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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 10:29 PM
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Chavez Says Venezuela Won't Recognize Iraqi Delegation at OPEC
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAXCD67QKD.html
Chavez Says Venezuela Won't Recognize Iraqi Delegation at OPEC Meet
The Associated Press Published: Sep 17, 2003

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez said Wednesday Venezuela won't recognize an Iraqi delegation at an upcoming meeting of OPEC ministers, although his oil minister said informal talks may happen. "We don't recognize a 'quote government unquote'" under foreign occupation, Chavez told a meeting of foreign journalists at the presidential palace. <snip>


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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 10:33 PM
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1. HA! The BFEE has been trying to overthrow Chavez and just can't
get the job done. Good for Chavez. Give 'em the finger for all of us!
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:15 AM
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7. is Carville BFEE?
Is it true he assisted the coup plotters? More bipartisanship?
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dani Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:45 AM
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8. no, the opposition contracted Carville recently
post-coup, they're hoping Carville will help them create a strategy to oust Chavez.

Here's an article, its the economia stupid
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benfro25 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:59 AM
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14. i have a question
i know i'm stupid, but what is the BFEE?
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:10 AM
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15. Bush Family Evil Empire
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 11:14 AM by Fozzledick
Personally I prefer "Bush Crime Family" to clearly indicate that they're an ongoing criminal enterprise as defined by the RICO act, but "BFEE" seems to have caught on.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:20 PM
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17. Hi benfro25!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:

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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 10:44 PM
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2. as the shouldn't...
it aint a real government....
BEEEEYATCH!
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:07 PM
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3. That's right Hugo
You tell it to them. Democracy does not mean foreign occupation by the US. I wouldn't recognize them either.

Sonia
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 03:36 AM
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4. Just who the fuck are you? You look familiar but I can't think of the name
Now THAT is how you fail to recognise a delegation....

:evilgrin:

P.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:02 AM
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5. Uh, oh, Here we go again. Someone's going to get an eye poked out.
I completely forgot that angle. Cheney is now running an OPEC nation. That must have been a big reason for doing this. And who was going to object? Venezuela, that's who. Damn. I feel like an idiot for not thinking of this sooner.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:13 AM
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6. That's why I get my gas from Citgo
Doing my part to keep democracy alive!!!!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:15 AM
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9. Cutting off the nose to spite the face?
If OPEC keeps Iraq out, Iraq would not be subject to their production limitations. If Iraq floods the market with oil, the price of it will fall and OPEC nations will lose money.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:12 AM
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12. That scenario assumes...
...that someone is going to be getting a quantity of oil out of Iraq sometime soon.

Iraq has had to import fuel lately, and the pipelines show no sign of becoming fireproof, so I don't think Iraq flooding the market with oil is an immediate concern.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:39 AM
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16. They're probably not kicking Iraq out. They're just not acknowledging
the new representatives.

This is obvioulsy sensible policy. Is discourages coups and attacks against members.

And I'm sure there are mechanisms for punishing violations of OPEC wishes, like embargoes, and stuff. Perhaps there's discount price for nations which don't buy oil from certain countries violating OPEC rules.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:02 AM
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10. I like Hugo!!!
:hi:
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:10 AM
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11. Nice!
:D
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:50 AM
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13. the rest of the news post....
"Venezuelan Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez said there wasn't any Iraqi government to send a delegation to the Sept. 24 meeting in Vienna. But he acknowledged there could be "informal" talks with an Iraqi "observer" at the meeting."

So there isn't a delegation formed yet, just an observer.
Wonder who the observer is?

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