.
In the same year, Hauer and anthrax suspect Hatfill both supported the CFR as experts in their respective fields. The CFR is an acronym for Council on Foreign Relations, one of the most important think-tanks advising the US government, as well as many other governments abroad.
CFR members include the Pentagon's top advisers, Richard Perle, Henry Kissinger, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, ex-CIA chief James Woolsey, biosciences specialist Joshua Lederberg, and many others.
On May 28, 1998, Hatfill and Hauer spoke together at the same CFR meeting about "Building a 'Biobomb': Terrorist Challenge"
more
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00068.htm


Who is Jerome "Jerry" Hauer?

Jerome Hauer, Human Health Institute, is the man who put John O'Neill at the WTC and tipped the White House off to Cipro.
Very interesting stuff.....

"Very few cities at this point in time are prepared to manage the consequences of bio-terrorist attack."
Jerry Hauer in an interview with Eyewitness News, October 1, 2001

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/WABC_investigators_100... ...

In May 2002, Jerome Hauer became director of the federal Office of Public Health Preparedness (OPHP), succeeding Dr. D. A. Henderson from Johns Hopkins Institute.

Why is Jerome Hauer not making national news yet?

He's becoming famous on the Internet. Not only for Republicans, who appreciate his long fight against bioterrorism, which he started three to four years ago.

Hauer is also controversial among those who are able to connect the dots between his person and shady business deals in biopharmacy since 1998.

More interesting, he seems to have had prior knowledge about both so called terrorist-attacks: September 11th and Anthrax.

But many private investigators claim since months, he let the attacks happen on purpose to continue his career.

Is Hauer LIHOP suspect No.1?

He started to work for the NIH under Tommy Thompson on September 10, 2001 as an adviser on national security. On September 11th, he told the White House to take Cipro, the antibiotic that works against the anthrax virus, without bothering to reveal his warning to the American nation.
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/living/health/302050...

The watchdog group JudicialWatch decided to file a lawsuit against the NIH, but also against the FBI, CDC and the White House, for the same reason: Prior Knowledge.

It is not known how long Hauer worked at the NIH before Sept. 11, but we can confirm that he was working on Sept. 10.
http://www.lauriegarrett.com/wtc_day12.html

But things get really interesting when we consider that Jerome Hauer was also the man who in August 2001 arranged a new job for John O'Neill - the resigning chief of the FBI Terror Task Force - as head of security at the World Trade Center.

How did Hauer know that the Twin Towers would be so important?

We would like to ask John O' Neill, but there is one problem: O'Neill died in the towers on September 11th, one day after he started his job officially, according to the New Yorker.

Disturbingly, O'Neill has never been received the same hero status in the mass media as has been accorded to the fallen New York firefighters and police officers. His death has gone without the same fanfare. For 11 months his story went untold, with two big exceptions.

The two French intelligence specialists Brisard and Dasquie (see: http://intelligenceonline.fr ) published an interview with O'Neill taken before his death in their book, "Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth." And articles on O'Neill were also published in the New Yorker and New York Magazine. Last week, TIME magazine also tried to remember him, but left out the most important angles.

This should change immediately.

There is obviously a lot which has been hidden from us, but for what reason?

This might have something to do with the FBI HQ (O'Neill complained about them), but also with Jerome Hauer - who is a friend of the current prime anthrax suspect, Stephen Hatfill, who was working for the military anthrax program USAMRIID at Fort Detrick and Battelle, a huge pharmacy company with many ties to the CIA.

Hauer and Hatfill worked together at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis in 1999. The SAIC (Scientific Applications International Corp) later received also a huge BioDefense budget in autumn 2001.
http://www.saic.com/news/nov99/news11-30a-99.html - (Hauer)
http://www.nandotimes.com/nation/story/455218p-3643441c... - (Hatfill)

But first, more about Hauer:

In 1983, Hauer joined IBM where he was responsible for the company's Hazardous Materials Response and Crisis Management and Fire Safety programs. Hauer produced a series of hazardous materials training videos that earned him the International Film andTV Critics of New York Bronze award in 1986.

In the early 1990s, Hauer got his first contacts to military and biodefense.

Hauer received a master's degree in emergency medical services from the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health. Then he became member of the Johns Hopkins Working Group on Civilian Bio Defense, where he wrote various articles about a possible bioterrorist attack.
http://iml.dartmouth.edu/ists/hauer.html

In 1998, he started working at the OEM (Office for Emergency Management) in New York.

