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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:27 AM
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Report Links Brooklyn Mosque to Saudi Hate Material
Something strange going on here- "The Center For Religious Freedom" lists James Woolsey as Chair on their board of advisors. No surprise to see this in this conservative sheet, but why is Mr Wheels Within Wheels going head to head with the Saudis right now?

Just three miles from the site of the World Trade Center, the government of Saudi Arabia is distributing hate materials expounding an extremist Wahhabi ideology, according to a new report by the Center for Religious Freedom.

The Washington-based center is part of Freedom House, America's oldest human-rights organization. While the group typically monitors the state of religious freedom under oppressive regimes abroad, the center has just concluded a year-long study of 200 documents that it said were collected in more than a dozen mosques across America, bear the seal of the Saudi government, and spread hateful indoctrination. The group called the propaganda a violation of Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
...
The Saudi-produced and -distributed materials denounce democracy - and democratic America - as un-Islamic. Ms. Shea said the materials are directed toward recent immigrants. According to the report, Muslim newcomers are told that, while in America, they should think of themselves as operating behind enemy lines and should use their time in America either to acquire information and resources for jihad or to convert the infidels to Islam.
...
"It's political propaganda as much as it is religious," Ms. Shea explained. "We have to confront it in our bilateral relations with Saudi Arabia - at the highest levels of government, we have to tell the Saudis, 'No more.'"

http://www.nysun.com/article/8445

Ctr For Relig. Freedom board
http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/about/index.htm
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:44 AM
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1.  NEW REPORT ON SAUDI GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS IN U.S.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 11:02 AM by IanDB1
whileCWhileAwhileShouldHeCHeCheChatGreetingsigrantcateeingalitariannreedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-01-28.htm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Elyse Bauer, (202) 296-5101 ext. 136 or Michael Goldfarb, (212) 514-8040 ext. 12
NEW REPORT ON SAUDI GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS IN U.S.

WASHINGTON, DC, January 28, 2005- Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom released today a new report exposing the dissemination of hate propaganda in America by the government of Saudi Arabia.

The 89-page report, “Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques,” is based on a year-long study of over two hundred original documents, all disseminated, published or otherwise generated by the government of Saudi Arabia and collected from more than a dozen mosques in the United States.

The propagation of hate ideology by Saudi Arabia is known to be worldwide, but its occurrence within the United States has received scant attention until now. Within worldwide Sunni Islam, followers of Saudi Arabia’s extremist Wahhabi ideology are a distinct minority, as is evident by the millions of Muslims who have chosen to make America their home and are upstanding, law-abiding citizens and neighbors.

The report concludes that the Saudi government propaganda examined reflects a “totalitarian ideology of hatred that can incite to violence,” and the fact that it is “being mainstreamed within our borders through the efforts of a foreign government, namely Saudi Arabia, demands our urgent attention.” The report finds: “Not only does the government of Saudi Arabia not have a right – under the First Amendment or any other legal document – to spread hate ideology within U.S. borders, it is committing a human rights violation by doing so.”

Such publications that “advocate an ideology of hatred have no place in a nation founded on religious freedom and toleration,” write James Woolsey, chairman of the board of Freedom House, in the foreword to the report.

Among the key findings of the report:

· Various Saudi government publications gathered for this study, most of which are in Arabic, assert that it is a religious obligation for Muslims to hate Christians and Jews and warn against imitating, befriending, or helping them in any way, or taking part in their festivities and celebrations;

· The documents promote contempt for the United States because it is ruled by legislated civil law rather than by totalitarian Wahhabi-style Islamic law. They condemn democracy as un-Islamic;

· The documents stress that when Muslims are in the lands of the unbelievers, they must behave as if on a mission behind enemy lines. Either they are there to acquire new knowledge and make money to be later employed in the jihad against the infidels, or they are there to proselytize the infidels until at least some convert to Islam. Any other reason for lingering among the unbelievers in their lands is illegitimate, and unless a Muslim leaves as quickly as possible, he or she is not a true Muslim and so too must be condemned.

For example, a document in the collection for the “Immigrant Muslim” bears the words “Greetings from the Cultural Attache in Washington, D.C.” of the Embassy of Saudi Arabia, and is published by the government of Saudi Arabia. In an authoritative religious voice, it gives detailed instructions on how to “hate” the Christian and Jew: Never greet them first. Never congratulate the infidel on his holiday. Never imitate the infidel. Do not become a naturalized citizen of the United States. Do not wear a graduation gown because this imitates the infidel;

· One insidious aspect of the Saudi propaganda examined is its aim to replace traditional and moderate interpretations of Islam with extremist Wahhabism, the officially-established religion of Saudi Arabia. In these documents, other Muslims, especially those who advocate tolerance, are condemned as infidels. The opening fatwa in one Saudi embassy-distributed book, published by the Saudi Air Force, responds to a question about a Muslim preacher in a European mosque who taught that it is not right to condemn Jews and Christians as infidels. The Saudi state cleric’s reply rebukes the Muslim cleric: “He who casts doubts about their infidelity leaves no doubt about his.” Since, under Saudi law, “apostates” from Islam can be sentenced to death, this is an implied death threat against the tolerant Muslim imam, as well as an incitement to vigilante violence;

· Sufi and Shiite Muslims are viciously condemned;

· For a Muslim who fails to uphold the Saudi Wahhabi sect’s sexual mores (i.e. through homosexual activity or heterosexual activity outside of marriage), the edicts published by the Saudi government’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, and found in American mosques advise, “it would be lawful for Muslims to spill his blood and to take his money;”

· Regarding those who convert out of Islam, the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs explicitly asserts, they “should be killed;”

· Saudi textbooks and other publications in the collection, propagate a Nazi-like hatred for Jews, treat the forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion as historical fact, and avow that the Muslim’s duty is to eliminate the state of Israel;

· Regarding women, the Saudi publications instruct that they should be veiled, segregated from men and barred from certain employment and roles;

The report states: “While the government of Saudi Arabia claims to be ‘updating’ or reforming its textbooks and study materials within the Kingdom, its publications propagating an ideology of hatred remain plentiful in some prominent American mosques and Islamic centers, and continue to be a principal resource available to students of Islam within the United States.”

