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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:13 AM
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McCain Trumpets Bush Social Security Plan
For the umpteenth time: WHAT PLAN!?!?!?!?!? :wtf:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050322/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

He also had what he called a "little straight talk" for AARP, the powerful lobby for older citizens that opposes Bush's plan to allow younger workers to divert a portion of their Social Security payroll taxes into personal accounts that could be invested in the stock market in trade for reduced guaranteed benefits.

The group is running television and radio ads during the two-week Easter break while members of Congress are back in their home districts.

"My dear friends at ... AARP, if you don't like our solutions, give us one," McCain said. "Sit down and join us in this debate. Don't block it."

It all went so well that McCain, perhaps enticed by a day riding around in the presidential limousine and aboard Air Force One, decided to accompany Bush to an event Tuesday in Albuquerque, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. McCain had been scheduled to drop off Bush's itinerary after Monday's last stop in Denver.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:21 AM
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1. McCain trumpets...
... *'s skin flute.

Fuck McCain, he's as big of whore as it comes. Anyone who would forgive * after the shit he pulled on him is a cowardly whore.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:50 AM
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17. That's almost exactly what I was going to say!
word for word.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:22 AM
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2. McCain is a shrewd politician, biding his time ...
When the Neo-Con house of cards falls, the GOP will be clamoring to rebuild the Party with the likes of McCain, who for whatever reason, has enough of the American people thinking he is not "such a bad guy."

Thus, giving the U.S. public another opportunity to prove they are fools when it comes to pursuing their political interests.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:26 AM
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3. Red dress, red dress.
And you still aren't getting the nomination in 2008, John.

You lack "core conviction".

But I love the "obstructionist" talking point. I guess it market-tested well, huh?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:30 AM
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4. Oh John McCain you disappoint me.
I try to find affirming things to say about your military service and the hell you endured in Viet Nam, and I try to find praise for your feisty independence you sometimes show.

But after your butt-kissing tour for Dubya on the campaign trail last year and now this endorsement of the Social Security boondoggle, I'm afraid I'm going to have to swear you off for good.

What a disappointment.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 07:26 AM
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13. I know what you mean...
What the hell happened to John McCain?! He doesn't look like the same man, somehow -- when he's with * he looks kind of sick. In fact he often looks like that these days.

I really do wonder what it is that Rove has on people that brings them so sharply to heel after they've made some brave stand against this hideous administration. It happens over and over again... Somehow, probably because it's so public, it feels worse than J. Edgar Hoover's secret blackmail files. The message is just so clear, a version of Nixon's "I will f*** with him like he's never been f***ed with before."

Anyhow, my disappointment with McCain is pretty deep.

Hekate
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 07:30 AM
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14. Hi, Hekate. Your mention of Rove raises the stakes --
-- and maybe that has something to do with the collapse of McCain. I cheered his victory over Dubya in the 2000 New Hampshire primary, thinking maybe that was the end of the Bush era in American politics.

Boy was I wrong.

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goose4739 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:56 PM
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36. McCain Social Security
Don't be disappointed with McCain. He never was on our side.

The crap about him being a moderate and possibly even running with Kerry last year was just more smoke coming out of Karl Rove's fascist machine to obscure the truth.

As long as so many people in this country buy into this crap, it'll be easy for Rove to manipulate them. He's not a genius; he's just got his finger on the pulse of the country...and it's slo-o-o-o-w!!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:37 AM
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22. I feel the same way. I was always one of John's supporters
here on DU when many others were slamming him. I actually switched my Party Registration so I could vote for him in the Primary when I lived in Pa. I enjoyed his straight talk and his fight against the establishment on a lot of issues.

I am very disappointed in John over the last few years. He still is one of the few rational voices in the Senate on many issues, but by falling into the slimey part of political talk, he's lost me.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:30 AM
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26. McCain has always had his own best interests in sight
He is and always has been a butt-kisser and a rightwing shill of the worst kind.

He has always been against reproductive choice for women.

He has always been for the corporations.

He has always been blindly pro-military.

He will never do anything to destroy his party, because he knows that the destruction of something so powerful would not leave him any power. Would he be asked to take over leadership should this house of cards fall? Maybe, but he wouldn't be successful in putting it back together. He's a follower, not a leader. That's why he caved so easily to the booooosh attack.

Sometimes I think people see in him the same thing they see in John Kerry: the ability to survive under fire on a day to day basis, but not the ability to see the big picture for the long term. It's that long-term vision that makes winners. McCain doesn't have it, and sadly, I don't think Kerry does either.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:39 AM
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5. Plan? We don't got no plan. We don't need no stinkin' plan!
<paraphrased from the "Treasure of the Sierra Madras-Redux"
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:57 AM
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6. I'm really sorry to hear McCain went over to the dark side.
That a man who withstood years of torture would give up his integrity says something about the institution.

This is another sad day for us all.

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:08 AM
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8. That ain't no joke
How sick and how WEAK of McCain to do this. Everyone has flaws but McCains is sad and pathetic. Where is his integrity?? And I see us continuing the war on the entire world if he gets into office.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:59 AM
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11. McCain supports torture.
Confirmed AG Gonzales.

He is no longer entitled to any respect for the torture he suffered.

I'm a vet and he betrayed us all.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:01 PM
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37. McCain has always been on the dark side
Some people just fell for his shit eating grin.

