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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:14 PM
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new Battleground poll: 39% re-elect for Bush
Mods: the following is a press release from the Battleground pollsters, not copyrighted material.

Battleground Poll 2004 Round One Released Thursday 9/25/03 9:30:00 AM

To: National Desk


WASHINGTON, Sept. 25 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Battleground 2004 poll shows that while a majority of voters continue to approve of the job George W. Bush is doing as President (54 percent approve) and a majority of voters continue to approve of President Bush personally (67 percent approve), there has been a consistent drop in the President's job approval ratings over the past few months. The President's job approval ratings have virtually come back down to a pre-Iraqi War level. However, they are still historically positive for a President coming upon a re-election year.

With that said, it should be noted that our data show only 39 percent of voters say they will definitely vote to reelect the President, and Bush only leads the generic Democratic nominee by 4-points, an indication that this is shaping up to be a very close race.

On looking at the economy, a majority of voters disapprove of the handling of the economy by President Bush (46 percent approve/51 percent disapprove), while a plurality of voters also disapprove of the job the Democrats in Congress are doing on handling the economy (41 percent approve/46 percent disapprove). This shows voters clearly have some economic concerns and will hold both the President and the Members of Congress feet to fire.

The views of voters about the economy are equally mixed. Forty-two percent (42 percent) of voters rate the economy as just fair, 34 percent rate the economy as poor, and 24 percent rate it as excellent or good. In addition, in an open-ended format a majority of voters say the best indicator of an improving economy would be a lower unemployment rate or more people working (61 percent). This is quite a strong response and shows the importance of the issue.

Regarding the 2004 Presidential election, Republican pollster Ed Goeas says, "Our latest Battleground Poll not only shows George W. Bush is in a stronger position than his father at a comparable time in his 1992 re-election campaign, but he is also running even or ahead of Bill Clinton's re-elect measurements at a comparable time in his 1996 re-election campaign!"

Democratic pollster Celinda Lake looks at the partisan divide in the electorate and the declining voter confidence in some of President Bush's efforts and states: "this is setting up to be another close election. The electorate is already highly polarized along partisan lines, with very few people in the middle. However, Bush is not doing well with Independents-only 44 percent approve of the job he is doing"

This data and much more will be presented by pollsters Ed Goeas and Celinda Lake on Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 9:30am at the National Press Club in the Holeman Lounge. This bipartisan Battleground 2004 poll surveyed one thousand registered likely voters nationwide and yields a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent. The poll covers views of the current state of America, public opinion on the state of the economy, job approval ratings for the President and the Democrats in Congress and views on who voters trust more on issues of highest concern to them.

Celinda Lake and Ed Goeas are both available for comment. For Celinda Lake, please contact David Cantor at Lake Snell Perry and Associates at 202-776-9066; and for Ed Goeas, please contact Tammi Smith at 703-684-6688. The data is also available via the Internet at http://www.tarrance.com.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:16 PM
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1. remember....
...that Battleground consistently trended toward Bush in 2000.

The data is available in a .pdf at this link:

http://www.tarrance.com/pdf/Battleground2004.pdf
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:24 PM
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2. Remove those phone numbers and contact names
THis is a press release, for the press.

I don't think they would want you posting the contact info at a public website.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:35 PM
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5. the numbers are available...
...on their own web site. These aren't private phone numbers, for pity's sake.

http://www.tarrance.com/battleground.html
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:25 PM
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3. uh oh...
if this keeps up we need to prepare ourselves for at a minimum more terror alerts, and possibly another "terrorist attack"... It's the only way the Bushies and repugs can possibly hope to "win" (apart from touchscreen voting of course)
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:26 PM
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4. That 39% is Bush's approval rating.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise, the only "approval" a politician wants is one's vote in the next election.

39% sounds about right...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:37 PM
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6. yep
That's what politicos always say: the only important number is the re-elect number, and any incumbent below 40 is in REAL trouble. Add to that the fact that Battleground always trends in Bush's favor and I figure his re-elect is about 33.

Big trouble.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:42 PM
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9. interesting analysis here
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:55 PM
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11. Thanks, grasswire. One thing stood out in particular:
"Bush is not doing well among Independents; only 44 percent approve of the job he is doing, and 50 percent disapprove. Nor are they inclined to vote to reelect him (only 29 percent say they definitely will)."

Trouble, indeed...
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:37 AM
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16. That's asymptotically approaching the minimum possible value.
> I figure his re-elect is about 33.

The 39% or so that they're quoting is already asymptotically
approaching the minimum possible value (which is somewhere
near your 33% number). There's a hardcore 33% or so that
believes that God will condemn them to Hell unless they
vote Republican, and, because of that, no Republican
politician or Republican political position ever falls
below that magic number.

If the public polling is putting Bush at 39%, only six points
above that asymptote, I'd say he's just about finished.

Atlant
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:40 PM
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7. Actually, it's a little high, don't you think?
Bush has stolen an election, given his cronies the keys to the federal treasury, trampled on the Bill of Rights and started a war for his own nefarious purposes after predicating it on a pack of lies.

Thirty-nine percent seems awfully high, given all that.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:40 PM
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8. Huh. Fox has him at 50% and these guys
...at 54%? I'd say that tells the story right there.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:46 PM
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10. So where exactly is the data coming from?
Trade secret locations?

Must be. The website won't say.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:20 PM
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12. WTF????
No one else catch this?

On looking at the economy, a majority of voters disapprove of the handling of the economy by President Bush (46 percent approve/51 percent disapprove), while a plurality of voters also disapprove of the job the Democrats in Congress are doing on handling the economy (41 percent approve/46 percent disapprove). This shows voters clearly have some economic concerns and will hold both the President and the Members of Congress feet to fire.

The Democrats in congress?? And just WHO do these people think is in control of both Houses???
:argh:
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:06 AM
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14. Exactly Wednesdays - the Democrats have little to do with the economy
and how it is handled now...They are in the MINORITY in both houses of the Congress, you MORANS, get a brain !!

this number only shows that 46% of the people in this survey are fucking clueless.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:28 PM
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13. Gee...it sounds like it's almost time for another "crisis"...
...something like another "terrorist attack" that will be allowed to happen, maybe? What better excuse for the Bushies to declare martial law and declare that the elections will be postponed "indefinitely"?
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:02 AM
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15. Interesting, this
poll always seems to lean rethug.
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