The research, translation and principle analysis of the materials for the report were carried out by both Muslims and non-Muslims who wish to remain anonymous for reasons of security. Some 90 percent of the publications are in Arabic; two independent translators reviewed each Arabic document. This project was undertaken after many Muslims requested the Center’s help in exposing Saudi extremism in the hope of freeing their communities from ideological strangulation.

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On edit:
You know, there are LIMITS to just how "liberal" I can possibly be.

I will never speak-out in favor of tolerance for Muslims ever again.

They are NOT a mis-understood religion of compassion.

So long as NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM CLERIC is in favor of gay rights can they POSSIBLY lay claim to any pretense of tolerance or compassion.

AND NOW THIS!?!?!?!

How many Saudi citizens have read this material? And how many have reported it to authorities?

WE SHOULD DEPORT EVERY SAUDI NATIONAL WHO HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THIS MATERIAL AND FAILED TO REPORT IT!

Who in the American government knew about this before Freedom House released their report???

Would you call these documents a "series of actionable items" or a "plan"?

HOW LONG WAS THIS STUFF SITTING ON CONDI'S DESK??????????????
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:34 AM
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2. Do you have a link to this please?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:15 PM
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3. Sorry, link coming up
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 12:20 PM by IanDB1
http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-01-28.htm

Somehow it got munged in the original post.


More:
Iraq's Christians Disenfranchised at Home and in US
ChristianityToday.com - 50 minutes ago
... an eligible voter is broader than the State Department's definition of an Iraqi, says Nina Shea, director of the Center for Religious Freedom at Freedom House. ..
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/105/13.0.html

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Report Links Brooklyn Mosque to Saudi Hate Material
New York Sun (subscription), NY - 7 hours ago
... for Religious Freedom. The Washington-based center is part of Freedom House, America's oldest human-rights organization. While the ...
http://www.nysun.com/article/8445

Muslim Apostasy: When Silence Isn't Golden
Frontpagemag.com - 8 hours ago
... Paul Marshall, a senior fellow at Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom, told me in an interview that he knows of at least a dozen cases in the past ...
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16829

Saudi Arabia spreading 'hate propaganda' in America: US group:
New Kerala, India - Jan 30, 2005
... violation," Nina Shea, editor of the 89-page report, titled "Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques", compiled by Freedom House's Centre for ...
http://news.newkerala.com/india-news/?action=fullnews&id=66936

Each Vote Strikes at Terror
Los Angeles Times (subscription), CA - Jan 30, 2005
... Whatever the effect on terrorism, democracy continues to spread. The best statistics come from Freedom House, a human rights organization based in New York. ...
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-op-democracy30jan30,0,2880536.story?coll=la-sunday-commentary

Freedom's reach extends beyond politics
The News-Press, FL - Jan 29, 2005
... Crown Prince Abdullah, who rules one of the eight most repressive countries in the world (according to Freedom House), is one of a handful of leaders to have ...
http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050130/OPINION/501300449/1075

The UN's PR coup
Israel Insider, Israel - Jan 29, 2005
... day, the democratic state of Israel was not the most reviled member of the UN (less than half of whose members can be called "free" according to Freedom House ...
http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/4897.htm

Behind enemy lines
Power Line, MN - Jan 29, 2005
... Muslims living in the United States to "behave as if on a mission behind enemy lines," says an 89-page report released by the Human Rights Group Freedom House. ...
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009366.php

Report: Saudi's Disseminating Propaganda Through American Mosques
Watchman Herald, TX - Jan 29, 2005
The 89-page report by Freedom House's Center for Religious Freedom, "Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques," concludes the Saudi government ...
http://www.texaspanhandleplains.com/newspaper/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=483&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Saudi literature urges hatred of US
Big News Network.com, Australia - Jan 29, 2005
... The report by the human rights group Freedom House -- headed by President Bill Clinton's former CIA director, James Woolsey -- is titled Saudi Publications on ...
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?rid=1483a55ddbd7db2a&cat=b8de8e630faf3631

Group cites Saudi 'hate' tracts circulated in US
World Peace Herald, DC - Jan 29, 2005
... Muslims living in the United States to "behave as if on a mission behind enemy lines," says an 89-page report released by the Human Rights Group Freedom House. ...
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050129-074115-9049r

New Report On Saudi Government Publications In US
AINA, CA - Jan 28, 2005
WASHINGTON, DC -- Freedom House's Center for Religious Freedom released today a new report exposing the dissemination of hate propaganda in America by the ...
http://www.aina.org/news/2005012895352.htm


The Speech Heard 'Round The World
BushCountry - Jan 26, 2005
... As the world stands today, there are 119 electoral democracies--89 free and 30 partly free-- of the world's 192 states, according to Freedom House.org, the ...
http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/vincent-fiore/c_012605_vincent-fiore_speech_world.htm



Google News Search:
http://news.google.com/news?q=%22+Freedom+House%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:35 PM
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5. All of your links refer to this report by Freedom House. Do you know
much about the organization? Not saying it is or isn't some type of propaganda - I've just become very leery about everything these days.:shrug:

I took a quick look at their website and contributors.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/aboutfh/index.htm
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:51 PM
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6. Woolsey, repub ex-CIA head and PNAC signatory chairs the board
http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/about/index.htm

He isn't to be trusted. There will be a tactical reason for this report.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:25 PM
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9. Thanks Rose Siding. I found a bit more here, though somewhat
dated: Doesn't look very trustworthy.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/groupwatch/freehous.php
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:59 PM
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7. Freedom House
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 01:02 PM by IanDB1
Freedom House is a clear voice for democracy and freedom around the world. Founded over sixty years ago by Eleanor Roosevelt, Wendell Willkie, and other Americans concerned with the mounting threats to peace and democracy, Freedom House has been a vigorous proponent of democratic values and a steadfast opponent of dictatorships of the far left and the far right.

Non-partisan and broad-based, Freedom House is led by a Board of Trustees composed of leading Democrats, Republicans, and independents; business and labor leaders; former senior government officials; scholars; writers; and journalists. All are united in the view that American leadership in international affairs is essential to the cause of human rights and freedom.

Over the years, Freedom House has been at the center of the struggle for freedom. It was an outspoken advocate of the Marshall Plan and NATO in the 1940s, of the U.S. civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s, of the Vietnam boat people in the 1970s, of Poland's Solidarity movement and the Filipino democratic opposition in the 1980s, and of the many democracies that have emerged around the world in the 1990s.

