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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:08 PM
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Need storm plywood??? It is in Iraq.
<http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/118294p-106645c.html

Need storm plywood??? It is in Iraq.

>The word among suppliers was that the shortage and the skyrocketing prices had been triggered by a single order for 21 million square feet placed by the military for operations in Iraq.

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mrsteve Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:10 PM
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1. But according to many sources

The US forces in Iraq are not getting any structures built because the contracters haven't shown up.

So why again are the prices way up? Can you say "gouging". I knew you could.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:11 PM
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2. I Like The last LIne.
"If we're sending plywood to Iraq, at least they could send us sand," somebody suggested.

"They got a lot of sand," Joel Karol said. "That would be good."

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:13 PM
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3. Plywood or OSB?
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:15 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
Big difference: (look under "Market Rap" near bottom)

"Osb has earned its reputation as a low-cost substitute for plywood. In fact, recent price quotes from Denver, Boston and Atlanta put 7/16-inch osb $3.00 to as much as $5.00 per sheet lower than 1/2-inch cdx plywood..."

http://www.umass.edu/bmatwt/publications/articles/osb_vs_plywood.html
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:35 PM
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4. LBN?
This story is weeks old.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:51 PM
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5. How so? Isabel's only been a story since the weekend. nt
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:58 PM
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6. The actual wood story might be old.... this link is not.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:59 PM by doxieone
The impact of expensive plywood or no plywood is an issue for those in the path of the storm who want to safeguard their homes.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:00 PM
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7. Weeks old? Didn't you even bother read the story?
On the bottom of the article:

"Originally published on September 17, 2003"
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:15 PM
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10. OK,OK
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 04:19 PM by Ernesto
Yes some master of the obvious made the connection: Iraq demand= high prices for storm protection. The fact is that the construction industry has known about the high prices for weeks. ....... EXCUUUUSSSSEEEE me.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:07 PM
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8. They are looking for new Mods.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 04:08 PM by MGKrebs
You might think about applying! I'm not being sarcastic. If you are interested in monitoring the rules, being a Mod is an excellent experience, and one learns a lot about what goes in to running this place.Go for it!

on edit: Have I been out of touch? Are they still asking for volunteers? (I've been busy.)
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:08 PM
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9. Well, that's OK, that's where the National Guard is too.
I'm sure they can just pull double duty in North Carolina and Iraq though, no problem.
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:16 PM
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11. Thank God I only need drywall. :)
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:18 PM
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12. military purchases for iraq are a bogus explanation
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 04:19 PM by treepig
for the current plywood shortage:

http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.cfm/ID/407099

The real reasons for the crunch, according to those in the industry, are bad weather, forest fires and market price swings.

According to Random Lengths, a lumber and plywood industry newsletter based in Eugene, Ore., the Defense Supply Center two months ago ordered 766,498 sheets of plywood for Iraq. The materials will be used to rebuild schools, hospitals and offices. The supply center also ordered 320 carloads of 2-by-4, 2-by-6 and 2-by-8 boards for shipment to Iraq. A railroad carload is approximately 132,000 square feet of lumber.


To an industry that produces 40 billion square feet of plywood annually, the carloads heading to Iraq mean little.


"That's just a drop in the bucket compared to the overall market,"
said David Flanagan, president of Viking Lumber Co., last week. "That percent-


age of impact based on what is produced every day is negligible."

add in bush's tariff's that have shut down british columbia's softwood forest industry in order to drive up prices to benefit his big u.s. forest industry contributors, and you have a real problem.
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