Ultra-secret troops poised at inaugural

[seemslikeadream]

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These commandos, operating under a secret counterterrorism program code-named Power Geyser, were mentioned publicly for the first time last week on a Web site for a new book, "Code Names: Deciphering U.S. Military Plans, Programs and Operation in the 9/11 World," by William Arkin, a former Army intelligence analyst.

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The special-missions units belong to the Joint Special Operations Command, a highly secretive command based at Fort Bragg, N.C., whose elements include the Army's Delta Force. In the past, the command has also provided support to domestic law-enforcement agencies during high-risk events like the Olympics and political party conventions, according to the Web site of GlobalSecurity.org, a research organization in Alexandria, Va.

The role of the armed forces in the United States has been a contentious issue for more than a century. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which restricts military forces from performing domestic law enforcement duties, like policing, was enacted after the Civil War in response to the perceived misuse of federal troops who were charged with policing in the South.

Over the years, the law has been amended to allow the military to lend equipment to federal, state and local authorities, assist federal agencies in drug-interdiction work, protect national parks and execute quarantine and certain health laws. About 5,000 federal troops supported civilian agencies at the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City three years ago.

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The commandos in Washington last week were the same type of special-ops forces that are hunting top insurgents in Iraq and Osama bin Laden in the wilds of the Afghan-Pakistan border. But under the top-secret military plan, they are also conducting counter-terrorism missions in support of civilian agencies on U.S. soil.
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http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5200163.html

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Geheimestaatspolizei?

[Fridays Child]

2. Had to go and look that one up!

Yep, it seems that's what they are. Scary, huh?

[Sal Minella]

3. Vas ist das?

You wouldn't care to give us the translation, would you?

[sweetheart]

4. herez a link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. So here's what Wikipedia says:

"The Gestapo was established on April 26, 1933 in Prussia. With members recruited from professional police departments, its role as a political police force was quickly established by Hermann Göring after Adolf Hitler gained power in March 1933. Rudolf Diels was the first head of the organization, initially called "Department 1A of the Prussian State Police".

The role of the Gestapo was to investigate and combat "all tendencies dangerous to the State." It had the authority to investigate treason, espionage and sabotage cases, and cases of criminal attacks on the Nazi Party and on Germany.

The law had been changed in such a way that the Gestapo's actions were not subject to judicial review. The Nazi jurist, Dr. Werner Best, stated, "As long as the ... carries out the will of the leadership, it is acting legally." The Gestapo was specifically exempted from being responsible to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws.

The power of the Gestapo most open to misuse was Schutzhaft, or "protective custody" — a euphemism for the power to imprison people without judicial proceedings, typically in concentration camps. The person imprisoned even had to sign his or her own Schutzhaftbefehl, the document declaring that the person desired to be imprisoned. Normally this signature was forced by beatings and torture."

Sound familiar?

[baby_bear]

7. yikes, that sent chills down my spine

An awful lot of Republicans and others in the U.S. seem to have bought into the notion that the state needs to be protected from people, instead of the founding principle that the people need to be protected from the state.

It sure happened fast. Bush would have had a hard time pulling it off without 9/11. Makes one think.

b_b

[Eloriel]

10. chills for you, heavy heart and sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach

and I think my shoulders drooped to my waist.

We are in such trouble.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Secret State Police.

More commonly known by their acronym, Gestapo.

[latteromden]

8. Möglicherweise, die Geheimestaatspolizei in USA?!

*shudder*

("Maybe, the Gestapo in the USA?!")

[leveymg]

18. More Akin to Speznetz than Stassi, One Hopes

[glitch]

9. How proud they must be to be carrying on such a fine tradition.

(heavy sarcasm)

[notadmblnd]

11. Are they military or are they

mercenaries contracted to the pentagon?

[ausiedownunderground]

12. I don't think it matters how ultra ultra secret they are!

US Special Ops forces no matter how ultra secret they are, are not very highly regarded by other Special Ops forces around the world. Hollywood might like people to think these people are more than humans but their not. OZ Special Forces reckon their a JOKE! Iraqi Guerrillas have kicked their arse and Iranian special ops are already hunting them down in Iran. As for finding OBL, they've got no chance. But "The Bush Gang" think because their Ultra Ultra secret they must be good LOL!

[Virginia Dem]

13. oh come on people

they aren't the gestapo or anything like them.

