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linda d Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:31 AM
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white house briefing
poor scott mcclellan -- he's getting hammered re the wilson/plame story.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:34 AM
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1. TalkingPointsMemo Link
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:47 AM
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22. Wow!
Thanks for the link!
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:34 AM
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2. You pity him?
If he works for the devil, he's a demon.

Cheers,
ADAM

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:34 AM
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3. Do tell..! Details for the tv-deprived, please!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:36 AM
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5. The Reporters arent stopping they are hammering him
demanding he make the WH accountable...bringing up ROVES name...but McClellan keeps bringing up the Dept of Justice as being in charge..
The Press wont let up..they keep demanding the WH expand the effort to find out who leaked...
But McClellan keeps trying to say the WH doesnt have time....
The Press wont let up...
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:38 AM
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7. doesn't have time?
Geez, how about cutting out a couple of fund-raisers and actually doing some work?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:44 AM
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13. funny, Clinton had bullshit charges against him all 8 years
and still managed to produce a peaceful and prosperous administration. Bush doesn't even have time to pay lip service to these charges and still he fucks up the coutnry at every turn.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:52 PM
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52. Well you know, it does take some serious hard work
to fuck up a country (and several others too) this completely.
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:27 PM
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50. Ask WHO is autorized to know an ID. Karl is not, awol and Condi.
Karl would have had to get the identity of a CIA agent from someone who is authorized (he is not). Condi and the deserter are authorized to know that information.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:34 AM
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4. Please update for those at work or cableless
cableless?

thanks
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:38 AM
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6. Helen Thomas going after him!
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 11:40 AM by Mari333
so are the rest...McClellan keeps saying "If you know something, tell us"...but then "The WH doesnt have time to investigate, we are giving it back to the DOJ"
Roves name is mentioned by reporters over and over..........by reporters....

Reporter: "Bush promised Honesty and Integrity in the WH and now someone in his OWN admin leaks a serious crime?????? what is going on when you say the WH wont do anything??"


McClellan answers with same DOJ shit
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:40 AM
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9. Wahooo!
We're witnessing the beginning of the end for these creeps.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 04:04 PM
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54. The thing is -- I'm getting tired of witnessing the beginning of the end
without witnessing the end.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:39 AM
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8. David Corn putting the screws to him
pretty good now.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:42 AM
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10. McClellan wants the subject to change
But the reporters wont stop

"why wont the president be pro active about this? Wilson was on TV and this needs to be investigated..isnt the Pres concerned when a leak occurs of this magnitude??"

McClellan again says DOJ....
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Squibbie Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:44 AM
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14. Feeding Frenzy - at least the hors doeuvre-
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 11:46 AM by lshles
It's at the top of Drudge, the WH briefing won't quit,
top of Blitzer!
Oh Happy Day! Oh Happy Day!
It's not going away!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:44 AM
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15. Shit! They cut it off!!
I guess I have to wait for the C-SPAN repeat. Did they really think that they could get away with this manuever (the leaking, not the cutting off of the press briefing), or am I just asking a rhetorical question?
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linda d Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:48 AM
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24. cnn/ wolf blitzer
props to cnn -- they are giving live airtime for a discussion of what the actual consequences are to outing an agent; how all of the contacts of that agent are now compromised.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:42 AM
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11. Well, what did I just say?
Ooh nasty.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:44 AM
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12. He is getting DRILLED!
Asked about Cheney--categorically denies his involvement. Yeah, right!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:48 AM
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23. White House Denies Rove Leaked Secret Information
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=786200

excerpt:

Under the Intelligence Identities and Protection Act, the unauthorized identification of a CIA operative is a criminal act punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison.

McClellan said Bush had no patience for such activities and suggested anyone involved would be fired.

...more...

was nice to see Rove in the headline on this one -

and fired?????

how about "imprisoned"???
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:45 AM
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16. INSIDIOUS TREASON!
TREASON!!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:45 AM
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17. Did someone just say that?
Please tell me a reporter said that to McClellan...
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:46 AM
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18. Asking about Rove
He didn't ask if Rove made calls..."I've known Karl a long time. No need to ask him."

Unbelievable!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:48 AM
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25. We need a special prosecuters office!!
independent investigation...these bastards better not get away with this!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:14 PM
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41. So we ar e to believe that they didn't discuss THIS today
in preparation for the Press Conference? Oh please.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:16 PM
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42. does he know him back from his Nixon days?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:46 AM
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19. reporter says DOJ as investigating is conflict of interest
McClellan denies it, says DOJ is in charge..
another reporter bringing up Rove and Novack...McClellan denies it and is backing up Rove..says he is a man of integrity...
Reporter asks if Rove knew about Wilsons wife...reporter asks McClellan if Rove was involved...MCClellan says no he was not involved ...!!!!
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:46 AM
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20. This PC is ALL about Wilson!
Go press whores!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:48 AM
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26. They are eating him up check this out
QUESTION: You spoke to Rove specifically about this matter? You asked him whether or not he was the leaker, or --

McCLELLAN: I don't know what the relevance of getting into every private conversation, John -- is, John. I've made it very clear that it's simply not true.

QUESTION: Based on what?

QUESTION: Based on what?

QUESTION: What are you basing -- what are you --

McCLELLAN: Someone asked me if I had spoken with him, and I said, yes.

QUESTION: And you spoke with him about this issue?

QUESTION: Did you ask him, directly?

McCLELLAN: I have spoken with him, yes.

QUESTION: But the President hasn't spoken with him directly about this issue? You have and the President hasn't?

McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Keith.

QUESTION: Well, that was the question.

McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

QUESTION: You spoke directly with Rove about this?

