Democrats: Homeland Security Omits Threats From Right-Wing Terror Groups

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBXHQ1NQ7E.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Homeland Security Department is focusing on possible terror threats from radical environmental and animal rights activists without also examining risks that might be posed by right-wing extremists, House Democrats said Tuesday.

A recent internal Homeland Security document lists the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front with a few Islamic groups that could potentially support al-Qaida as domestic terror threats.

The document does not address threats posed by white supremacists, violent militiamen, anti-abortion bombers and other extremists that Rep. Bennie G. Thompson, D-Miss., called "right-wing hate groups."

ALF and ELF "are the left-leaning groups that they identified," said Thompson, the top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee. "But they absolutely left out any of the other groups."

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[xultar]

1. WOW we figured that much...why cuz we weren't @ RED ever effin day

on the crayon terra chart.

[MisterP]

2. one hurts profits, the other only kills women and gays and policemen

and other expendables. We can't have profits hurt, now can we?
:crazy:

[catzies]

3. A very good point to bring up on Oklahoma bombing's 10th anniversary

:thumbsup: Rep. Thompson!

[Melodybe]

7. Yay! Makes me proud to be a MS democrat!

[Hosnon]

4. I hate to even whisper it

but I think the Democrats are finally getting their sh*t together.

The right-wing hate groups listed MOST definitely belong on the list along with ELF and the other left-wing hate groups.

Title 22 of the US Code, Section 2656f(d):

The term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.

Dragging deaths, abortion bombings, etc. meet this definition so why aren't they on the list?

This is partisan politics at its worst.:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Lorien]

6. Because burning a lot of $40,000 SUVs

is a bigger crime to these thugs than murdering women, blacks, gays, or State workers.

[frictionlessO]

14. Agree with everything but ELF and ALF are definetly not "hate" groups...

The only targets they have really gone after have been properties, if they were hate groups they would have gone after the owners as well.

ELF and ALF and others like them while commiting crimes still care about life (for the most part anyway). ELF and ALF are by my guess well infiltrated by now. Many of the original members are well aware of that as both foreign and domestic agencies have long used these kinds of groups to place agents of provocation, usually for a multitude of possible POLITICLE motives rather than any sort of threat they pose to fellow humans.

Sorry to be so long winded, when it regards our more fringe groups on the left I feel a need to remind people that our radicals aren't even a tenth as dangerous as our oppositions especially speaking in black and white terms.

Peace!

[truthisfreedom]

5. next, the Democrats have to list the number of these right-wing terrorist

groups that have killed civilians and how many, and compare those numbers to left-wing groups.

[Lorien]

8. Have ANY left wing groups murdered?

They talk about ELF being a terrorist group, but since when have McMansions, bulldozers and Hummers felt terror? Vandals yes, but terrorists? I think not.

The KKK on the other hand...

[Zorra]

9. This is very scary news. Everyone ready for the big liberal roundup

at the definitely not OK corral?

[Hobarticus]

10. This is staggering...McVeigh and Reynolds are TERRORISTS

Plain and simple.

[ThumperDumper]

11. I hate this about the media!

If something is a FACT than REPORT it as a FACT!

When you report it like this:
"House Democrats said Tuesday."
it makes it sound like just something Democrats are saying.

Here, let me rewrite that headline:

Homeland Security Omits Threats From Right-Wing Terror Groups

[PSPS]

13. Yeah, that's what passes for "journalism" today

Nothing but, "he said, she said," and it's 30! Where's the next cocktail party? Where's my White House check?

[PSPS]

12. What's the surprise?

The Homeland Security Department itself is a creation of a "Right-Wing Terrorist Group." The name of that group is the Bush Administration.

[sam sarrha]

15. what about the threats to our country, its constitution by the NEOCON's

[The Blue Knight]

16. Good thing they have leftist groups...

Which were responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing!

/sarcasm off.

