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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:07 PM
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Disabled child in suicide attack (bomber appeared to have Down's syndrome)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/16278831

Disabled child in suicide attack
31 January 2005

Terrorists used a disabled child as a suicide bomber on election day, Iraqi interior minister Falah al-Naqib said today.

In all, 44 people were killed in a total of 38 bomb attacks on polling stations. Police at the scene of one the Baghdad blasts said the bomber appeared to have Down's syndrome.

Mr Al-Naqib praised an Iraqi citizen who was killed while preventing one suicide bomber from reaching a crowd of people outside a polling station.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/16278831
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:10 PM
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1. How old was this child?
Regardless, that is really sick and cruel.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:11 PM
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2. How sickening. That poor child.
What is wrong with these people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:14 PM
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:15 PM
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6. I wonder what the poor child was promised in the afterlife?
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 02:43 PM by truthpusher
If in fact this did happen.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:17 PM
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24. Adios
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:03 PM
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15. consider the source...
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 03:04 PM by leftchick
Iraqi interior minister Falah al-Naqib is a bought off US puppet...
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:13 PM
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3. death is death
I don't see the big deal. Sure, it's heartless and cruel, but what isn't in this "war?"
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Rebel_blogger Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:15 PM
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7. How can you say such a thing?
That's disgusting. This poor child didn't deserve to die for something that he or she wasn't aware of.
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Damien Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:23 PM
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9. no one deserves
to be killed. sure. kids being bombed and shot by US marines don't deserve it either. But we don't want to focus on those. The media just wants to demonize the "insurgents" by talking about how they kill, but not how we kill.
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Zirconia Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:25 AM
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30. Insurgents are not heros
"The media just wants to demonize the "insurgents"

You are one sick person. No wonder everyone thinks we root for bad things to happen. You honestly approve of "insurgents". They are cold blooded killers. There is no moral equivalent. They behead men and women. They took this poor child and blew him up and still you thinks it is wrong to demonize them. What is wrong with you?

The bio of this boy and his family. No doubt you and those brave minute men you honor should be proud.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Handicapped-boy-made-into-bomb/2005/02/01/1107228705132.html?oneclick=true
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:13 PM
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4. It is so much quicker to brainwash the mentally impaired.
But then I think most suicide bombers have mental problems or are just straight up lied to about their mission. As I recall, only the pilots of the 911 planes knew the "real" mission beforehand. Also, the suicide bomber that survived and has been giving info to the Iraqis was told he was only going to park the gas truck. His terrorist "comrades" chose to detonate the bomb without telling him.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:19 PM
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8. The only evidence for this claim is "the bomber appeared to have Down's
Syndrome?"

I'm not quite sure I trust the story to be honest.

If true, then yes, it's horrendous, but if the only proof is the questionable account of Iraqi police, then I'm not really inclined to take them at their word (being that they aren't really qualified to make an assessment based on such a short encounter with said individual).
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:28 PM
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10. Babies in Kuwaiti incubators redux...
I don't believe a fucking thing they say anymore...:grr:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:29 PM
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11. Exactly what I was thinking. I don't buy it based on one blurb
from an unnamed Iraqi "police" source.

I'll consider it pure propaganda until I see proof.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:18 PM
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25. Agree, I'm a bit skeptical - seems there is so much propaganda out
there these days. Could be just something to point to down the road to justify strip searching 90 year olds in a wheelchair or some such nonsense. "Can't trust anyone these days, remember that suicide bomber that had Downs Syndrome." I wouldn't put anything past the neo-cons.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:22 PM
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26. Or, could be something...
...to point to down the road to justify shooting children.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:24 PM
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28. Oh sheesh, hadn't thought of that. That is sick and right up their alley
these days.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:19 AM
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31. Your skepticism is wise
This card has been played before.
Also, I hate when they refer to Down Syndrome as Down's Syndrome.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:16 PM
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22. Neither do I.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 04:14 PM by ClayZ
Their faces all morph into "Baghdad Bobs" face when they speak. I used to be quite trusting until 4 years ago. Now my first thought is "BS" when they speak. I have taken to yelling out "Liar" when the idiot box is on, which is rarely these days.

"Psy Ops" is the name of their game and they think they have a straight flush.


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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:44 PM
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12. Just more propaganda
There is no way anyone can know about anybody else's mental state just by a look.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:54 PM
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13. Agreed
There's no evidence, other than someone saying he "looked" like he had Downs.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:05 PM
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16. Did he look like he had Downs Syndrome
before or after the bomb went off?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:13 PM
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18. Most definitely not after
Downs would have been the least of his problems.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:16 PM
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23. lol
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:01 PM
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14. There are some fairly reliable visual indicators
for Down's Syndrome. But having said that, I require a hell of a lot more corroboration than a statement from an anonymous alleged Iraqi policeman.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:09 PM
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17. I agree, it may be bogus.
I've seen people that appeared to have Down's but didn't. But was this a child? If this were true, that it was a child, it seems the MSM would be all over it. Anything to make the "insurgents" look evil.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:56 PM
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36. Tom Delay, for example
and Joe Scarborough.
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:14 PM
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19. Agreed
This is just one report from an unevaluated source.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:23 PM
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27. They will make a film with men in ski masks
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 03:26 PM by ClayZ
dressing a downs syndrome child in bomb vest. Then they will add a
voice over and send it to Al "Jazz"-ier who will then release it to FUX-NEWS. Hopefully one of these times they will forget to cut the credits off the end and we will see Carl, Condi, Dick and George listed as producers. (((grin)))
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:14 PM
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20. Taken right from...
....Joseph Conrad's novel The Secret Agent.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:14 PM
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21. Wouldn't the bomber's remains be...oh....GONE?!?
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:59 AM
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33. You are obviously un-acquainted with
Middle Eastern paper products which remain intact no matter what stresses they are subjected to.