In the same year, Hauer and anthrax suspect Hatfill both supported the CFR as experts in their respective fields. The CFR is an acronym for Council on Foreign Relations, one of the most important think-tanks advising the US government, as well as many other governments abroad.

CFR members include the Pentagon's top advisers, Richard Perle, Henry Kissinger, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, ex-CIA chief James Woolsey, biosciences specialist Joshua Lederberg, and many others.

On May 28, 1998, Hatfill and Hauer spoke together at the same CFR meeting about "Building a 'Biobomb': Terrorist Challenge"
http://walkingdead.net/~meow/txt/fodder.txt

Hatfill was at that time also Senior Research Associate at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (=USAMRIID)

Hauer seems to specialize in the art of holding down several different jobs at the same time. While he started to work for the NIH in September 2001, he remained a Managing Director at Kroll Associates - the official security and bodyguard company for all American presidents since World War II!

With Hauer's many sources of insider information (e.g. Kroll/President bodyguards) , it makes sense that he also knew about the CIA briefing for George Bush on August 6, 2001, about warnings of an imminent terrorist "attack with planes."

Hauer is still trying to save the world.

On November 6th, 2001 he participated in the "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" at the CFR. Participants there included James J. Zogby (President of the Arab American Institute and Central Asian Enterprise Fund), Newton L. Gingrich (Chief Executive Officer, The Gingrich Group), Harold Brown (former secretary of defense and counselor at CSIS: the Center for Strategic and International Studies), Henry A. Kissinger (Senior Fellow in National Security and European Affairs), Richard C. Holbrooke (Counselor, CFR and Vice Chairman of Perseus, LLC) and Philip A. Odeen (Executive Vice President, Washington Operations of TRW, Inc. and CEO of Reynolds + Reynolds, Dayton).

Their agenda, eight weeks after the attack of Sept. 11, was strange indeed:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MOO304B.html

"....Release a White Paper explaining our goals and rationale for the war in Afghanistan, and outlining the evidence that the al-Qa'eda network was responsible for the 9/11 attacks....
...Disseminate stories of particular victims to convey the range of people killed in the 9/11 attacks-stress range of religions, races, income levels, etc...

...counteract myth that Mossad was behind the attacks by showing Jews killed, etc...

...Routinely monitor the regional press in real time to enable prompt responses..."

Hauer's deep connection to disinformation circles for his own purpose are well known. In 1998, he convinced New York Mayor Rudi Guilliani to develop a vaccine against the West Nile virus - almost one year before this virus broke out in New York.

To this end, Hauer introduced Col. Thomas Monath of Oravax (now Accambis) to Guliani and organised a business deal.

Hauer also continued giving bioterror lectures and writing terror scenario scripts. He organized a July 26, 1999, conference in New York for journalists and "thought leaders," on bioterrorism and "Reporting on Weapons of Mass Destruction - Responsibility, Reliability, Readiness." At the same time, he was heading the West Nile spray operation in NYC.

Bioterrorism and vaccines - a perfect payroll combination for Hauer?

Among the participants at this 1999 conference was Brigadier General Bruce Lawlor of the U.S. Army and the former FBI assistant director, Lewis Schiliro (NYC).

General Lawlor has in the meantime become the Senior Director for Protection and Prevention at the Office of Homeland Security:
http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/bcsia/esdp.nsf/bios/lawlor...

Lawlor was the first commanding general of Joint Task Force - Civil Support (JTF-CS), located in Fort Monroe, Virginia. JTF-CS is a standing joint task force assigned to U.S. Joint Forces Command. Lawlor has taught at the U.S. Army War College and served as a consultant to the Defense Science Board.

Nothing is known about his further influence in preventing attacks on America.

However, as FBI assistant director, Schiliro supervised several counterterrorism investigations, including the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the 1998 embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.

But Schiliro gave up supporting Hauer in February 2000, too.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism... /

He left the FBI to move to credit card giant MBNA Corp.

And Schiliro wasn't the only one.

His close friend Louis Freeh - who was replaced in the FBI in August 2001 by Thomas Pickard as the acting head of the Bureau - started a new job as a Senior Vice Chairman at MBNA Corp in early September 2001 and began to collect shares.
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/in/k/krb.html

The background of the MBNA is very interesting. They helped the FBI in tracing the hijackers' credit card transactions, and had a lot of prominent helping hands. Among them was James Kallstrom, the former head of Special Operations, FBI.