Freedom House has vigorously opposed dictatorships in Central America and Chile, apartheid in South Africa, the suppression of the Prague Spring, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, genocide in Bosnia and Rwanda, and the brutal violation of human rights in Cuba, Burma, China, and Iraq.

It has championed the rights of democratic activists, religious believers, trade unionists, journalists, and proponents of free markets. In 1997, a consolidation took place whereby the international democratization training programs of the National Forum Foundation were incorporated into Freedom House.

Today, Freedom House is a leading advocate of the world's young democracies, which are coping with the debilitating legacy of statism, dictatorship, and political repression. It conducts an array of U.S. and overseas research, advocacy, education, and training initiatives that promote human rights, democracy, free market economics, the rule of law, independent media, and U.S. engagement in international affairs.

Freedom House is a non-profit, nonpartisan organization that relies upon tax-deductible grants and donations under Section 501(c)(3) of the IRS code. Major support has been provided by:

Contributors include:

The Soros Foundations

I don't know much about the other foundations, except that some of them are under-writers for PBS.

The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
The Byrne Foundation
The Carthage Foundation
The Eurasia Foundation
The Ford Foundation
The Freedom Forum
Grace Foundation, Inc.
Lilly Endowment, Inc.
The LWH Family Foundation
National Endowment for Democracy
The Pew Charitable Trusts
Sarah Scaife Foundation
The Schloss Family Foundation
Smith Richardson Foundation, Inc.
The Soros Foundations
The Tinker Foundation
Unilever United States Foundation, Inc.
US Agency for International Development
US Information Agency
Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
Whirlpool
U.S. Steel

ON EDIT:
I should add that I am not very familiar with Freedom House.
If someone has dis-confirmatory evidence (can discredit this report) I am open to having my mind changed.


On further edit:
This would be pretty hard for them to lie about. I mean, either they have the documents or they don't.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:22 PM
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4. How could this be allowed to go "un-discovered" by our government?



House of Bush, House of Saud begins with a single question: How is it that two days after September 11, 2001, even as American air traffic was tightly restricted, a Saudi billionaire socialized in the White House with President George W. Bush as 140 Saudi citizens, many immediate kin to Osama Bin Laden, were permitted to return to their country? A potential treasure trove of intelligence was allowed to flee the country-- including an alleged al-Qaeda intermediary who was said to have foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. Why did the FBI facilitate this evacuation, and why didn't the agency question the people on the planes? Why did Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of most of the hijackers, receive exclusive and preferential treatment from the White House even as the World Trade Center continued to burn?

Two Families, Deeply Entwined
The answers to these questions, and ones far more troubling, lie in the largely hidden relationship that began in the mid-1970s, when the oil-rich House of Saud struck out for America in the wake of the OPEC oil embargo and soaring oil prices. Saudi Arabia needed American military protection, access to American political power, and a place to invest its staggering cash flow, which within 5 years reached $16 million an hour. Like wildcatting oil drillers, the Saudis began prospecting among promising American politicians, including the Bush family. And with the Bushes, the Saudis hit a gusher- direct access to Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, as well as to Secretary of State James Baker, Vice-President Dick Cheney, and the entire U.S. intelligence apparatus.

A Dangerous Liaison
What followed was an amazing weave of influence, strategic investment, socializing, and secret policy between the House of Bush and the House of Saud that arcs from the 1980s into the present day. The two parties conferred on war, oil, funding for Osama bin Laden's Afghan Arabs supporting the mujahideen in the Afghanistan War, illegal arms deals, banking, private matters, and much more. By the time George W. Bush was elected, the House of Saud had transferred an astonishing sum of money to the House of Bush in deals involving dozens of companies. The total? At least $1.4 billion in investments and contracts went to companies in which the Bushes and their allies held prominent positions. But the importance of the relationship goes far beyond money. More than any other country in the world, Saudi Arabia is responsible for the rise of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism that threatens America. Horrifying as it may seem, the secret liaison between these two great families helped trigger the Age of Terror and give rise to the tragedy of 9/11.

More:
http://houseofbush.com/index.php
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:16 PM
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8. Hot accusations, but WHERE is the PROOF?
Hiding behind the Saudi "hijackers" who ARE STILL ALIVE?

Iraq is the tactical pivot;
Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot;
Egypt the prize.
-- Laurent Murawiec

"It's political propaganda as much as it is religious," Ms. Shea explained.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:40 PM
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10. This information is embarrassing to the Bush regime
From what I have just read, they're a generally conservative organization (the fact that Sorros supports them non-withstanding). They have major Republican / PNAC ties.

Condie cited Freedom House in her speech about the countries "that are not yet free." It looks like The Bush Regime likes these guys.

In which case, this latest report turns around and stabs Bush in the back by shining light on the (ok, I'll say "alleged") fact that Bush's allies have been openly recruiting terrorists in full view of our intelligence agencies.

I think that it does not serve Bush's interest for this information to come to light, and based on that I tend to give the allegations MORE credence, although I will admit I am not entirely convinced.

Right now, I AM EXTREMELY PISSED-OFF, so I will wait until tomorrow when I am calmed-down, and we have had a chance to figure out if this is legit, before I call my Congress-Critters to raise hell.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:43 PM
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11. OK, upon skimming, I found this troubling
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 01:48 PM by IanDB1
From:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/groupwatch/freehous.php

<snip>

Zbigniew Brzezinski is a counselor and trustee at the conservative think tank, the Center for Strategic and Intl Studies. (12) He is on the board of directors of the National Endowment for Democracy. (15) He is also honorary chairman of the AmeriCares Foundation. (26,27,35) AmeriCares has supported Nicaragua's La Prensa and has provided material aid and financial support to Nicaraguan refugees in Honduras. (22,28,29) In 1985, AmeriCares received substantial funding from the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund (set up by the Washington Times, owned by the Unification Church).

