BREAKING NEWS A second member of the U.S. military has been detained

[Blitz]

BREAKING NEWS A second member of the U.S. military has been detained after being found with classified information on Guantanamo Bay detainees, CNN has learned. Details soon.

that's all there is right now.

Here's an early link from Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98082,00.html

TWO more detained.

[Emboldened Chimp]

1. A second?

When was the first detained? Pardon my ignorance, but this is the first I've heard about this.

Anyone suppose this person was trying to leak info?

[Oggy]

3. I think the first....

was the army priest ( Muslim ), who they say was giving moral support ( i.e. what priests do!) to the detainees.

[meegbear]

4. Yesterday ...

a muslim cleric for the US military was datained.

[underpants]

5. A Islamic Chaplain named Yee

West Point grad Gulf1 veteran converted to Islam left the Army studied in Syria.

[KittyWampus]

6. Malloy Explainted Last Night

That a chaplain had been detained with info such as maps of Guantanamo and info about interogations... I thinkn.

A Muslim chaplain named Yi or Yee.

Was he a whistle blower?

So this is number two.

[underpants]

7. I don't understand what good that info could do him or the detainees

Is he showing them information and getting instructions from them?

Are the detainees THAT high ranking?

Is he giving them information about Gitmo as if they were going to escape? To where?

None of this makes any sense to me.

[w13rd0]

8. al Queada has telepathy and mind control jedi powers...

...thus that information could be transmitted to the Sith Lord Ossama in his Den of Doom via telepathy, or fax maybe. But I think it's far more likely that we're locking up whistleblowers...especially as the military is turning against the Bush regime...

[underpants]

11. That explains all the ewoks running around

Very funny. So you think Yee was a whistleblower and they are slamming him? Interesting.

[GinaMaria]

10. My first thought was that

they had info about Gitmo and what is going on there. Who knows what it is.

[Rose Siding]

12. The "story" is

that after he left Gitmo he's been picked up with classified documents (described as lists of prisoners names, diagrams of Gitmo, and of the cells there)

At first I thought he could have been trying to contact prisoners families to let them know they are OK, but that doesn't really explain all the stuff they said he has.

Now that he's been spirited away by the GOVT, we won't know what happened til there's an expose in 50 years.

[papau]

13. details about the prison camp and the detainees is classified

These are not the first prisonners taken by the US military and held without trial - but they are the first taken and held without a hearing - in Gulf One Bush the Daddy took 1200 prisoners, held hearings and released 400, retaining 800 for the end of the day. These guys do not even get a hearing!

Indead AWOL has classified many/most details about the prison camp and the detainees - indeed you may not even identify any of the men being held there.

Not that this is unAmerican per Bush - or our media.

So we have an Airforce officer and a chaplin, both being held for the crime of ?????????????

[w13rd0]

2. Ok, this seals it....

...they are locking up whistleblowers that are leaking info on whistleass...

[bushisanidiot]

18. My Thoughts Exactly

It must be hard to keep a lid on the conditions at the concentration camp. How did the nazi's treat the soldiers who showed sympathy to the jews in the camps?

[ScrewyRabbit]

9. I suspect they'll all be shipped off to that NC prison

(or is it in Virginia?) where they're keeping Jose Padilla. They'll muzzle 'em, lock 'em up, and then throw away the key.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

14. Like so many others, I have to wonder if the "classified documents"

were of a humanitarian or "whistle-blower" nature.

The rumours and very naure of Gitmo lend themselves as a conspiracy theorist's fuel. It seems odd that a high security area such as Gitmo would be compromised by so many spies that were caught within a short period of time. The idea of people trying to tell others of what is really going on there is much more plausible. (IMHO)

[Selwynn]

21. That is EXACTLY what I think

(nt)

[Dhalgren]

15. A friend of mine suggested

that maybe the chaplin was trying to get a messege out to some of the detainees families. You know - "I'm still alive. I'm being held. Pray for me." That type of thing. I read, oh, months ago, that the families of the detainees have no idea that their loved ones are at Gitmo - they don't know whether they are alive or dead. The identities of the prisoners are "classified".

[Sliverofhope]

16. Is there any truth any of this info

has been sent to the International Criminal Court? Were they totally unsuccessful? This is a story that needs watching.

[Trek234]

25. That could explain why they were caught

The question is - was the information (if they are whistle blowers) intercepted before it could reach the ICC? Assuming the info was of that nature and was sent directed to the ICC in the first place.

