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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:19 PM
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Dean Says Bush Policies Threaten Nation
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:23 PM
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1. ``That,'' Dean said, ``is not the act of a patriot.''
referring to AshKKKroft and the unPATRIOTic Act.

Well said, IMHO. :bounce:
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:42 PM
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33. Dean Rocks!
I agree when Clinton said Dems want to 'fall in love'. I am officially in love with Howard Dean... :loveya:
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:12 PM
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36. Dean As Usual- Leading
Dean attacks Bush* and no one else. Trust Howard, he is for real!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:24 PM
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2. Nice statement from Dean
More people need to hear this.

Julie
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:26 PM
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4. Yup. We need to fill the airwaves
The words of all the candidates (less Lieberman) will hopefully invade the American conscience and help those still entranced wake up.
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Mackay Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:36 PM
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19. You must be joking (reply to 18)
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 04:00 PM by Mackay
Sure, this rhetoric is old hat around DU... but out on the airwaves... DEAN is the ONLY one taking the criminals head on. First you have to call them out on what they are doing.... and make it easy enough for the general public to understand.

Thanks to the internet anyone can follow up on the details if they wish. After all, how many soundbites would it take to cover the BFEE... about 9 trillion...

This speech was great!

On Edit: that's weird, I replied to Selwyn's post #18
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:26 PM
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3. DAMN! Now THAT'S a speech!
NT!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:29 PM
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18. That's a speech that didn't say much of anything...
But it sure was a good one to rile up baseless emotionalism.

Don't worry, its not that I think Dean did anything wrong - its early elections, these are the kinds of speeches candidates should be making. I just desire to not jump on the emotinalism band wagon and wait until I hear messages of actual concrete-specific substance before I get fired up. :)

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:52 PM
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20. I haven't heard all of it and will be back with more when I do.
But from what I heard ...Dean's Speech said a Lot.. This is about getting People fired up to want to get involved in politics and "Taking Our Country Back".. That's what we're going to do..so, of course, it said a lot to that!

Dean is bringing out what the repubs are trying to screw us out of our Democracy...that is Something.

Sorry you didn't hear anything.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:04 PM
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30. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
;-)
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:49 PM
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37. Emotionalism band wagon? We know a true winner
I'm excited because at my age, this just might be my last presidential election, and Dean is one that fires me up. No one else
does in this list of candidates.

:grouphug: :thumbsup:
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:27 PM
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5. Go Dean
Pointing to a flag on the platform, Dean said, ``This flag does not belong to Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, John Ashcroft, Tom DeLay and Dick Cheney. This flag belongs to us and we want our country.''
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:36 PM
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6. Dean Says Bush Policies Cause Cancer in Lab Rats
Yadda yadda yadda.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:45 PM
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10. And Lieberman causes cancer to everyone
So far he's right of Bush on every issue.

Why do you still continue to support a schmuck like that?

Hawkeye-X
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:00 PM
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21. Psssst... *whispers* -- sometimes it's really hard to get the Reagan...
completely out of the Reagan Democrat.

:evilgrin:


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:19 PM
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17. Something about Dean telling it like it is regarding bush...bothers
you?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:41 PM
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28. Yeah. Let's send Holy Joe to the Front in Iraq
Let him put his fat ass where his big Dem bashing mouth is.
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Cappurr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:36 PM
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7. Whoo
That was some speach. And right on too. My only question is that lefties like us eat that up, but will moderates? Will swing voters? I believe every word he said...but will they, particularly with the media we have.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:01 PM
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12. Sure they will. It wasn't a radical speech, just saying the truth.
People are starting to wake up and accept the truth and not afraid about being heard.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:07 PM
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14. I don't know....
but a good friends neighbor - nonU affiliated Hoosier, older lady (60s)... Declares she has NEVER voted for a democrat (as if democrats have koodies).... but that BUSH has got to go and she is voting democratic next election.

For her - and other lifelongers who are getting disgusted... it just might play...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:39 PM
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8. Threaten the nation? Why stop there?
I'd say that Mr. Bush's policies threaten the world. But I quibble. Sure would like to see if these Dean sentiments get a full and fair airing on this side of the Atlantic.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:11 PM
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34. The problem is,
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 07:11 PM by Sick of Bullshit
too many Americans tend to view their country as "the world". So to them, "the nation" means "the world", but, ironically, saying "the world" would only generate blank faces among a large segment of this population.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:41 PM
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9. hit 'em hard Dean
:-)
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:56 PM
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11. Awesome
He has the guts to tell it like it is no Bushie ass kissin'' here....GO DEAN
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:06 PM
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13. It makes you wonder….
Just what the fuck does the DLC have against this guy? The Clintons are getting smaller and smaller in my mind.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:17 PM
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15. Right on Dr. Dean -Stand up to tyranny
"They had a king named George who had forgotten his people and only listened to special interest," he said, drawing cheers from the crowd.

Yep we are back to those times. Time to dump the king. Take your country back!!