<snip>

Eugene Wigner, a theoretical physicist, is (or was) on the board of directors of the Committee on the Present Danger. (25) He is a member of the advisory board of Accuracy in Media and was a member of the advisory board of Western Goals Foundation. (36) Accuracy in Media also received some of the $400,000 raised through Charles Wick's efforts at the White House (see Govt Connections). (53) Wigner received a $200,000 "founder's award" from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon--head of the Unification Church--at the 1982 Intl Conference on the Unity of the Sciences (ICUS). ICUS is an offshoot of the Moon-funded Intl Cultural Foundation. (49)

<snip>

Elie Krakowski of the U.S. Defense Department contributed a chapter to a book on Afghanistan published by Freedom House (Afghanistan: The Great Game Revisited). In December 1987, he participated in a panel discussion on Afghanistan sponsored by the Heritage Foundation. (36)

Michael Warder--a former top associate of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon--wrote an article for the May 1987 Freedom at Issue criticizing the U.S. Justice Department's efforts to prosecute former Nazis who were living illegally in the United States. After leaving the Moon organization, Warder became Director of Administration at the Heritage Foundation. He later moved to the Rockford Institute. (36)
<snip>

More:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/groupwatch/freehous.php

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OK, I'm listening more carefully now.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:10 PM
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15. if they are alive, why hasn't Al-Jazeera blown our minds with interviews?
Why aren't they on Arab-TV, reducing Bush's story to swiss cheese?

I've seen the scattered articles with fellows with similar names, but what's stopping people from using a goddamn camcorder here?

why hasn't this story been chased down if its so important?

surely the entire arab world isn't interested in supporting Bush's version of events.

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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:50 PM
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12. This mosque has links to all kinds of bad characters going back
to the '80s, maybe further. I remember reading about it in Peter Lance's 1000 Years for Revenge.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:54 PM
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13. A .PDF copy of the whole report
The thing is 95 pages long.

Here's the link if someone wants to read it.

One thing that seems missing though are scanned copies of the original pamphlets.

http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/publications/Saudi%20Report/FINAL%20FINAL.pdf

However, if they don't have actual pamphlets and brochures in their possession, it would be a VERY lame (and short-lived) hoax.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:08 PM
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14. From the Freedom House Report: Methodology and Bibliography
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 02:14 PM by IanDB1
METHODOLOGY
Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom decided to undertake this project
after a number of Muslims and other experts publicly raised concerns about Saudi state
influence on American religious life.1 This report complements a May 2003
recommendation of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, an
independent government agency, that the U.S. government conduct a study on Saudi
involvement in propagating internationally a “religious ideology that explicitly promotes
hate, intolerance, and other human rights violations, and in some cases violence, toward
members of other religious groups, both Muslims and non-Muslims.” 2 In releasing this
report, the Center is also mindful of one of the key findings of the 9/11 Commission
Report: “Education that teaches tolerance, the dignity and value of each individual, and
respect for different beliefs is a key element in any global strategy to eliminate Islamist
terrorism.”
The phenomenon of Saudi hate ideology is worldwide, but its occurrence in the
United States has received scant attention. This report begins to probe in detail the
content of the Wahhabi ideology that the Saudi government has worked to propagate
through books and other publications within our borders.3 While substantial analysis has
been previously published on Saudi Wahhabism in other countries, few specifics have
been reported on the content of Wahhabi indoctrination within the United States. 4 Part
of the reason may be that the vast majority of the written materials are in Arabic. Also,
U.S. security investigations have focused on stopping money flows and curbing the
activities of individual extremists resulting in, among other actions, the recent expulsions
of dozens of religious teachers with Saudi diplomatic passports.5 Saudi officials argue
that they have changed their textbooks at home, something we have not sought to
confirm. We have ascertained that as of December 2004, Saudi-connected resources and
publications on extremist ideology remain common reading and educational material in
some of America’s main mosques.
In undertaking this study, we did not attempt a general survey of American
mosques. In order to document Saudi influence, the material for this report was gathered
from a selection of more than a dozen mosques and Islamic centers in American cities,
including Los Angeles, Oakland, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Washington, and New York.
In most cases, these sources are the most prominent and well-established mosques in their
areas. They have libraries and publication racks for mosque-goers. Some have full-or
part-time schools and, as the 9/11 Commission Report observed, such “Saudi-funded
Wahhabi schools are often the only Islamic schools.”6
The material collected consists of over 200 books and other publications, many of
which titles were available in several mosques. Some 90 percent of the publications are
in Arabic, though some are in English, Urdu, Chinese and Tagalog. With one exception,
2
an Urdu-language document, the materials for this study were in Arabic and English. The
Center had two independent translators review each Arabic document.
All the documents analyzed here have some connection to the government of
Saudi Arabia. In some instances, they have five connections. The publications under
study each have at least two of the following links to Saudi Arabia. They are:
• official publications of a government ministry;
• distributed by the Saudi embassy;
• comprised of religious pronouncements and commentary by religious
authorities appointed to state positions by the Saudi crown;
• representative of the established Wahhabi ideology of Saudi Arabia;
and/or
• disseminated through a mosque or center supported by the Saudi crown.
In many examples, the Saudi link is readily apparent from the seal or name
appearing on the cover of the publications of the Saudi Embassy in Washington, or of the
Saudi cultural, educational or religious affairs ministries, or of the Saudi Air Force.


While not all the mosques in the study may receive Saudi support, some of the mosques
and centers, such as the King Fahd Mosque in Los Angeles and the Islamic Center in
Washington, are openly acknowledged to receive official support by the Saudi king as
recorded on his website.7 While some observers distinguish between funding from the
Saudi state and donations made by individual members of the Saudi royal family, it
should be noted that King Fahd makes no such distinction. His website asserts, “King
Fahd gave his support, either personally or through his Government….” The website
also asserts that “the cost of King Fahd’s efforts in this field has been astronomical,
amounting to many billions of Saudi Riyals,” resulting in “some 210 Centers wholly or
partly financed by Saudi Arabia, more than 1,500 Mosques and 202 colleges and almost
2,000 schools for educating Muslim children.” The King and his son donated millions of
dollars to the King Fahd mosque.8
Furthermore, the Saudi government has directly staffed some of these institutions.
The King Fahd mosque, the main mosque in Los Angeles, from which several of these
publications were gathered, employed an imam, Fahad al Thumairy, who was an
accredited diplomat of the Saudi Arabian consulate from 1996 until 2003, when he was
barred from reentering the United States because of terrorist connections. The 9/11
Commission Report describes the imam as a “well-known figure at the King Fahd
mosque and within the Los Angeles Muslim community,” who was reputed to be an
“Islamic fundamentalist and a strict adherent to orthodox Wahhabi doctrine” and
observed that he “may have played a role in helping the <9/11> hijackers establish
themselves on their arrival in Los Angeles.”9

