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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:34 PM
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Cheney remembers Holocaust; works to keep Polish troops in Iraq
Cheney remembers Holocaust; works to keep Polish troops in Iraq

Associated Press
Published on: 01/26/05
KRAKOW, Poland — Vice President Dick Cheney hoped to shore up Polish support for the war in Iraq in meetings Wednesday with President Aleksander Kwasniewski.
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While some European nations have refrained from committing troops, Poland has been a trustworthy partner in the war in Iraq. However, Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski has said that he thinks Polish troops should stay in Iraq only until the end of this year.

Poland has taken command of a multinational security force in central Iraq that currently includes about 6,000 troops — among them more than 2,400 Polish soldiers. Leaders have previously said they hope to scale down the Polish presence significantly after elections in Iraq scheduled for Sunday. About 15 Polish troops have died in the conflict.
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"There is a joke going around the Polish Parliament: We buy F-16s and in return, we send troops to Iraq," Sikorski said. "You don't want to create the impression that being friends with the United States is a costly business."
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/0105/26auschwitzcheney.html?UrAuth=`N`NUOaNZUbTTUWUXUTUZTZU^UWU]U_UZUaU_UcTYWVVZV
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dxdem Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:37 PM
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1. You forgot Poland!
Oh wait...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:42 PM
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2. Cheney (fondly) remembers the holocaust, while he carries on one
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 12:44 PM by ixion
of his own in Iraq.

I can't believe the Polish people would support this, after what they went through at the hands of Hitler.


"Take them to the Danube at dawn. What? Oh, nothing. Just memories."

-- From Shock Treatment.



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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:48 PM
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3. Oh, please
Cheney voted AGAINST sanctions for white South Africa, AGAINST MLK holiday. What a humanitarian, what a mensch.
What a Putz.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:55 AM
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14. He's unknown all over the world for his heroic service to humanity.n/t
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:49 PM
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4. Wow....even "new" Europe seems to be jumping ship...
Where will our new partners come from?
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:57 PM
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5. "There is a joke" - um-m-m-m what kind of joke?
Wonder if Dickless will be meeting with Ambassador Victor Ashe to pass along any best wishes from bu$h*?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:59 PM
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6. Wow, count the ironies.
Now is Cheney trying diplomacy or does he have pictures of Poland in compromising postions with farm animals?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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7. kcik
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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8. Vice President Cheney Remembers Holocaust
Guardian
Thursday January 27, 2005 4:01 PM

By DEB RIECHMANN

Associated Press Writer

OSWIECIM, Poland (AP) - Joining in commemoration of the Holocaust, Vice President Dick Cheney declared Thursday that the mass murder that went unanswered until Nazi death camps were liberated 60 years ago is a reminder that evil must be faced down in the world today.

``The story of the camps remind us that evil is real and must be called by its name and must be confronted,'' Cheney said at a forum in Krakow, where he spoke before attending an anniversary program at the concentration camps here. ``We are reminded that anti-Semitism may begin with words but rarely stops with words and the message of intolerance and hatred must be opposed before it turns into acts of horror.''

While he didn't draw the comparison directly, the subtext of Cheney's message melded with the theme of President Bush's Inauguration Day speech about freedom versus tyranny as well as one of his previous State of the Union addresses when he called Iraq, North Korea and Iran the ``axis of evil.''

Within site of the ruins of crematoria, Cheney listened as dignitaries, including Russian President Vladimir Putin, and religious leaders from all faiths spoke solemnly about the massive deaths at Auschwitz and Birkenau, the larger of the two camps.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4760097,00.html
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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9. was he marching next to Ronnie Reagan
when they personally liberated Auschwitz? Oh, that's right, Reagan made that up, he never left southern California during the war.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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10. when I think human rights
I think Dick Cheney.

When I NEED to understand this topic, Dick Cheney is my go-to guy. I'm going to print out his words and keep them for future contemplation.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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11. maybe they'll name a street in Fallujah after him.
*through the looking glass*
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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12. You're correct, did you know if you look up "human rights" in the
encyclopedia you'll find a smirking Dick Cheney?
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Bugaboo Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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13. the West uses the holocaust...
Here's a really good commentary on the way the west uses the holocaust:

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This ritualized narrative is, arguably, composed of the following key characteristics: The Holocaust was a life-changing event in the history of mankind; nothing like it has happened before or since. The event itself was one of unspeakable and monstrous evil; those who perpetrated it were "evil." Britain and the United States, however, were not tarnished but strove to defeat the evil -- they were the "liberators." Jews -- victims and survivors -- are identifiable with the liberators, and, hence, with "ourselves." "Never again" must an atrocity of this sort be allowed to take place. The guarantee of our freedom against tyranny and atrocity lies with Western states whose value-system is built upon this fundamental principle.

The West had found its "right" atrocity for the contemporary age. One which, on the one hand, was safe because it was contained within a concretized and politically defused past. And, on the other hand, could be selectively wheeled out every time the government -- when taking on a Saddam Hussein, for instance -- wanted to have its actions on the world stage given a legitimating imprimatur.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/209312_holocaust.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=2
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:09 PM
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16. What can this possibly mean?
This is about the LAST thing you'd expect to hear from Cheney! (Truly, no one will ever forget his painstaking work against the civil rights movement.) From the article:
Cheney, wearing a heavy olive parka with a white fur-edged hood, sat between his wife, Lynne, and Israel's president, Moshe Katsav, who in his remarks, given in Hebrew, said, ``It seems as if we can still hear the dead crying out.''


Simply amazing! Is this evidence Cheney is a "channeler?"
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:57 AM
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15. anti-Semitism may begin with words
and the message of intolerance and hatred must be opposed before it turns into acts of horror. Anti-gay policies, however, are still highly encouraged.

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