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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:17 AM
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Rice: Iraqi Voting Exceeds Expectations (Kerry quotes)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20050130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq

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She also called insurgents "terrible thugs" who will not succeed in stopping voting and the progress of democracy in Iraq (news - web sites).


"Every indication is that the election in Iraq is going better than expected," Rice said on ABC's "This Week."


But Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), D-Mass., sounded a note of caution in an interview on NBC's "Meet The Press."


"It is hard to say that something is legitimate when whole portions of the country can't vote and doesn't vote," Kerry said.

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:19 AM
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1. Someone should tell Kerry that the election that mattered is over
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:22 AM
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2. Just in....
The Iraqi undecideds will determine the vote.:eyes:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:23 AM
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3. There was NO election in Iraq.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:25 AM
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4. It must be nice...you don't even have to show up to have your vote counted
Why don't you just announce who you picked Condisleazy, then we wouldn't have to endure this farce.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:32 AM
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5. Apparently, 7.2% of eligible voters voted.
Only 10% of eligible voters registered and 72% of the registered voters voted. That amounts to approxatimately 7 out of 100 Iraqis voting.

Not terribly impressive.

Moreover, the so called "vote" was really more akin to a lottery because it included 7,000 unnamed candidates.

Ridiculous.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:53 AM
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10. I don't think I've seen any %s cited of
eligible Iraqis in Iraq that registered to vote.

The 10% is for Iraqis in the US; it was 20% in other countries.

?? for Iraqis in Iraq.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:17 PM
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12. If it was merely 10%, imagine how low it must've been in Iraq.
We may be looking at an incredibly small overall turnout,...something even less than the 7% in the U.S.

Such a percentage could hardly be touted as a democratic event to be celebrated. Moreover, the fact that the few who did vote, voted for unnamed candidates,...just boggles the mind when the "talking points" are spewed that this process is some kind of "exercise of democracy".

Sheez. :eyes:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:21 PM
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14. Akbar: I'm voting for candidate #3423...
Aziz: Why that person?

Akbar: Oh it's a person? I thought it was a lottery...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:32 AM
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6. Dupe n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 10:33 AM by Just Me
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kris10ep Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:19 AM
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7. last chance?
"What the administration does in these next few days will decide the outcome of Iraq. And this is — not may be — this is the last chance for the president to get it right," Kerry said.

There have been entirely too many chances granted by the American people. In my view, W. will not be able to get it right. This is why we needed an administration change.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:50 AM
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9. Kerry's Iraq position remains delusional.
He has not accepted that the entire premise of the war was wrong, that our iraq-attack was not about wmd, was not about freemon and moxy, was not about anything other than the permanent occupation of the mesopotamian oil fields. Either that or he is just another lying sack of shit apologist for the imperialist neoclown messianic monsters in power.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:09 PM
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11. Ah
You got it right.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:22 PM
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15. Bush's position on Iraq is not only delusional but destructive and evil.
Perhaps, Kerry is guilty of hoping for the best for the Iraqi people.

However, Bush & the neoCONimperialists are the ones who delivered mass destruction of life and treasure in order to profit their cronies and IMPOSE an ideology that fails to measure human advances and serves to concentrate power in the hands of a few.

Bush & the neoCONimperialists are the ones who deserve your impunity and anger.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:15 PM
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17. excuse me
but Kerry continues to support the war. His criticism is on competence not objectives. He has yet to speak out against going to war, he has yet to call for our withdrawal from our illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq. Did Kerry start the war? No, he just voted for starting the war and continues to support the war to this very moment.

I kept my mouth shut about this when he was running for president, I will not keep my mouth shut about it any longer.

I have plenty of anger to go around. Kerry gets some of it until he wises up.

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:40 PM
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21. kerry and rice long winds with short memory..
neither shoud even speak about elections after last 11/02/04 and kerry non-loss/victory and possible complicity in fraud #2

But this is bushavakia whre villains smile and wear white hats and dissent is demonized{by the demonic}
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:29 AM
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8. The old "exceeded expectations" dodge
In reality, when this phrase is hauled out you know the thing was a failure. Note that they never say what the expectations being exceeded were.

"Losing the football game 72-3 exceeded expectations, as I didn't think our kicker could actually make a field goal. In that sense, it was a victory for us."
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:19 PM
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13. with 7000 people to chose from
the question I have is how long does it take a person to read these choices.especially if they were not known before the election?..perhaps these people just wrote in Saddams name?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:26 PM
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16. Wolfie is interviewing her now, and sure enough
she is preparing the US for a generational commitment to democratizing the entire Middle East as I type, just as the CATO Institute had said over a year ago.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:24 PM
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18. Iraqi election guide

<snip> When Iraqis voted Sunday, they ... chose one of the 111 "lists" that have been certified ... To choose a list, voters stepped behind a curtain, checked a box on a single ballot ... and then dropped the ballot into a plastic box. <snip>

Seats in the national assembly are distributed according to the proportion of votes each list receives. For example, if list "X" gets 32 percent of the vote, then that list is entitled to 32 percent of the assembly's 275 seats, which is 88 seats. To fill those seats, list "X" would put forward the first 88 names on its list. <snip>

In practice, this will probably lead to a legislature in which both Shiite Arabs and Kurds take seats in proportion beyond their national numbers In the short term, this will enhance Sunni fears about their place in the emerging society. Since the insurgency is led mostly by Sunni Arabs, this could lead to more violence. <snip>

Most foreign observers have decided to watch the election from Amman, Jordan. <snip>

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0128/p10s02-woiqb.html
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TerdlowSmedley Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:26 PM
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19. You should know that they will declare success the moment that
the number of votes cast exceed the number of candidates on the ballot. It's inevitable.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:26 PM
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20. This woman belongs in professional wrestling
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