BNA also has a controversial status among civil right groups. Since 1996, MBNA CORP has unleashed various bulldozers, dump-trucks and explosives in a savage attack on the Ducktrap Deeryard (major coastal wildlife area on Penobscot Bay, Maine USA) or continued with "dull roar of corporate jet noise".

Then, in April 2001, MBNA also had to deal with cheque fraud. Involved was Intelligent Finance, a Halifax-backed Internet bank and a bogus account for a guy named Vindel.
http://www.mbnasucks.org/kallstrom.html

Also interesting is the bio of another director of the MBNA Corporation: Bernadine P. Healy. She also serves as a trustee of the Battelle Memorial Institute and is President and CEO of the American Red Cross.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/bop2004/report.aspx?aid=220

On May 10, 2001, a few months before Sept. 11, she testified on "human challenges that we will face during a WMD attack":
http://www.slu.edu/colleges/sph/csbei/bioterrorism/offi... ...

The Red Cross and the OEM under Jerome Hauer worked very closely together.

Hauer's connections and insider information seem to be endless!

He also helped with the construction of the New York OEM headquarters known as "the bunker," on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center.
http://www.politicsny.com/reports/february02/2-14-02-sh...

The CIA later confirmed that they also had an office in that building, next to the Department of Defense and the INS. For unknown reasons, 7 World Trade Center was the third skyscraper to collapse on Sept. 11. Officially, it began burning after debris from the Twin Tower collapses caused an illegal diesel-fuel tank inside the building to explode.

The presence of this large gas tank - also on the 23rd floor - with thousands of gallons of fuel far above ground, in violation of the fire code, was confirmed some weeks after Sept. 11th. There has never been an official verdict on the reasons for the collapse of WTC 7. A FEMA study failed to reach a clear conclusion:
http://www.house.gov/science/hot/wtc/wtc-report/WTC_ch5...

While the collapse of WTC 7 remains a mystery, it cannot be said that the deaths caused by the bio-attack a couple of weeks later were similarly due to incompetence. On the contrary, Hauer had a huge team behind him, and had already warned the White House. Why didn't he leak all his information in time?

In May 2000, the Johns Hopkins Center, in collaboration with the ANSER Institute for Homeland Defense, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and the Oklahoma Memorial Institute for the Study of Terrorism held a bioterrorism exercise at Andrews Air Force Base. Former Senator Sam Nunn played the President.

David Gergen played the National Security Advisor. Governor Frank Keating played himself, Frank Wisner was Secretary of State, ex-CIA director James Woolsey (ironically) played CIA Director, John White played Defense Secretary, and Dr. Margaret Hamburg was HHS Secretary. The Attorney General was played by George Terwilliger, William Sessions was FBI Director, and Jerome Hauer played FEMA Director.
http://www.hopkins-biodefense.org/pages/library/fema.ht...

"One of the striking observations of this exercise was the unfamiliarity of these distinguished and experienced professionals with the basic decisions and trade-offs associated with managing the response to the epidemic."

Observing was Tara O'Toole, MD, MPH Senior Fellow, Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies and at that time Deputy Director of Johns Hopkins Institute.

This started a series of different "war games."

On June 22-23, 2001, the same crew organised their last big scenario before Sep11th. They called it DARK WINTER. It was about a possible smallpox attack. Hauer participated as well, this time "playing" the director of the FBI. The whole list is still mirrored at:
http://www.hopkins-biodefense.org/participants.html
http://www.mipt.org/darkwinter06222001.html
http://www.homelanddefense.org/darkwinter/index.cfm

Among the other participants once again:
James Woolsey, ex-CIA director
Hon. Sam Nunn
George Terwilliger etc.

Observing, among many others, Thomas Inglesby, at that time Senior Fellow Johns Hopkins Institute

On July 14th, 2001 the testimony on DARK WINTER was released:
http://www.csis.org/press/ma_2001_0723.htm

But when the first anthrax attacks started, the only thing, which worked perfectly, was the distribution of the anthrax antibiotic Cipro, by Bayer. A couple of weeks later, Barbara Rosenberg of FAS (Federation of American Scientists), the magazine New Scientist, the biowarfare convention specialist Jan van Aken, and the ex-UN inspector Richard Spertzel came to the conclusion that the anthrax was homegrown.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991473

Rosenberg was also supported by Dr. Francis Boyle, a human rights lawyer and professor of law at the University of Illinois. An expert on international law, U.S. criminal law and nuclear weapons, Boyle has studied many different biowarfare contracts in which "safety levels were atrocious." He is also author of "The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence":
http://www.counterpunch.com/boyle0425.html

Hauer ignored the report by Barbara Rosenberg, but he certainly knew who she was. He first met her on April 10, 1998, at a "roundtable on genetic engineering and biological weapons" under President Clinton. The small group of outside experts and cabinet members present there included: William Cohen (at the time Secretary of Defense), CIA boss George Tenet, Craig Ventner (Celera), Joshua Lederberg (Rockefeller University, Defense Science Board), Thomas Monath (Oravax/Acambis, former CDC and USAMRIID), Hauer, and Barbara Rosenberg.