Several hate-filled publications in this study were also gathered from the Institute
of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in Fairfax, Virginia. According to investigative reports in
the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi
Ambassador to the U.S., served as chairman of this school’s Board of Trustees, and some
3
16 other personnel there held Saudi diplomatic visas until they were expelled for
extremism by the State Department in 2004.10



Until late 2003, the institute was an official
adjunct campus of the Imam Mohammed Ibn-Saud Islamic University in Riyadh, part of
Saudi Arabia’s state-run university system, funded and controlled by the Saudi Ministry
of Education.11 Although Saudi Arabia claims to have severed official links with it, the
Institute the Saudis established continues to operate in northern Virginia.
Some of the works were published by the Al-Haramain Foundation, run from
Saudi Arabia with branch offices in the United States until the FBI blocked its assets in
February 2004, finding that it was directly funding al Qaeda. In October 2004, the Saudi
government’s Ministry for Islamic Affairs dissolved the foundation, and, according to a
senior Saudi official, its assets will be folded into a new Saudi National Commission for
Charitable Work Abroad.
Some of the Wahhabi materials in this study were printed by publishers and
libraries functioning as publishing houses in Saudi Arabia. Some of these are directly
government-supported and-controlled, such as the King Fahd National Library and the
General Presidency of the Administration of Scientific Research, Ifta’, Da’wa and
Guidance (General Administration for Printing and Translation). Others, which may be
privately run, are monitored closely by the state, which does not grant the free right to
expression, and, according to the State Department, the government’s Ministry of
Information has the authority to appoint and remove all editors-in-chief.12
A prolific source of fatwas condemning “infidels” in this collection was Sheik
‘Abd al-‘Aziz Bin ‘Abdillah Bin Baz (died 1999), who was appointed by King Fahd in
1993 to the official post of Grand Mufti. As Grand Mufti, he was upheld by the
government of Saudi Arabia as its highest religious authority. Bin Baz was a government
appointee who received a regular government salary, served at the pleasure of the King
and presided over the Saudi Permanent Committee for Scientific Research and the
Issuing of Fatwas, an office of the Saudi government. His radically dichotomous mode of
thinking, coupled with his persistent demonizing of non-Muslims and tolerant Muslims,
runs through the fatwas in these publications.
Bin Baz is famously remembered by many Saudis for a ruling he issued in 1966
declaring the world flat. He was also responsible for the fatwa, unique in Islam, barring
Saudi women from driving.13 Perhaps as a way of atoning for a fatwa he reluctantly
issued in 1991 at the time of the Gulf War accepting the presence of non-Muslim troops
in Saudi Arabia, in subsequent years Bin Baz seemed to go out of his way to pronounce
against Christians, Jews, and “infidel” Westerners. His fatwas, which carry considerable
weight, have been circulated through official Saudi diplomatic channels to mosques and
schools throughout the world, including some in the United States, and have been
particularly influential in radicalizing Muslim youth at home and abroad. The extremist
views proclaimed in these official fatwas belie what Adel al-Jubeir, the articulate Saudi
spokesman and special advisor to Crown Prince Abdullah, asserts during televised press
conferences about fanatical sheiks in the Kingdom being mainly “underground,” and the
fatwas they issue being merely expressions of “their personal opinions.” Though Bin Baz
4
is now dead, his fanatical fatwas continue to be treated as authoritative by the Saudi
government.
The bulk of the material was collected in November and December 2003. In
December 2004, additional samples were collected from mosques in Washington, Falls
Church, Los Angeles, Orange County and Chicago showing that the problem continues as
this report goes to press. One of the documents from Saudi Arabia’s Islamic Affairs
Ministry bears the post-9/11 publication date of 2002, while most of the other titles were
published in the 1980s and 1990s. Notwithstanding the fact that some of the titles were
published by groups and entities that in the last two years have been shut down or have
broken ties with the Saudi government following U.S. government terrorism
investigations, and despite the Saudi government advertising campaign that their
textbooks are being revised, the offensive titles and similar publications remain widely
available in America, and in some cases dominate mosque library shelves, and continue
to be used to educate American Muslims.
Copies of the documents and their translations are kept on file at Freedom House.
A listing of the mosques and centers where these publications were found and a
bibliography of the documents analyzed in this report follow.



----------

BIBLIOGRAPHY

List of Sources
1. Islamic Center of America
215 North Oraton Parkway
East Orange, NJ 07017
School name: Madrasatu Ahlis Sunnah
previously known as The Islamic Day School
2. Daru-Al-Islah
320 Fabry Terrace
Teaneck, NJ 07666
3. Al-Farouq Masjid
552-4 Atlantic Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11217
4. The Islamic Center (of Washington, D.C.)
2551 Massachusetts NW
Washington, D.C. 20008
5. Masjid Al-Islam
5021 A Street SE
Washington, D.C. 20019
6. Dar Al-Hijra Islamic Center
3159 Row Street
Falls Church, VA 22044
7. All Dulles Area Muslim Society, Adams Center (Herndon Mosque)
500 Grove Street, P.O. Box 1085
Herndon, VA 22070
8. MCC (Muslim Community Center)
4380 N. Elston Avenue
Chicago, IL 60641
9. Richardson Mosque (Dallas)
840 Abrams Road
Richardson, TX. 75081
10. Islamic Society of Greater Houston, ISGH – North Zone
11815 Adel Road
Houston, TX 77067
78
11. Masjid Al-Farouq
1207 Conrad Sauer Drive
Houston, TX 77043
12. King Fahd Mosque (Los Angeles)
10980 Washington Boulevard
Culver City, CA 90232
13. Masjid Abu Bakr (aka Islamic Center of San Diego)
7050 Eckstrom Avenue
San Diego, CA 92111
14. Islamic Society of Orange County
9752 W 13th Street
Garden Grove, CA 92844
15. Islamic Center of Oakland (Oakland Islamic Center)
515 31st Street
Oakland, CA 94609
79
Appendices*
Document No. 2
Verdict Regarding Celebrating the Year 2000 and the Call for the of Unity Religions.
Riyadh: Permanent Committee for Scientific Research and the Issuing of Fatwas, 2000.
Collected from Masjid Abu Bakr, San Diego, CA, 12/10/03.
Document No. 32
Science of Tawheed (Unity). Riyadh: The General Presidency for Teaching Girls
1991. Collected from Masjid Al-Farouq, Houston TX, 12/15/03.
Document No. 36
Bin Baz, Sheik Abdul Alaziz. Religious Edicts. Riyadh: The Institution of Islamic
Affairs at the Saudi Embassy in Washington, D.C., 1989. Collected from Islamic
Center of America, East Orange, NJ, 12/14/03. Available from King Fahd Mosque,
Culver City, CA, 12/04/04.
Document No. 44
Religious Edicts for the Immigrant Muslim. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: Cultural Attaché in
Washington, no date. Collected from Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., Washington,
D.C., 12/12/03.

