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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:47 AM
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Biographies off the 11 Federal Judges Who Will Rehear the Calif. Recall El
Biographies off the 11 Federal Judges Who Will Rehear the Calif. Recall Election Case
The Associated Press
Published: Sep 20, 2003


Brief biographies of the 11 judges from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals who will hear arguments in the case that postponed the California gubernatorial recall election.
Appointed by Democrats:

NAME: Chief Judge Mary M. Schroeder.

AGE: 62

9TH CIRCUIT APPOINTMENT: President Carter, 1979.

EDUCATION: B.A. Swarthmore College '62; J.D. University of Chicago Law School '65.

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAIKAXATKD.html

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:52 AM
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1. Of the two Repubs Kozinski can be a wild card
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 02:53 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
but O'Scannlain is more apt to dream up an opinion that serves the Bushies.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 02:56 AM
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2. So do you think this court will favor postponement?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:26 AM
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4. Also from another story
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA06LWATKD.html

Governor Wants Quick Election as Appeals Court Agrees to Review Delay
By David Kravets Associated Press Writer
Published: Sep 20, 2003

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Gov. Gray Davis, buoyed by a week of appearances with heavyweight Democrats, cast his support for a quick recall election after a federal appeals court agreed to rethink postponing the ballot.

Davis' call Friday to bring on the Oct. 7 election defies conventional wisdom that he would benefit from a drawn-out process that would give him a chance to demonstrate his leadership skills.

<snip>

"My attitude is, let's just get it over with, let's just have this election on Oct. 7, put this recall behind us so we can get on with governing the state of California," Davis said.

<snip>

Some legal experts said Friday's decision suggests the court has serious misgivings about the postponement and may be inclined to let the election go ahead next month. The 11-judge panel, chosen by lottery, includes eight judges appointed by Democrats, seven of them by President Clinton. The court's ruling could be further appealed to the Supreme Court.


Now WTF?? I guess it went over my head when this ruling was announced yesterday because I didn't get the impression this was necessarily a victory for the bad guys.

This is getting awfully fucking confusing!!:hurts:


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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:49 AM
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5. One more thing - please comment on this as well ..
From same article in my post #4

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA06LWATKD.html

A panel of 11 judges will hear arguments Monday on whether the panel erred when it ruled that the October date must be delayed to prevent six counties from using the same type of unreliable punch-card ballots that disrupted the 2000 presidential election.

Some legal experts said Friday's decision suggests the court has serious misgivings about the postponement and may be inclined to let the election go ahead next month. The 11-judge panel, chosen by lottery, includes eight judges appointed by Democrats, seven of them by President Clinton. The court's ruling could be further appealed to the Supreme Court.


In your professional opinion how long is this decision going to take to decide? Or how long do they usually take with something like this? (I'm assuming it will be decided fairly quickly.)

Do you think either side will appeal the ruling to the USSC anyway?

Could the mere fact of a subsequent appeal to the USSC result in going past the Oct 7 election date anyway? (Hmm .. they'd really have to move fast to take this, and hear it.)

As I read the article again more closely, there seems to be a strong slant that the original decision of the 3 judge panel is going to be overturned. Jeezus that is a kick in the ass.:(
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:28 AM
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7. I don't think anyone should second guess this court
In some ways they are predictable ..in others they are not..it is really impossible to tell but for a couple.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:37 PM
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10. well thanks
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:16 PM
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8. edited
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 12:17 PM by Booberdawg
posted in wrong spot
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 03:06 AM
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3. Our Nation is near destruction when Judges are thought of as in a
political party and/or doing favors for a political party. Which in fact is what the Repukelicans have done to our nation with their judicial nominees. No more honesty in the Repukelican Executive Branch. No more honesty in the Repukelican Judicial Branch.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:59 AM
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6. I disagree
Everyone has biases, and lots of them line up on the Democrat-Republican axis.

I think people should really think that it's critical they the vote for many reasons, and the tenor of the courts to which elected officials appoint judges should be one of the TOP reasons people vote.

This story hits home that point.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:17 PM
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9. Anybody know how long it usually takes for one of these decisions?
And what's the scuttlebutt in CA, is this likely to be appealed to the USSC no matter what this court decides?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:19 PM
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11. Quick ruling likely, both sides vow appeal
Appeals court to reconsider postponement of California recall election

By DEAN E. MURPHY
THE NEW YORK TIMES

SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal appeals court agreed yesterday to reconsider a ruling delaying the recall election of Gov. Gray Davis, handing the question to an 11-judge panel that recall proponents predict will uphold the original Oct. 7 date.


<snip>

Most legal experts predicted a ruling would come swiftly. Regardless, the dispute seemed headed for the U.S. Supreme Court, since each side had vowed to appeal if it lost.

"What we said in our papers is that it should have the finality of Supreme Court review," said Mark Rosenbaum, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, which sought the postponement and opposed a new hearing. "We are disappointed that the hearing was granted, but we look forward to presenting our arguments."



http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/140495_recall20.html
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:20 PM
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14. Both Sides May Be Willing to Appeal,
but I think SCOTUS will not be willing to hear the appeal and will say so the day after it's filed.

I just don't think they want to be tarnished any more after Bush v Gore. (Of course, they surprised me in 2000, so who knows?)
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SixDegrees Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 05:12 AM
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15. The Supreme Court doesn't beging
its term until the beginning of October.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:23 AM
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16. In the meantime they can still decide whether to hear it or not
Regardless, I would like to see the USSC be forced to take a stand on whether they would hear the case or not.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:20 PM
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12. Which was the Pledge of Allegiance judge
nt
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:54 PM
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13. Doesn't look like any of these recall judges were invoved with that

<snip>

The ruling was issued by Goodwin, who was appointed by President Nixon, and Circuit Judge Stephen Reinhardt, a Carter appointee.

In a dissent, Circuit Judge Ferdinand F. Fernandez, appointed by the first President Bush, warned that under his colleagues' theory of the Constitution, "we will soon find ourselves prohibited from using our album of patriotic songs in many public settings."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56310,00.html
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