In November 2001, Hauer was still ignoring the investigations by Barbara Rosenberg, who had already worked out a list of possible anthrax suspects, scientists who would have been able to gain access to the original Ames strain from USAMRIID, Fort Detrick.


http://www.fas.org/bwc/news/anthraxreport.htm

Among the suspects on this list were Battelle and the Battelle Memorial Institute administrators, who supplied the Dugway anthrax proving facility in Utah, where the only virtually identical Ames strain of silica-impregnated hyper-weaponized anthrax was found:
http://www.stlimc.org/print.php3?article_id=1295

Meanwhile, Hauer in November started an initiative known as "De-Mystifying the Biological Weapons Debate," and as a member of this group he claimed at the time that the main suspects for the anthrax attacks included "Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda network and sympathizers to US right wing extremists"
http://www.basicint.org/BWreport.htm

Therefore we have a lot of questions for him.

Is Hauer in any conflicts of interest?

What was his coordination with FEMA?

Can Hauer confirm, if a FEMA team was already dispatched to New York on September 10, as spokesman Tom Kennedy said in an interview with Dan Rather (CBS, shortly after the attack)?

(INFO: An interview with FEMA director Joe Allbaugh took place on September 12th on CBS at 7:40:20 accirding to the CBS transcript)
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:WsMptQzZzY8C:tvnew... ... )

On May 8, 2001, Bush announced a new Office of National Preparedness for Terrorism at the Federal Emergency Management Agency. At the same time, he proposed to cut FEMA's budget by $200 million. Bush said that day that Cheney would direct a government-wide review on managing the consequences of a domestic attack.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=artic... ...

Bush was aware of a possible attack, that is for sure.

But the questions are:

Did FEMA have prior knowledge as well?

How deep was the communication transfer between Jerome Hauer, the Pentagon, FEMA and the CIA?


Hauer not only knew former CIA director James Woolsey, but also Milt Bearden, who was station commander and had managed America’s covert war in Afghanistan, helping the Moujaheddin drive out the Soviets between 1986-1989. Both spoke at the Nassau Community College (NYC) on October 22, 2001:
http://www.sunynassau.edu/collegerel/news/archives/10_01/102201_3.htm

Hauer's connections to the CDC, Johns Hopkins and the CIA (James Woolsey) are well-established. What role did Jerome Hauer really play?

Why was the distribution of Cipro to White House staff on Sept. 11 classified for such a long time (AP)?
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/bush_cipro.htm

What exactly does Hauer know about Stephen Hatfill and his former USAMRIID colleague, Thomas Monath?

What was his main concern in organizing a security job for John O'Neill at the Twin Towers?

What exactly did Hauer organise on Sep11th? Is it true that his office ordered thousands of employees "back to their desks" after the first plane hit, causing hundreds of unnecessary deaths?

Did Hauer let both the Sept. 11 and the anthrax attacks happen on purpose?


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 03:10 PM
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8. Fantastic work there, seemslikeadream! That's why Hauer is suspect
numero uno in my book. Then there's the profiteering and contracts that were a result of the anthrax attacks and the silence that passes for an "investigation" of US Ames strain spores weaponized by the US Army for the end-user, the CIA!
:nuke:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:28 PM
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10. Thanks bob
:hi:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:19 AM
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3. I have no doubt that this will be used as a weapon
thing is its a indiscriminate killer!!!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:10 AM
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4. And the administration doesn't
approve of stem-cell research!!! I would think this type of research should be shelved.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 04:44 PM
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6. A good point, just like the junk science they promote in climate change
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 04:45 PM by bobthedrummer
"theories" involving human influence.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:08 PM
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9. They're creating new strains of smallpox
and world-class biochemists specializing in pandemics are suddenly dying under bizarre and suspicious circumstances.

It's enough to turn anybody into a wearer of an aluminum chapeau.
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