NOTES
1 Schwartz, Stephen, The Two Faces of Islam, Doubleday, New York, NY, 2002.; Baer, Robert, Sleeping
With the Devil, Crown Publishers, New York, NY, 2003. See also Mai Yamani’s talk at Freedom House
“State Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia: Impacts of a Religious Ideology of Intolerance and Hate,” 21 October
2004; Center for Democracy and Human Rights in Saudi Arabia, http://www.cdhr.info/; Saudi Institute,
http://www.saudiinstitute.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
2 U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, Report on Saudi Arabia, May 2003.
3 Saudi Institute, Report: Saudi School in Virginia Disparages Christianity and Judaism, Washington, 13
July 2004.
4 Abdella, Doumato and Posusney, Marsha Pripstein eds. Education in Saudi Arabia: Women and
Globalization in the Arab Middle East: Gender, Economy & Society, Lynne Rienner Publishers, London,
2003; Doumato, Eleanor Abdella, “Manning the Barricades: Islam According to Saudi Arabia’s School
Texts,” Middle East Journal Abstracts from The Middle East Journal, 57, No. 2, Spring 2003, pp. 230-248;
Michaela Prokop, "Saudi Arabia: The Politics of Education," International Affairs 79, No. 1, London,
2003, pp.77-89; Groiss, Amon, ed. Report: The West, Christians and Jews in Saudi Arabian Schoolbooks,
Center for Monitoring the Impact of Peace and the American Jewish Committee, February 2003; Steven
Stalinsky, "Preliminary Overview - Saudi Arabia's Education System: Curriculum, Spreading Saudi
Education to the World and Official Saudi Position on Education Policy," The Middle East Research Media
Institute (MEMRI), 20 December 2002; “An Egyptian Journalist on the Connection between Wahhabism
and Terrorism,” Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Special Dispatch Series- No. 526, 20
June 2003; “Somali Muslim Journalist on the Detrimental Effects of Wahhabism on His Country,” Middle
East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Special Dispatch Series- No. 625, 9 December 2003; “Ethipoian
Journalist on the Detrimental Effects of Saudi Arabia’s ‘Poisonous Wahhabism’ on His Country,” The
Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Special Dispatch Series- No. 624, 9 December 2003;
“Incitement to Jihad on Saudi Government-Controlled TV,” Middle East Media Research Institute
(MEMRI), Special Report- No. 29, 24 June 2004; “Saudi Armed Forces Journal on the Jews: ‘The
Fabricated Torah, Talmud, and Protocols of the Elders of Zion Command Destruction of All Non-Jews for
World Domination,” Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Special Dispatch Series- No. 768, 20
August, 2004; Pipes, Daniel, “The Need to Name and Know Thy Terrorists,” New York Post, 19 November
2002; Mirahmadi, Hedieh, “Sunni Disposition: The Moderates Should Be Our Friends,” National Review
Online, 7 May 2004; Marshall, Paul, "Radical Islam's Move on Africa," Washington Post, 16 October
2003; Marshall, Paul, " Radical Islam in Nigeria: The Talibanization of West Africa," The Weekly
Standard, 15 April 2002; Marshall, Paul, "The Next Hotbed Of Islamic Radicalism," Washington Post, 8
October 2002; Marshall, Paul, "No Fizzle Sharia thrives (and preys) in Nigeria," National Review Online, 3
February 2004.
5 Ottoway, David, “U.S. Eyes Money Trails of Saudi-Backed Charities,” Washington Post, 19 August
2004.
6 Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, The 9/11
Commission Report, New York: W.W. Norton & Company, p. 372.
7 www.kingfahdbinabdulaziz.com
8 Ottoway, David, “U.S. Eyes Money Trails of Saudi-Backed Charities,” Washington Post, 19 August
2004, final ed., sec. A: A01.
9 Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, The 9/11
Commission Report, W.W. Norton & Company, New York, NY, pp. 216-217.
10 Schmidt, Susan and Murphy, Caryle, “U.S. Revokes Visa of Cleric at Saudi Embassy,” Washington Post,
7 December 2003.
11 Simpson, Glenn, “A Muslim School Used by Military Has Troubling Ties,” Wall Street Journal, 3
December 2003.
12 U.S. State Department Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, Saudi Arabia
Country Report on Human Rights Practices, February 2004.
13 “All women in the country were prohibited from driving and were dependent upon males for any
transportation.” See U.S. State Department Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, Saudi Arabia
Country Report on Human Rights Practices, February 2004.
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14 U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, Report on Saudi Arabia, May 2003.
15 U.S. State Department Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, Saudi Arabia Country Report
on Human Rights Practices, February 2004.
16 Ajami, Fouad, “The Sentry’s Solitude,” Foreign Affairs, November/December 2001, p.2-16; Baer,
Robert, Sleeping With the Devil, Crown Publishers, New York, NY, 2003.
17 Schwartz, Stephen, The Two Faces of Islam, Doubleday, New York, NY, 2002; Also see Final Report of
the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, The 9/11 Commission Report, W.W.
Norton & Company, New York.
18 Al-Jubeir, Adel, Saudi Foreign Policy Advisor, Interview by Tony Snow, Fox News Sunday, 18 May
2003.
19 Also see, for discussion of Saudi innovations in the translation of the Koran, Schwartz, Stephen, “Re-
Writing the Koran: A Bigoted Saudi Translation,” The Weekly Standard, 27 September 2004.
20 Simon, Mafoot, “A Sufi Muslim Takes on Wahhabism,” Sunday Straits Times, 12 December 2004.
21 See Alexiev, Alex, “Growing Wahhabi Influence in the United States,” Testimony before of the U.S.
Senate Committee on the Judiciary, 26 June 2003.
22 Marshall, Paul, “War Against the Infidels,” The Weekly Standard, 26 June 2004.
23 This study did not attempt to monitor the sermons of radical imams exported by Saudi Arabia. See for
example, Stalinksy, Steven, “Kingdom Comes to North America: Top Saudi Cleric to Visit Canada,”
National Review Online, 13 May 2004, www.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405130846.asp.
24 Leiken, Robert S., “Bearers of Global Jihad? Immigration and National Security After 9/11,” The Nixon
Center, 2004.
25 Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, The 9/11
Commission Report, W.W. Norton & Company, New York, pp. 233.
26 Emerson, Stephen, American Jihad, The Free Press, New York, NY, 2002.
27 Argetsinger, Amy, “Muslim Teen Made Conversion to Fury,” Washington Post, 2 December 2004, Page
A03.
28 See Gilles Kepel, The War for the Muslim Minds, Belknap Press, 2002; and also see Doran, Michael
Scott, “The Saudi Paradox,” Foreign Affairs, January/February 2004 for a discussion on the various
ideological tendencies within Wahhabism and how the most radical ideologues came to predominate by
allying with the Muslim Brotherhood.
29 Dankowitz, Aluma, “Saudi Study Offers Critical Analysis of the Kingdom’s Religious Curricula,”
Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), 9 November 2004.
30 A Washington Post article reported that the D.C.-based public relations firm Qorvis Communications
was paid $14.6 million by the Saudi Arabian Embassy for one six month period, ending Dec. 31, 2002.
Horwitz, Sari and Eggen, Dan, “FBI Searches Saudi Arabia’s PR Firm,” Washington Post, 9 December
2004.
31 I recently met with a delegation of Saudi religious officials, including Sulaiman Muhammad al-Jarallah,
the former director of the Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences of Fairfax, Virginia, and a current
teacher at the government’s Imam Ibn Saud Islamic University in Riyadh who serves on a teacher training
commission at the University and on the organizing committee for the National Dialogue. Dr. Jarallah
replied to my question about the progress of such reform by stating that Saudi Arabia was a “conservative”
society whose textbooks properly reflected religiously conservative values. After I raised specific examples
of hate ideology expressed in the Saudi government textbooks, he sought to mitigate it by giving an
