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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:40 AM
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In Small Town, the Fight Continues for Texas Sovereignty
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/13/national/13overton.html


Let 'em secede...and they can have Bush & Co lead 'em into extinction!
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zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:55 AM
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1. "It's a whole 'nother country..."
Hell..."It's a whole "nother planet"!
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:56 AM
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2. I say don't let the door hit them on the ass
On the way out of the union.
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:19 PM
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30. i say let the door BREAK THEIR ASS
and send them flying over South America!
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:22 AM
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3. So, if Texas seceded, then George W. Bush would no longer be
eligible to be President, would he? Okay, he was born in Connecticut, so he's safe that way, but he would have to change his address ASAP, wouldn't he?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:01 PM
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21. He is adept at changing his accent
Has anyone noticed since November the twang is gone. Imagine him with a NE accent. :puke:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:31 AM
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4. Better if they first broke into four states
Texas has the right to do so, without approval from Congress.

Now, if they did that, and the southern part stayed in the Union while the other three left, it would improve the balance of votes in the Union quite a bit.
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Menshevik Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:05 AM
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5. good riddance. eom
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:11 AM
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6. Oh please, please, please let it happen!
Maybe it will start a trend. :evilgrin:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:24 AM
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7. A Texan is in the White house, the big guns
in congress are Texans, and many of the money men controlling them are Texans. Why should they secede when they are in control?
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:33 PM
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8. I don't think anyone would mind... bye bye Texas.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:09 PM
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15. At least keep the TX blue islands.....
Austin, Dallas, Houston (ok--so those 2 are really purple), El Paso....

Not that I live on one those blue islands but I'd be willing to relocate OUT of Collin County :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:45 PM
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9. They Are Turning the USA into the United State of Texas
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:05 PM
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10. What was Lincoln thinkin'? n/t
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:19 PM
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31. a house divided cannot stand..
he was right...through the other "division" the F*^& out!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:14 PM
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11. Best of luck to them!
And good riddance.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:59 PM
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12. That would be perefectly fine with me.
Would ** lose his American citizenship and be forced to resign?

Ah, one can dream.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:04 PM
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13. Except he wasn't born down here....
He just tries to convince people he was (with his fake twang)....but if he was born here, watch how quickly that "born elsewhere but can still be prez here" law would be passed...
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:06 PM
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14. Oh, yeah...I forget.
Blah.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:15 PM
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16. I have a better idea!
As a native Texan I say we make the Crawford Pig Ranch a sovereign nation and force OBL, Dubya and Saddam to live there TOGETHER! We could put cameras into the home...call it Big Brother Is Making Fun Of You. Bet it would beat American Idol.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:02 PM
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17. see ya Texas!
Go back to Mexico where you belong. Take your 30+ electoral votes, your warmongering presidents (both of them), your cowboy hats, your stupid dome-non domed stadium, your Enron, your cowboy boots and other bastardations of good fashion and leave the good old USA the way it was orignially meant to be.

Oh, but leave Austin, I heard that's a cool place.
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:36 PM
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18. At the risk of being blowtorched,
as a 60's model vietnam protestor and still 'radic-lib' (if you don't know what that is I might question your credentials) living in west Texas, I respectfully request all the prejudiced (judgement based on preconceptions)posters here to take a breath. I recall a western from the 50's where a man's wife was killed by an Indian. He went out to take revenge on all Indians until his friend asked him what he would have done if she had been killed by a white man. No one Texan speaks for all any more than any one New Yorker speaks for all. We fight the ignorance here every day, and all evidence to the contrary notwitstanding, we will win. And, by the way, this was a damn sight better state before all those Repubs started moving here from the north in the 70's.
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Princess Buttercup Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:52 PM
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19. Thanks!
This was a better state without the shrubbery, if you know what I mean.

The Dean campaign in particular mobilized a lot of Texas Dems and people who are just fed up, who are all the more dedicated because really, what have we got to lose? The only place to go is up. We are going to take our state and our country back!

From someone who lives in the blue part of Texas. ;-)

LE
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:56 PM
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20. Never give up.
Never give up. Never,ever, ever, give up.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:30 PM
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32. 'radic-lib'....
I do know what that means. Christ, I must be getting old.

Redstone
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 03:55 PM
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35. well said
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:20 PM
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22. Maybe we should "invade 'em, kill their leaders, and convert 'em ...
... to Christianity." The whole state is fulla heathen.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:34 AM
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23. kick
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:35 AM
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24. Militant group wants Texas to be a sovereign nation
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/usa.shtml#18030

VERTON, Tex. - The road to the capitol winds through a landscape of pine trees, rusting pump jacks and a few tidy churches in this East Texas town. Literature in the lobby describes how citizens can apply for passports or enlist in the interim defense forces.

The building is the headquarters of the Republic of Texas, a sometimes militant organization whose members repudiate the authority of Austin and Washington and believe Texas should be a sovereign nation. The group gained notoriety eight years ago when some members took a couple hostage in the Davis Mountains of West Texas, and endured a weeklong siege by more than 100 police officers, after which a follower who fled into the mountains was killed. The leader of the faction involved in the standoff is still in prison.

But after several years of infighting and the expulsion of renegade splinter cells, the group has resurfaced here in Overton under a new leader, Daniel Miller. Mr. Miller, recently interviewed in Houston, said he wanted to distance the organization from its violent past and from its image as a white-supremacy movement. He said his new platform advocates Texas sovereignty without the use of guns or explosives.

The organization re-established itself here in 2003 with the acquisition of the building that would become the capitol, the first time the group has had an official base. Chief Williams said that since then, there have been a number of confrontations with local officials.

more

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:35 AM
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25. Let 'em go
texan money is easy to counterfeit
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:35 AM
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26. wish you well...
take your "remember the alamo" crap...and honky ignorant ways...and shove em.

Good riddance.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:35 AM
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28. to bad rubbish,
as my grandmother used to say.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:35 AM
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27. Don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out, Texicans!
On the other hand, Texas would probably become a terrorist rogue nation -- failed state -- and have to be reconstructed again.

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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:17 PM
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29. and then we would invade them AGAIN
and colonize them, to bring them democracy and freedom and remove terrorism...and we're back on square one again.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:37 PM
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33. Well, folks...
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 12:39 PM by theHandpuppet
Go visit their website at http://www.republic-of-texas.net/

They apparently think their "republic" would also include NM, CO, and large chunks of the western U.S. Typical.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:47 PM
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34. Here are the boundaries of their republic
... which are based on maps from 1844: http://www.answers.com/topic/republic-of-texas

Just so some of you who don't even live in Texas will know their New Republic will annex parts of your states, too.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:08 PM
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36. Goodbye, Good Riddance...
...and please take Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama with you when you go.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:52 PM
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37. locking
Thread has deteriorated into a flame war.
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