Sonia
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:18 PM
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16. This is what I want to hear from democratic candidates --
You better believe this election is about more than just what personality will be the presidential candidate -- it's about the future of this country and democracy itself -- and any democrat worth his salt should be saying this loud and clear. GO DEAN GO!!!illegal codesmilie_remote(':wow:')
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:24 PM
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24. I agree !!
It IS about the future of our country. I want my country back!
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:15 PM
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22. speak out. And speak out LOUDLY. Bush is the real threat to US
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:22 PM
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23. gotta love the use of the word "lie"
about sending the troops over there...this is the word i'd like to see come out of the mouth of EVERY dem candidate.

so far, dean seems to be more inclined than the rest to use it. c'mon clark- you can say it too!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:29 PM
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25. AP still not picked up by local papers! - here is 5:30 AP version
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 04:36 PM by papau
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA4Q51EYKD.html

Dean Assails Republican Right-Wing
The Associated Press

BOSTON (AP) - Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean invoked American Revolution-era events Tuesday as he lashed out at the Bush administration and the Republican right. Campaigning on a top rival's home turf, Dean reminded a raucous crowd that Bostonians of an earlier time rebelled against tyranny and argued that the today's political environment demands a similar response.

"They had a king named George who had forgotten his people and only listened to special interest," he said, drawing cheers from onlookers, some carrying signs that read "Beantown is Deantown," and "Harvard 4 Howard."

The Republican National Committee fired back, with its own history lesson. "The Boston Tea Party was also a revolt against higher taxes, which is exactly what we can expect from a Howard Dean presidency," said Christine Iverson, an RNC spokeswoman. <snip>

"The extreme right wing has shown nothing but contempt for democracy," Dean said.Pointing to a flag on the platform, he said, "This flag does not belong to Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, John Ashcroft, Tom DeLay and Dick Cheney. This flag belongs to us and we want our country." Dean recalled the founders who outlined the vision for the nation's Constitution. "But at every turn," Dean said, "the Bush administration has turned the Constitution on its head." He said the administration has divided the country "by race, gender, income, religion and sexual orientation." And he said Bush and his team "have capitalized on domestic fears of terrorism for political gain." Dean said special interests have bought influence in the administration - from energy policy to Medicare reform to no-bid contracts in Iraq. And he said Attorney General Ashcroft has drafted a document that has "broken down the mutual trust between the American people and their government" - referring to the USA Patriot Act, which expands law enforcement powers to fight terrorism. "That," Dean said, "is not the act of a patriot." <snip>

Contrast the above with the Guardian version of the AP story:

Howard Dean says his campaign is not about who will be the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee but who will protect democracy and the nation's ideals from the Bush administration. ``Democracy itself is at stake in this election,'' Dean said in Boston. ``The extreme right wing has shown nothing but contempt for democracy.'' Pointing to a flag on the platform, Dean said, ``This flag does not belong to Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, John Ashcroft, Tom DeLay and Dick Cheney. This flag belongs to us and we want our country.''<snip>

Bostonians of the Revolutionary War period stood up to tyranny - and can do so again, Dean said. ``They had a king named George who had forgotten his people and only listened to special interest,'' he said, drawing cheers from the crowd. <snip>

Political analysts say Dean's success in the states with early contests has been closely related to his sharp criticism of the Bush administration, which has tapped into Democrats' anger over Bush policies. Dean said Americans ``are no longer willing to allow the further depletion of our nation's treasury through tax cuts for this administration's wealthiest contributors.'' He criticized extensive political squabbling while ``41 million Americans live without health insurance.'' And he said most are ``no longer willing to accept an administration lying to the American people about the reasons for sending our sons and daughters and brothers and sisters to die in a foreign land.''He recalled the founders who outlined the vision for the nation's Constitution. ``But at every turn,'' Dean said, ``the Bush administration has turned the Constitution on its head.'' He said the administration has divided the country ``by race, gender, income, religion and sexual orientation.'' And he said Bush and his team ``have capitalized on domestic fears of terrorism for political gain.'' Dean said special interests have bought influence in the administration - from energy policy to Medicare reform to no-bid contracts in Iraq. And he said Attorney General John Ashcroft has drafted a document that has ``broken down the mutual trust between the American people and their government'' - referring to the USA Patriot Act, which expands law enforcement powers to fight terrorism. ``That,'' Dean said, ``is not the act of a patriot

I like the Guardian - AP - which was the AP before the GOP rewrite!

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:33 PM
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26. "The Boston Tea Party was also a revolt against higher taxes"
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 04:37 PM by Crisco
Um, no.

the Boston Tea Party was a revolt of commerce being handed over to favored corporations at the expense of local business.

Idiot RNC doesn't know our history.

On edit: best watch out the RNC doesn't revise the Library of Congress archives -

1773

Tea Act. By reducing the tax on imported British tea, this act gave British merchants an unfair advantage in selling their tea in America. American colonists condemned the act, and many planned to boycott tea.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:39 PM
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Well said - and I note the AP did not correct the GOP spin!
:-)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:39 PM
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27. Well said - and I note the AP did not correct the GOP spin!
:-)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:44 PM
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29. Telling it like it is!
I love it, this is our flag also.
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Arun29 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:06 PM
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31. I Was There!
About 2,000 people, maybe more, Copley packed. Almost got to shake hands with him, got very close to him and I must say he looked presidential. Real good mix of people in the crowd. Everybody happy!
Yaw!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:25 PM
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32. Thanks! And Welcome to DU! Arun29
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:40 PM
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35. Wish I could have been there!
Lucky you!!!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:24 AM
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38. Good rhetoric. I'd be happier with it if...
...Dean weren't also copping a "war sucks, but now we're stuck in Iraq" excuse.

The progressive rhetoric's fine. But sooner or later he'll have to become more progressive or stop pretending.
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