example of a heavily veiled Saudi woman having difficulty getting a taxi in London. He added that
“updating” the textbooks would take “many years” and “evolve slowly.” Another Saudi participant,
Ibrahim Abdullah Al-Sadan, also teaching at the Ibn Saud University and a former member of the Ministry
of Education’s Islamic Educational Reform project, said that the criticisms of the curriculum were
unwarranted because the examples given at the National Dialogue were taken out of context. The meeting
took place on December 14, 2004, at the Washington offices of the US Commission on International
Religious Freedom as part of an inter-faith dialogue sponsored through the US Institute for Peace. Also
see, World Net Daily, “Saudi Sheik: ‘Slavery is a Part of Islam’” The independent Saudi Information
Agency reported that Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan who was recently taped justifying the enslavement of infidels
in a lecture recorded by the Saudi Information Agency, remains a leading figure in the religious
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establishment that oversees this effort
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35518, 10 November 2003.
32 See e.g., Cohen, Ariel, “Putting the Kingdom on Notice,” Washington Times, 11 November 2003.
33 Schmidt, Susan, “Spreading Saudi Fundamentalism in U.S.,” Washington Post, 2 October 2003. Page
A01; Also see Watanabe, Teresa, “U.S., Muslims Divided Over Saudi Aid,” Los Angeles Times, 1
December 2002, “One of the nation’s most prominent Islamic Organizations (CAIR) has accepted a
$500,000 donation from a Saudi prince, sparking debate among American Muslims over whether foreign
contributors are compromising their independence and the integrity of their organizations.”
34 Ledeen, Michael, War Against the Terror Masters, St. Martin’s Press, New York, NY, 2002.
35 Barrett, Paul, “Captive Audience: How a Chaplain Spread Extremism to an Inmate Flock,” Wall Street
Journal, 5 February 2003, Section A, Page 1; Simpson, Glen, “FBI Reviews Muslims’ Military Role,” Wall
Street Journal, 15 October 2003; Also see, O’Beirne, Kate, “The Chaplain Problem: What gives with
imams (and others) in the military?” National Review, 27 October 2003.
36 Simpson, Glenn, “Diplomatic Visas of Saudis Revoked for Preaching Wahhabi Doctrine at Virginia
School,” Wall Street Journal, 30 January 2004.
37 Ottaway, David B., “U.S. Eyes Money Trails of Saudi Backed Charities,” Washington Post, 9 August
2004; Simpson, Glenn, “Saudi Shutter Massive Charity Linked With Terror,” Wall Street Journal, 3 June
2004; Also see Du'ran, Khalid and Devon, “Saudi Relief Hypocrisy,” National Review Online, 13 May
2003, www.nationalreview.com.
38 Stalinksy, Steven, “The Islamic Affairs Department of the Saudi Embassy in Washington, D.C.,” Middle
East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), No. 23, 26 November 2003.
39 Benard, Cheryl, Civil Democratic Islam, RAND National Security Research Division, 2003.
40 “International Religious Freedom Report for 2004,” U.S. Department of State, 2004.
41 See Schwartz, Stephen, “Re-Writing the Koran; A Bigoted Saudi Translation,” The Weekly Standard, 27
September 2004; also see MEMRI, Dispatch No. 830, “Saudi Journalist and Childhood Friend of Osama
bin Laden Criticizes Muslims for Misreading Koranic Verses to Justify Hatred of Christians and Jews,” 17
December 2004.
42 See Schwartz, Stephen, “Re-Writing the Koran; A Bigoted Saudi Translation,” The Weekly Standard, 27
September 2004; also see MEMRI, Dispatch No. 830, “Saudi Journalist and Childhood Friend of Osama
bin Laden Criticizes Muslims for Misreading Koranic Verses to Justify Hatred of Christians and Jews,” 17
December 2004.
43 Alyami, Ali, “Human Rights in Saudi Arabia,” Testimony before the Congressional Human Rights
Caucus, 4 June 2002. Also see: Center for Democracy and Human Rights http://www.cdhr.info/
44 This practice of denouncing as “infidels” moderate or non-Wahhabi Muslims and calling for retribution
against them is sometimes called the doctrine of “takfir,” literally excommunication. See The 9/11
Commission Report; Also see Kepel, Gilles, The War for the Muslim Minds, Harvard University Press,
2002; and “Ultra-Radical Muslims Draw Scrutiny,” Associated Press, Brian Murphy, 20 November 2004.
45 See Cradle of Islam: The Hijaz and the Quest for an Arabian Identity, Mai Yamani, I.B. Tauris
Publishers, London, 2004.
46 Muhammad, Ma’ashu. “The Jews in the Modern Era.” Know Your Enemy Section, The Muslim Soldier,
Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), 20 August 2004.
47 The un-Islamic nature of democracy as understood and practiced in the West is emphasized in more than
one piece of writing. From Jordan comes an Islamist analysis of democracy very much in line with the
Wahhabi views surveyed so far. Copies of this tract were gathered on December 15, 2003, from the Al-
Farouq Mosque in Houston, Texas: “Democracy is an evil system and we have been ordered to reject evil,”
write the authors in Al-Asala magazine, an Islamist publication. The main reason given for this is
democracy’s insistence on governing the people by the people themselves since the people are the source of
all power. To these Islamists this is a flagrant violation of Islamic laws and beliefs: “Either belief in Allah,
in his laws, and in governing through them, or belief in evil and governing through it—and everything that
disagrees with Allah’s laws is evil” . Pluralism comes in for severe criticism. It is of
two types, the authors inform us: ideological and political pluralism. The first means that people living
under the democratic system have the freedom to believe in whatever they like. “They can leave Islam for
any other religion or sect even if that belief system is Judaism, Christianity, communism, socialism, or
secularism, and this is the very embodiment of unbelief.” Political pluralism, on the other hand, entails
allowing all political parties without regard to their ideas or beliefs “to rule the Muslims through elections,
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which makes the Muslims and the non-Muslims equal, and this goes against the sacred injunctions that
categorically forbid non-Muslims to govern Muslims.” Elections done the democratic way are haram
(forbidden) because they do not require the candidate or the voter to display the necessary Islamic
credentials needed in order to become a public figure or a voting citizen. Thus democracy brings to power
rulers who from an Islamic perspective are not permitted to govern over Muslims. The purpose of elections
is for the candidate to become a member of a chamber of representatives, “an evil institution” that rules by
majority decisions, “not by Allah’s Book.”
48 Ottoway, David, “U.S. Eyes Money Trails of Saudi-Backed Charities,” Washington Post, 19 August
2004, final ed., sec. A: A01.
49 Muhammad, Ma’ashu, “The Jews in the Modern Era.” Know Your Enemy Section. The Muslim Soldier,
.
50 Ye’or, Bat, The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude, London:
Associated University Presses, 1996.
51 Final Report on the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the Unites States, The 9/11
Commission Report, New York: W.W. Norton & Company, p. 362.
52 For a discussion of the right of women to choose to wear the veil or not see Nafisi, Azar, Reading Lolita
in Tehran, Random House, March 2003.
53 “Author of Saudi Curriculums Advocates Slavery ("Slavery is a part of Islam," prominent scholar
says),” in Saudi Information Agency, 7 November 2003. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fnews/
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16. Meanwhile,
28/01/2005
The Pentagon hawk responsible for much of the planning of the war against Iraq has resigned.
Douglas Feith is the second leading hardliner in America's campaign against international terrorism to step down this year.