The passports and business cards and airline tickets of some of the "hijackers" were made of this type of paper and thus were available, after the 911 crashes, to readily identify the culprits.

Ilan Ramon, who was on the shuttle Columbia, had a diary of made of Middle Eastern paper. When the shuttle blew up in space, the diary made its way down to earth. The Israeli police used a special machine which read the writing in the holes. They made a documentary about this.

Sometimes the Middle Eastern paper lends its properties to the bearer.
That is why a bomber who has strapped explosives onto his body will often be found more or less intact, whereas the building he was in has been leveled and a deep crater has been formed where the concrete foundation once was.
It is just one of those things.
Muslims suspend the laws of physics all the time.
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:30 PM
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29. The shit just gets thicker and thicker ...
sounds like desperation is kicking in and the Orwellian machine is at full-crank.
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Rebel_blogger Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:42 PM
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34. Would you believe this if it had been a US soldier ...
shooting a child with Down Syndrome? I'm know I'm going to get shouted down for saying that, but my point is we shouldn't be so quick to discount information just because it doesn't support our view. This is a brutal war that is causing people to do inhumane things on both sides.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:53 PM
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35. this is a ridiculous story
you can believe any dumb lie they tell you if you want. You'll have a lot of company, unfortunately, millions of people swallow this crap along with you.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:05 PM
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37. People will unquestioningly believe anything they see on tv.... n/t
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:23 AM
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32. How awful
Poor kid, didn't even have the mentality to be able to understand what he was doing.

It reminds me of a story my cousin's whacked-out Vietnam Vet ex-husband had. When he was over there, patrolling the jungle, he and some of his patrol came across a baby in a carriage, in the middle of nowhere, screaming like babies needing attention tend to do. Two of the guys approached the carriage to get the baby out and bring him back to the base for medical attention, and the carriage blew up.
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:08 PM
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38. I would say this is sick, but...
Suicide bombing is inherantly sick- This was a murder of that disabled person- and I wouldnt put it past people who murder other people.
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:07 PM
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40. You mean like the US illegally ...
invading another country. How many civilians has the US killed in foreign nations, and all in the name of war. Oops ... I'm sorry ... I meant collateral damage. We're the nice killers I suppose. <sarcasm> The resistance in Iraq are fighting on their own soil. How does your moral compass serve to give any credence to this story? Sure, it's easy to put down the behavior, because one cannot deny the cause.

Anyways, you're arguing against history. How many suicide bombers in Israel? How many years has that been going on? Have you ever read the diaries of some of those suicide bombers? Do you know how committed they are to their cause? How many suicide bombers in Iraq?

On one hand, we're told that Islam is a culture of death, and this is supposed to explain the suicide bombings. On the other hand, now that we're getting our royal asses handed back to us on a plate, we make the Islamist horrific by creating stories that the Islamist is desperate enough to use a mentally challenged child. Maybe ... just maybe ... they're so pissed off that they're willing to die for their cause.

Same shit all the time:

1. Iraqi soldiers dumping Kuwaiti children out of incubators, and that turned out to be a LIE.

2. That Saddam possessed nuclear material obtained from Nigeria. LIE!

3. The slew of shit that Powell produced before the UN on Feb 5th, 2003. ALL LIES!

4. That Jessica Lynch had really fought like a hero. LIE!

5. That Jessica Lynch was raped. LIE!

6. There's the "mission accomplished. LIE!

7. That the insurgency is made up of a few dead-enders. LIE!

8. That the US avoided civilian casualties in Falljuh and other parts of Iraq. LIE!

9. That the torturing of prisoners was done by low ranking US soldiers and was not ordered from the high command. LIE!

10. That the upsurge in violence was due to the fact that Saddam hadn't been caught yet. LIE!

11. That the upsurge in violence was due to the fact that Saddam was caught. LIE!

12. That the upsurge in violence was due to the fact that the coalition was making progress in Iraq. LIE!

13. That the upsurge in violence was due to the coming elections. LIE!

After all this, how can anyone believe the Father of all Lies. The insurgency doesn't have to fight us with lies, because the US gives the insurgency a barrage and fodder of an all too apparent brutal and savage truth brought about by LIES.
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govegan Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:52 PM
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39. Isn't it just marvelous how the neofascist agenda
brings out the best in folks!!

Since the social safety net in Iraq is so bloody rock solid these days, the poor lad is really missing out on his share of the red, white and blue paradise.

Just think of all those double cheeseburgers going to waste.......

enough to give one a case of Texas diarrhea.

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