Don

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:04 AM
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7. McCain likes to be seen flogged publicly
by a person he knows is a liar and thief. WTF does that say about McCain?
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:20 AM
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9. 'birds of a feather flock together'
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:24 AM
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10. John McCain!!!! Here's a solution. Stop demanding a solution to a
problem YOU FUCKING CREATED AND WANT TO FUCK UP EVEN MORE. Go ask your fucking leader what his solution is. He just said to the Press Corps he doesn't have one.
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yo-yo-ma Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 07:25 AM
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12. or is it a blackmail
the repugs holding over him

so they can trot him out when convenient

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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:12 AM
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15. What? * himself says he has no plan. So... is there a secret plan?
And if Mc would but read AARP literature, he would note several ideas for plans.

These are called IRA's, personal investments, savings, and then there's fiscal responsibility on the part of Congress.

For, what individuals do you know who could keep running a household, let alone a life, in complete and utter deficit and debt? Nooooo, we would be denied life -- cut off and practically thrown into debtor's prison.

Mc shredded his credibility and dignity long ago -- when he let Rove fuck hiim over him in the 2000 primaries. And then, bent to kiss * ring.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:17 AM
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16. Exactly - that is his purported reason for the town hall meetings
to get ideas (or so he has said multiple times);

-Of course - only republicans can attend
-Those on the "panel" rehearse multiple times before the event
-And anyone who even slightly veers from the script is shuffled off the stage before the event.

One thinks - the way he trots out even on controversial issues and supports bushco - that they know he has the popularity to win the nom next time - and if they coopt him now (and he follows willingly) they can sell it to him as a win win - they clear out opposition in the primaries (as they did for bushjr in 1999) - and they get used to "managing" him now - so they no longer fear his maverick reputation. (re = they = roveco)
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:00 AM
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18. McCain
McCain is a spineless son-0f-a-bitch.Going out of his way to bat for a guy who spread rumors and stabbed him in the back during the primaries in 2000.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:12 AM
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19. this John McCain?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:21 AM
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20. Someone please remove the tubes on this turd!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:23 AM
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21. You want solutions, McCain? Here are two
Edited on Tue Mar-22-05 10:15 AM by rocknation
Remove the salary cap on SS payroll deductions, and ROLL BACK THE TAX CUTS!!!

http://www.syntheticniche.com/ss

:headbang:
rocknation
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:37 AM
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23. McCain dutifully executes the Republicult psyops:
The Republicultists have no "plan" to save Social Security. The diversion of funds to these vaporous "private accounts" is merely the plan to destroy Social Security. But they keep repeating that the opposition has to come up with a "plan to save Social Security". Any formulation of an alternative would merely give RoveCo material to grind up and distort in their campaign to destroy the program.

The Republicult is vile, evil, and cynically disingenuous.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:55 AM
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24. McCain is a whipped dog.
Whipped dog.

Whipped dog. Whipped dog. Whipped dog. Whipped dog.

Keep repeating it. That is his new name.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:29 AM
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25. Upon closer inspection,
the Trumpet was found to be sticking out of John McCain's ass.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:37 AM
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27. John McWhore, oops, I mean McCain
I voted for him in the primaries in 2000, and he has shown himself to be a sychophant and a wuss ever since, kissing up to Bush after the things he said about McCain and his wife in 2000: discussing her drug problem and something about an illegitimate baby, meant to hurt McCain and his family. So malicious.

A real man would have never sucked up to someone who orchestrated those lies. God forbid he becomes president in 2008.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:09 AM
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30. All whores have Johns.
:shrug:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:40 AM
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31. Yes, and Bush
is the perfect John for this whore.

Did you all hear at the press dinner last weekend, Bush said something about McCain being a dog and rolling over for him all of the time? I will see if I can find the link.

McCain should be completely humiliated by this.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:40 AM
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28. What 'debate' is McCain talking about?
For Bush & McCain...it's their way or the highway. They don't want a debate...they want concessions and compromise where there should be none.

When will the American people finally realize that Bush & McCain (and the entire GOP) get their way by lying and deception?

McCain was among those saying there were WMD in Iraq and that an invasion would be a 'cakewalk'. Why should anyone believe these fools now?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:44 AM
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29. C'mon, John, hit the high note...
Hit that triple-high "C" and maybe George will give you a doggie biscuit!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:48 PM
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35. The mutt
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 11:46 AM
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32. Here's the link..Maureen Dowd wrote about it
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/opinion/17dowd.html?th

Entitled: "A Wink and a Fraud"

<snip>At the Gridiron, Mr. Bush slyly joked that he had the "dangedest puppy" who would roll over on command - but only some of the time. "I renamed him 'John McCain.' <end snip> and

<snip>I may have gotten a presidential wink, but I still don't have my regular White House pass back. (Maybe I'd get it back if I became a male escort?) But Bush aides have now decided to let in a blogger. Maybe they're grateful that bloodhound bloggers ran off Dan Rather.

But this White House may not like New Media any more than Old Media. It's already moved on to Fake Media. <end snip>


Nicely snarky, no???
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:12 PM
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33. '...AARP, if you don't like our solutions,
give us one,'...

cuz we don't have a clue...we're drowning here, throw us a rope.

Any number of solutions R out there - it is just they don't include lining wall street pockets so alternative 'solutions' R not being considered. STFU, mccain...stop groveling!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:44 PM
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34. Even McCain can't save Bush on Social Security
For once, the public sees through Bush. They know he doesn't want to save Social Security, but phase it out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:11 PM
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38. bush's plan is whatever compromize that will be reached and it WILL
be reached as they WANT THIS very BADLY
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:18 PM
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39. I Didn't Know Assholes Could Grow White Hair
Sellout Friggin' WHORE:puke: :mad: :puke:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:30 PM
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40. McCain is such a traitorous whore. He would sell his own
Grandmother for power and money.
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