His resignation follows the departure of John Bolton from the state department. But the administration's most prominent hardliners, Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, and the new secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, remain in place.
<snip>
His 1,500-strong planning staff, which forms Pentagon policy for the war on terrorism, is reported to be facing three separate investigations, one by the FBI and two by congressional committees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/28/wfeith28.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/01/28/ixworld.html

My, my,
THREE SEPARATE INVESTIGATIONS!!

Tuesday 29 July 2003
WASHINGTON, July 29 - Hours before President Bush was scheduled to meet with the foreign minister of Saudi Arabia today, the White House rejected a request by the Saudi government and some members of Congress to declassify sections of a document that deal with the link between some Saudi officials and the terrorists involved in the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
In his meeting with Mr. Bush, the Saudi foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, who arrived in Washington on Monday, was expected to raise his country's concerns about the report, a Congressional study about the terrorist Sept. 11 attacks that was released last week. The study reportedly found that senior Saudi officials had funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to organizations that might have helped pay for the attacks.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/073003A.shtml

Those darn Saudis had accounts at Riggs Bank
where Unka Jonathan watched over them.

Stipano noted that Riggs had been cited for deficiencies in its BSA compliance program as far back as 1997, but he added that the deficiencies were “ somewhat technical in nature” and wouldn’t normally have required formal enforcement actions. In January 2003, however, the OCC conducted an extensive examination of Riggs’ Saudi accounts, which “discovered all sorts of problems,” Stipano said. This information was shared with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the case was referred to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN).
Meanwhile, the OCC was taken to task by subcommittee chairwoman Rep. Sue Kelly, R-N.Y., for what she described as regulatory “dawdling.” Kelly told Stipano that “you knew about these problems three years before 9/11, (and) even after that wake-up call it took another two years before you got a full-time examiner on site and the violations were still continuing with your full-time examiner.” Stipano said the OCC had underestimated the risk in embassy bank accounts. Prior to September 11, 2001 embassy accounts were not viewed by the OCC as high-risk accounts, he said. The events of September 11, 2001 turned the regulatory world on its head, Stipano said.
http://www.complianceheadquarters.com/AML/AML_Articles/6_4_04.html

Yet these same Saudi fools want to have those pages declassified,
and this after Riggs Bank has been busted
for taking money out of customer accounts
and then using it for Riggs-knows-what.
I guess the Saudis will probably say that they did not know what Riggs was doing with their cash.
But we know better, don't we.

"There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty".
-- GW Bush giving his opinion of Osama bin Laden.
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