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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:21 PM
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U.S. Seeks Dismissal of Moussaoui Case
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Moussaoui.html

U.S. Seeks Dismissal of Moussaoui Case
Filed at 5:00 p.m. ET

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- The government has asked a judge to dismiss all charges against terrorism suspect Zacarias Moussaoui, according to a motion released Thursday. Prosecutors said they made the extraordinary request to hasten an appeal challenging the defendant's right to question al-Qaida prisoners.

Prosecutors want an appellate court to overrule two district court orders that gave Moussaoui the right to question three captives who he says could testify he was not a conspirator in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.


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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:24 PM
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1. wow...
...this is odd. Ive hardey been following this. Seems like a smart guy that knows something that the government doesn't want him to know and hes pushing the right buttons.


This is big IMO. Really big, but perhaps not as big as if he actually gets access to the three captives...what do they have to say? LIHOP?
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:29 PM
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2. WOW! Aschcroft Lost! WOW! This Terrorist goes freakin free!
:wtf:

I can't Freakin Believe this!
:argh:

They must be protecting someone by doing this!
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Romberry Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:48 PM
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13. No, he won't g free.
He will be declared an enemy combatant and sucked into the black hole of legal limbo. Hope he likes the weather at Gitmo.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:31 PM
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3. I wonder what
Colleen Rowley would say about all of this.

Something stinks here so badly that the stench is liable to be smelled all the way to Washington, D.C.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:37 PM
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4. judge obligated to dismiss case??
"The government has argued that national security would be gravely harmed if any details were revealed about the sensitive interrogations or statements made by the prisoners ... federal law says that when a defendant is prevented by court order from disclosing classified information -- in this case the al-Qaida testimony -- the judge is obligated to dismiss the case unless the court determines the interests of justice would be served by another solution.

****

What happened to shifting him to a tribunal where they could play by their own rules? I need more than a wire service story on this one.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:42 PM
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5. If what I have read about this case is correct
they will dismiss this case but he will bve tried by the Military. He is not getting released.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:43 PM
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6. setting him free
yeah i can't believe they'd ever set him free. he could stir up a huge shit storm with one interview. the junta will never take that risk.

i expect him to slip in the shower and somehow shoot himself in the back.


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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:33 PM
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11. Exactly. Colleen Rowley, are you out there?
Are they still joking in the Minnesota office about there being an al Qaeda mole at FBI headquarters?

That Ashcroft won't allow access to Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh is outrageous and damning.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:28 PM
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7. dont be fooled, now he will be tried as an enemy combatant outside review
by the normal federal judiciary methods.

the justice dept had this waiting as an option all along.

it brings new meaning to the term "double jeopardy."
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:39 PM
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8. Exactly. This was their test case.
Now they will use this as an example of why terr'ists can't be handled in the regular judicial system.

Good bye civil rights!!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:28 PM
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9. Off to the brig for him! (Charleston Naval Brig, rooming with

the famous "dirty bomb" terrorist, Jose Padilla, and the sheik famous now for his after-arrest photo with disheveled hair and wearing an undershirt.)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:38 PM
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10. You mean Khalid Sheik Mohammed?
That's one of the guys he wanted to question, right?

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:36 PM
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12. If they get the case dismissed
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 08:36 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Supposedly, they can refile charges and go to a higher (federal?) court, which is much more likely to go along with the prosecution. If that doesn't work then they will go to a military tribunal.

This dude isn't going anywhere for a long time.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:14 PM
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14. Kick
:kick:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:24 PM
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15. Why are they so afraid of this man? What does he know?
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:35 PM
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16. PROOF THAT BUSH DID IT!
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 10:47 PM by Dancing_Dave
Anyone who's spent some time researching the hidden truth about 9/11 can see perfectly well what's going on here. The reason that real open Constitutional trials were replaced by closed military tribunals was keep the truth which would destroy the whole Bush Regime from coming out in real trials. This is the only case where for some rather technical reasons the Government had to actually try to convict someone they accused of being involved in 9/11 in a real open constitutional trial. But then the Judge ruled that the man deserved certain witnesses, but Ashcroft's Justice department wouldn't let those witnesses talk for anything, so they had to throw out the case.

Now, they'll probably try to get him in an unconstitutional closed "tribunal". Or, because there's been so much publicity about this case, it may be in the neo-cons interest to just let the man go.
Whichever happens, we've already seen what kind of a total cover-up they are running.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11 HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE BY ASHCROFTS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. INDEED, ASHCROFTS INJUSTICE DEPARTMENT COVERS-UP THE 9/11 TRUTH THAT WOULD RUIN BUSH, ASHCROFT, RUMSFELD AND THE REST,
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:57 PM
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18. I'm a MIHOP believer all the way.(sad)....But who would say the truth is
nothing but a bowl of cherries.

"ASHCROFTS INJUSTICE DEPARTMENT COVERS-UP THE 9/11 TRUTH "


Mr. Moussaoui is the KARMA Ashcroft needs!!!!

I just pray he will be safe and protected for the TRUTH to
be revealed!!!!!

BUSH/CHENEY are scared to death of this guy!!!!

He is a Martyr without even dying.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:35 PM
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17. NOW THAT WE KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO?
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 10:44 PM by Dancing_Dave
We have to take the 9/11 truth movement to the streets now. There's already a Peace movement that's bringing the people together in activism...we've just got to get our hidden truth of 9/11 into the movement.
:think: :hippie: :toast:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:58 PM
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19. They know.
yet who's gonna arrest these thugs........Guilianni?
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