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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:26 AM
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Iran tells US to learn from Iraq mistakes
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_21-1-2005_pg4_15

LONDON: US President George W Bush should learn from mistakes made in Iraq and not risk further damaging Washington’s standing in the world by attacking Iran, the Iranian ambassador to Britain said Thursday.

Mohammed Hossein Adeli insisted his country’s nuclear program was entirely peaceful, and rejected US claims that Iran intends to build an atomic bomb.

Asked about reports that the United States has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions in Iran, and Bush’s refusal to rule out military strikes, the ambassador said Washington should not risk causing further tensions in the Muslim world.

“The United States should take lessons from its past mistakes, adopt a more responsible attitude and have a more multilateral approach toward world issues,” he told British Broadcasting Corp. radio. “Waging war against Muslims, disrespecting and ignoring its allies, including the Europeans, only created tension, instability, a less secure world, and created an ocean of mistrust between the US and the rest of the world.” “If they would like to continue launching war against the Muslim world, I don’t think this would do any good to the American image and the American cause,” the ambassador added.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:28 AM
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1. LOL not a chance with this incompetent SOB in office
the man simply cannot learn from his mistakes because he cannot admit to them
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:39 AM
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3. I totally agree with you
at the end of F 9/11, bush says fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't fool me again. He CAN NOT admit to being wrong, hence he doesn't say it correctly. Also, why does he throw reporters out of the white house who do not ask the questions he doesn't want asked? Because he is a control freak. Now if anybody stood up to him and called him on this, bush wouldn't have an answer for the question, so he would probably have a nervous break down on national tv and go back to the bottle. If he goes into Iran, Iraq will teach them some lessons on how to fight guerilla warfare style and destroy what is left of our beat up crippled army. Only a madman fights a war on 2 fronts, this sob try to fight a war on 3 fronts and i hope he and his cabinet gets removed for incompetency.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:04 AM
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4. He can't learn ... period.
He's completely incapable of it because learning requires a person to open their mind ... and he closes his mind to anything that doesn't support what he's already decided is true. :eyes:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:29 AM
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2. I certainly agree with that first paragraph.
US President George W Bush should learn from mistakes made in Iraq and not risk further damaging Washington’s standing in the world by attacking Iran, the Iranian ambassador to Britain said Thursday.

But he thinks he's talking to someone who cares.
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Mokkori Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:34 AM
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5. I have no doubt that the Bush administration has learned from its mistakes
They learned how to effectively destroy a country. When they attack Iran (or Syria, or whoever they decide to gun for next), they will be able to fight a much better organized ground war with all the experience Iraq gave them. That's about all they have learned--except maybe one more thing: I think the big lesson from Iraq is that when you announce that weapons of mass destruction will be found, it's important to smuggle some in, bury them, and "find" them.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 01:41 AM
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6. If Bush attacks Iran, he'll never eat lunch in Europe again
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:35 AM
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7. I really don't think Bush* wants to lunch in Europe...
I mean, this is a man who thinks a quiche is something Clinton did in the oval office.

"I'm impressed—que bueno. Now I'm literate in two languages." - George W. Bush, 25 May 2002 (in France!)
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:24 AM
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12. Well, as long as he can spread the peanut butter, oops, I mean
spread the democracy...
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 02:42 AM
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8. WTF is wrong with this country?
When Iran makes more sense than the USA?
I can't believe it.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:25 AM
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13. What's wrong with these 51% of the population who voted for Bush?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:30 AM
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18. Robert Frost said "Freedom lies in being bold!"
and the average citizen is cowardly....liberalism requires courage and sacrifice, something on the road to saintliness....i think God screwed up creating humans....mostly ok but why trigger fingers? 4 fingers works for the Simpsons....imagine freepers w/out trigger fingers! how would they scratch their arses!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:00 AM
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9. I think Bush learned that he doesn't really need a reason to attack
Between a compliant media, vote rigging and troglydite voters in parts of the U.S., he can manufacture a consensus for war any time he wants. He doesn't even need a pretext like WMD anymore. He will just keep repeating the words "freedom", "terror", and "values".

By dispensing with an actual reason for war, he eliminates the awkward bit about being caught up in lies. The world sees through this now, and their will be a growing resistance, but it may take some time. Who knows what hell BFEE will put us through by the time it is over?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 05:21 AM
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10. bushies learn from mistakes?
not likely.

Tony Blair recently said "...evolution comes from experience.." in reference to bush*'s foreign policy of YEEE-HAAWW... well, I don't think bush* believes in evolution

When asked about the phantom WMD's in Iraq (the reason we invaded Iraq in the first place) -- bush*'s response was "OOOPS"

When asked about insurgency in Iraq -- Cheney responded by blaming it on Saddam and then with a cavalier-oh-well attitude said "..chalk it up to a miscalculation..."

does this sound like the bushies have learned from mistakes?

OOOPS is something you say when you drop an egg on the floor --- NOT when you invade a country

chalking something up to a miscalculation is when you measured and cut a piece of wood wrong --- not when it results in close to 1,400 dead US troops, over 8,000 wounded, and unknown Iraqi's dead or wounded.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:05 AM
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11. Interminable warfare is the goose that laid the golden egg...
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 10:07 AM by teryang
...for the so called "free trade" globalists who have destroyed the American industrial base. No longer competitive economically and facing a huge financial crisis, the ruling elites seek to fix the hemmorhaging balance sheets by seizing resources and capturing markets. This is colonialism not free trade. The failing free trader who destroyed American industry and labor markets only has the mostly superfluous, government subsidized, military industrial complex to rely on for a profit. The failing free trader becomes a booty seeking conquistator.

Ultimately, colonialism costs much more in the aggregate than the money it makes for its promotors and benefactors. The costs are borne by the people who are asked to make more "sacrifices" as if the decline in our standard of living for the past decades wasn't enough. Meanwhile, the war mongers attend seminars and balls and play golf while we are hard at work and their victims are slaughtering each other. At the same time, an enormous transfer of wealth is taking place from the bottom to the top with more schemes planned to accomplish the same.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:55 AM
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14. There's a phrase from a song that comes to my mind.........
When will we ever learn..."?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 10:56 AM
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15. America to learn from history?
Uh...ok

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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:02 AM
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16. "Is our children learning?"
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:09 AM
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17. Tension, instability, less secure world: precisely what the neoCONimperial
regime wanted to create. In so doing, they are able to conquer then rule the world they intentionally divided. After all, creating chaos is their calling-card.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 12:29 PM
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19. I wonder how we would react
if some country decided our nuclea program was a danger to the world and threatened to attack us?

As for Iran. ** has been beating the drums of terra and human rights and nuclear threat for some time now. I shudder to think what will happen because ** "makes no mistakes about it" .
God, I can't stand this administration..
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