McCLELLAN: I have spoken -- I speak to him all the time, on a lot of things.

QUESTION: He categorically denied to you --

McCLELLAN: I just told you, it's simply not true.

QUESTION: Yes, but you refuse to say whether or not it was Rove who told you it's untrue.

McCLELLAN: No, no, I spoke to Rove. I spoke to him about -- no, I spoke to him about these accusations, I've spoken to him.

QUESTION: And Rove told you that they were not true --

McCLELLAN: That's why I would be telling --

QUESTION: -- or is it just you --

McCLELLAN: That's why I would be telling you what I did.

QUESTION: -- or is it just you who is telling us?

McCLELLAN: No, I have spoken to him and been assured. And that's why I reported to you and reported to the media that it is simply not true. I like to check my sources, just like you do.

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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:51 AM
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27. he still hasn't answered
what a dick
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 04:08 PM
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55. The White House is really slow on this one --
they haven't picked out their scapegoat and offered his head up for dissection. If they're not careful, this might go far enough that the actual culprit could be identified. How far further up the chain could that be?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:46 AM
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21. What, is he clairvoyant? How does he know? (about W)
That was funny but not answered.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:51 AM
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28. McClellan keeps demanding DOJ is an independent counsel
and wont be biased..Bullshit
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:53 AM
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29. OOO reporter says same issue with Whitewater and Clinton!!
why a special prosecuter THEN and not one NOW????????????/
McClellan says "I resent that statement"
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:54 AM
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30. I don't feel sorry for him...It's about time the shit hits the fan..if
it hits him...too bad..so sad.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:57 AM
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31. There he goes again
Linking 9/11 and Iraq. Aggghhhhhhhh!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:00 PM
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32. ack the same old shit
wont answer the reporters questions about the lies before the Iraq invasion , just uses the spin "Saddam was a bad man yadayadayada"
Now saying David Kay has "just started his effort"..
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:00 PM
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33. Reamed again!!!
Where are WMDs? CP said there were none in 2001. Where did intelligence come from to attack Iraq

SM: That's not what he said. 9/11 changed everything, the world is safer, a brutal despot has been deposed blah blah blah.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:01 PM
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34. "I resent that statement,"
"Yet I cannot refute it."

PASS THE POPCORN!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:02 PM
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35. CSPAN to the rescue
They cut away when SM couldn't keep his lies straight.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:05 PM
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37. CNN still reporting it at top of news
keep playing Wilson over and over calling the WH "schoolyard bullies"..
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Squibbie Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:08 PM
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38. Frog March Time
Please let it be true.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:11 PM
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39. Ahem don't you mean "Freedom March"
Welcome to DU :hi:

All apologies to the French, those of French lineage, those Freedom Marchers in the 60's, and anyone offended by that..........that is what they mean though.
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Squibbie Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:19 PM
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43. Thanks, Underpants.
Thanks for the greeting. I almost decided not to come back 'cause of the inane flaming. Your greeting helps me hang around a little longer.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:32 PM
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45. .
I pretty much stay in LBN or the Lounge. GD is out of control and goes to quickly to have any substantive discussions. As far as the candidate threads I don't read them. I can make up my mind on my own and I know that we are all going to vote for whoever gets nominated anyway. BTW-It's Kerry or Clark, the other have no shot.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:35 PM
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51. 'Freedom March' Is Beautiful, My Friend!
It succeeds on so many levels, not the least of which is that marching these reptiles out in chains will commence a new day of freedom from tyranny and usurpation in our country.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:06 PM
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48. LOL! Fantastic.
And thanks to all you posters from all us cube rats!

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:05 PM
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36. i'm confused
last week or there abouts wasn't there a story about bush* not reading newspapers and relying on his advisors for the news? now mcclellan is saying all they know is what the media has reported.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:13 PM
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40. He is basically telling them that they will have to find out for themselve
s

Also it could be spin to try to paint this as a "liberal media" :eyes: withchunt but mostly I think it is just the first thing they could think up.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:30 PM
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44. Great someone breeches national security from the White House
and they are only learning about it by watching the news? THey don't care to learn how serious of a breech on intel on Weapons of Mass Destruction... Gee that makes the country feel secure.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:40 PM
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46. I'm proud of our Press they pounded him! DOJ is appointed
not elected Aschcroft is Bush's man and he is investigating his own!

We need an Independant Counsel! :bounce:
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MiniMoog Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 12:52 PM
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47. they always steal my stuff
Last night on a separate thread I suggested this very line of questioning to go on the record.

QUESTION: Scott, The Washington Post is reporting that the President is not going to ask his top aides about it, who did the leak. Is that true? And, if not, why not?

McCLELLAN: Well, what did I just say? I think I just answered that question. I said that there has been nothing that has been brought to our attention, beyond what we've seen in the media reports, to suggest that there was White House involvement.

QUESTION: Is anyone going to, at least, you know, ask around? Say, what's the deal with --

McCLELLAN: And, secondly, the Department of Justice is the appropriate agency to look into matters like this.

MiniMoog
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:08 PM
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49. This is getting good
Cnn is now saying how routine this type of leak is. 50 times a year or so. Bob Novak to speak his piece on Crossfire this afternoon.
Ya gotta love how nobody knows anything. Maybe 10 years of prison hanging over their heads will make someone remember.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 03:33 PM
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53. Nahhh, they won't confess. I'm sure one of the *ites has enough
$$$ lying around to take care of the possibe prisoner and family for a lifetime. Heck, maybe even hand 'em a position in the NEW democratised ME!!

They either stay put and stay shut-mouthed or they are found dead someplace. Which makes me start thinking about Kelley....hmmm
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