WHEN are we gonna quit playing these little conspiracy games and start putting forth a platform to regain Washington?

Or is this party no longer capable of putting an issues capable platform together?

[MGKrebs]

14. Let's see, US citizens "arrested" on US soil,

taken to an undisclosed location, held indefinitely, not charged with anything, not allowed to meet with a lawyer.

Not sure what else is needed to be concerned.

And by the way, we can do BOTH. Have conspiracy theories and take Washington back. We're big tent!

[Lerkfish]

23. not all theories are wrong.

besides, this isn't a theory...its fact...or did you not read the article?

edit: sorry this was supposed to go under another post.

[ima_sinnic]

15. when are "we" gonna quit playing these "little conspiracy games"?

"issues platform"?

right.

[genieroze]

19. Sig Heil. eom

[enki23]

21. some of us regular non-conspiracy people....

don't like the idea of the military used to police us at all, much less secretly. go fucking figure.

[saigon68]

22. Are you here to throw a bomb

and then duck out? Or what?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

24. Conspiracy theory? Gestapo?

The post you responded to said nothing except question their EFFECTIVENESS. And what does it have to do with "issues capable platform?"

Edit: typos

[0007]

16. In Germany during Hitler's regime

"Reprisals did come in response to the protests. Fearful of an internal overthrow, the forces of Himmler and the Gestapo were unleashed on the opposition. The first five months of 1943 witnessed thousands of arrests and executions as the Gestapo exercised a severity hitherto unseen by the German public."

Is this what the American citizen can look forward too during junior's regime? We all know how junior loves to get even!

[sattahipdeep]

17. Spicer's group is supposed to coordinate them all?

Rumsfeld to review the Spicer deal. :eyes:



Major Gary Tallman, a spokesperson for the U.S. Army, explained
that the contract was to create an "integrator" or coordination
hub for the security operation for every single reconstruction
contractor and sub-contractor.
"Their job is to disseminate information and provide guidance and
coordination.... http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11350

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Tim_Spicer

[Southern Dem 2005]

20. Agree with Virginia Dem

Everyone needs to take a reality pill. These CIA killed Kennedy and now they are after me posts are getting boring.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

25. Virginia Dem, as we say in Brazil, is...

"looking for horns on a horse's head." See my response.

[sattahipdeep]

26. Excessive Secrecy: Topic of Event Jan. 26

WASHINGTON -- January 25 -- An event this Wednesday will feature groups including the
Project On Government Oversight (POGO) that support a challenge to the excessive
secrecy imposed over the case of FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds media advisory
follows. A statement that will be made at the event by Danielle Brian, Executive Director of
POGO, follows.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0125-08.htm


Wonder if the Taleban told Bush the exact date and time and airlines?

[seemslikeadream]

27. Thanks sattahipdeep

Raven


What you got what you got in your hand? - a father said to son
I got the whole world here Daddy between my fingers and my thumb
Well you take care of it please - it’s the only one
Well it would take me a lifetime old man to undo what you’ve done
To undo what you’ve done

Oh come on now boy think what would Jesus do?
He shake his head like an angry mother - spoke the boy and say I did what I could do
But you take care of it please – it’s the only one you got
And it’d take ten lifetimes boy to undo what I’ve done

Boy shrugged walked away
The man stood and watched as he was leaving
Boy just walked away
The man stood alone thinking

One hand is bleeding and the other hand holds a gun
While everything is open everything is shut down, down, down
Begin to ending is really just a go round and round and round
As I stand here - the ground beneath is nothing more than one point of view

What you got what you got in your hand? Your secret’s safe with me
Well I found the truth friend let me whisper in your ear
Take good care of it please - it’s the only one there is
Can I twist it please can I give it just a little twist

Boy shrugged walked away
The man stood and watched as he was leaving
Boy just walked away
The man stood there twisting

One hand is bleeding and the other hand holds a gun
Everything is open now everything is shut down, down, down
No one is holding even if you even if your sure
You never know it all the ground beneath is nothing more than my point of view

Boy shrugged walked away
The man stood and watched as he was leaving
Boy just walked away
The man stood there twisting

One hand is open and the other hand holds the gun
Everything is open now is everything coming down, down, down
No one is hoping even if you even if you know
You never know it all - nothing more than, nothing more than my point of view

Boy shrugged walked away
The man stood and watched as he was leaving
The man stood there twisting

- Dave Matthews