If it was paper mail then yes most likely. If it was eletronic communication then it was no doubt intercepted, but still likely reached its destination.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

17. Now they (CNN) are saying 5 people arrested in Gitmo

espionage investigation.

[Blitz]

19. From the MSNBC article re: the 5 suspects

In addition to al-Halabi, officials said the other potential suspects were a member of the Army, a member of the Navy, a Marine Corps contractor and a fourth person whose service affiliation could not immediately be determined. All five are Muslims, intelligence officials said.
Al-Halabi was charged with nine counts related to espionage, three counts of aiding the enemy, 11 counts of disobeying a lawful order and nine counts of making a false official statement, the Pentagon said. He was being held at Vandenburg Air Force Base, Calif.
The Air Force has already conducted an Article 32 hearing, and Halabi’s commanding officer at Travis Air Force Base, Calif., will determine whether he should face a court martial.


more:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/969495.asp?0cv=CB10

[mw]

20. My guess: these are whistleblowers, being detained

As someone mentioned already.

My FIRST THOUGHT, when I heard the FIRST STORY, was that these guys are whistleblowers.

The guy is a chaplain. Who had access to the prisoners. He was offended by the way they were being treated at the George W. Bush Concentration Camp.

It's not a long stretch to turn the reality--that this guy was sympathetic to the atrocious conditions at the camp--into the propoganda that he was "sympathetic to the terrorists".

The news on this is too foggy to tell a clear story. Which makes me believe what I do. Keep in mind, all these guys needed to have was a list of prisoners, and that could be "classified information", then it's a short stretch to say it "might be treason" and "espionage".

The military can hold these guys for 4 months without charge. If they don't die before then or get leaned on too hard, maybe we'll hear the story.

[Minstrel Boy]

22. My thought as well.

Though I'm ashamed to admit it was my second thought, and it took another arrest. Whistleblowers, of course. And these days it takes just a slight, Ashcroftian leap to turn a whistleblower into a "terrorist sympathizer."

But they can say what they want, and we can believe what we want, and we may never learn the truth. Meanwhile, these guys join the ranks of the disappeared.

[Trek234]

26. "can hold these guys for 4 months"

Since when has Bush played by the rules in matters such as these?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. 2nd? i heard that there were 5 US military's being held

:shrug:

[Trek234]

24. Are they really muslims?

I suspect that if they WERE whistle blowers they will need to loose as much credibility as possible in order to do the least "damage" to whoever is doing X illegal thing. (like we need say what or who)

I suspect saying "They were muslims" will feed in to the story about how they were trying to help the (muslim) enemy.

That way racist joe six pack will not need ANY more evdience other than - muslim = guilty.

[IndianaGreen]

27. Before all of you embark on a Muslim witchhunt, read this...

I smell another Wen Ho Lee case in the making...

Why has the US government imprisoned Captain Yee?
By Bill Vann
23 September 2003

A previous commander of the Camp Delta prison camp, Brig. Gen. Rick Baccus, was relieved of his post, reportedly for attempting to mandate humane treatment of the detainees and posting International Committee of the Red Cross posters spelling out the rights of prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions.

The Bush administration has maintained—in defiance of international law—that as “enemy combatants” the detainees are entitled to none of the rights afforded to POWs. At the same time, by imprisoning them at the US base in Cuba, it has denied them any rights under the US Constitution.

Why has the government thrown Yee into the navy brig reserved for those US citizens alleged by the Bush administration to be “terrorists”?

Certainly many hundreds of Muslim and Arab immigrants have been rounded up and imprisoned in the US for lengthy periods without charges and subjected to physical and psychological abuse over the past two years as part of the “global war on terrorism.” People visiting the country, including a recent incident involving a Yemeni delegation of officials and businessmen carrying personal invitations from the US ambassador, have been detained and put in manacles for the sole crime of coming from one or another Muslim country.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/yee-s23.shtml

[0007]

29. Wen Ho Lee -

I remember the freepers wanting him put to death and Clinton thrown in prison. The FBI were caught cold turkey lying in a court of law. Talk about a set-up.

I agree IG that this is another Wen Ho Lee set up by the spooks that we think are protecting us.

[MrPrax]

28. Must be a Cover Up rem Baccus

Remember when the first head was 'fired' for raising complaints...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2332719.stm

Memory lane stuff from memory hole
http://www.thememoryhole.org/gitmo/gitmo-site.htm

In the past year or so, the official Navy Website for the base at Guantanamo Bay (known as Gitmo) has removed some material. We recovered portions of it.