[rainbow4321]

17. Democrats: Homeland Security Dept. Omits Right-Wing Threats

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TERROR_THREATS_REPORT?SITE=TXDAM&TEMPLATE=NATIONALSECURITY.html&SECTION=HOME


The Homeland Security Department is focusing on possible terror threats from radical environmental and animal rights activists without also examining risks that might be posed by right-wing extremists, House Democrats said Tuesday.

A recent internal Homeland Security document lists the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front with a few Islamic groups that could potentially support al-Qaida as domestic terror threats.

The document does not address threats posed by white supremacists, violent militiamen, anti-abortion bombers and other extremists that Rep. Bennie G. Thompson, D-Miss., called "right-wing hate groups."

"If your responsibility is to protect the homeland from these domestic terrorists, then you have an obligation to identify all of them - not just some of them," Thompson said

[Arkana]

18. Is it me, or are the Dems growing a...a spine?

This is amazing--it's like watching a sleeping giant awakening, realizing what's going on, and starting to get very, very angry.

[zara]

19. it's just you.

barney frank is not representative of our party

[zara]

20. oops

obviously misread that one. oh well

[Arkana]

21. What?

What are you talking about?

[hvn_nbr_2]

24. They seem to be, don't they?

Here's an old thread on the subject:

"Boxer Donates Stem Cells, Democrats Grow New Spines"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1587849

[indepat]

22. HS does not view right-wing hate groups as potential domestic terrorist

threats: how very interesting considering you are either with us or against us.

[ClintonTyree]

23. The Republicans call them....

their base. Homeland Security (god, how I loathe that term) realizes that these organizations are fighting on THEIR side. You know, the fascist, theocratic side.

[bushisanidiot]

25. McVeigh's freeptard followers thank you, President PUSSY!

whatcha waitin' for boy George? another oklahoma city type bombing?

idiot.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

26. Can't anger the base!!

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[Catchawave]

27. An Interview with Rod Coronado

http://www.earthfirstjournal.org/efj/feature.cfm?ID=187&issue=v23n3

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EF!J: The ALF and Earth Liberation Front (ELF) have been spun by the corporate media as domestic terrorists. Do you think economic sabotage is still viable in the current political climate?

RC: Direct action is more important now than ever because of today’s political climate. Let’s be real. If we really believe that we are part of a real resistance struggle then we have to expect that our effectiveness is going to be seen not only in our impacts on the Earth-destroying industries, but inevitably reflected more so in repressive government attacks. The more dangerous that it is to do ELF and ALF actions, the more important it becomes to carry them out. Repression is intended to intimidate others from engaging in acts of resistance. It means we just have to continue to evolve and be clever, just like Coyote.

Let’s again look at the history of resistance in North America. One hundred years ago, the US and Mexican governments referred to my people as “blood-thirsty savages” or “indios diablos.” Now, they call us “ecoterrorists.” If Jesus Christ were alive today doing what he did, they’d call him a terrorist too. The punishments for direct action resistance are so high because it is a tactic the state genuinely fears. Direct action is about taking a very unpopular stance at a very necessary time.

The ALF or ELF will never be hailed as heroes in our time. Their roles will be seen more clearly in 100 years when the ecological shortsightedness of our present government is realized. Some people say that in a “post-September 11” world there’s less room for direct action. But that’s exactly what the Consumer Freedom whores want us to believe. They’re exploiting September 11 to push their own agenda, while hoping it will force us to compromise ours.

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[Catchawave]

28. Center for Consumer Freedom :

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "
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We need more Rod Coronados !

[seemslikeadream]

29. Democrats: HSD Omits Right-Wing Threats

By LARA JAKES JORDAN Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Apr 20, 2005 — The Homeland Security Department is focusing on possible terror threats from radical environmental and animal rights activists without also examining risks that might be posed by right-wing extremists, House Democrats said Tuesday.

A recent internal Homeland Security document lists the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front with a few Islamic groups that could potentially support al-Qaida as domestic terror threats.

The document does not address threats posed by white supremacists, violent militiamen, anti-abortion bombers and other extremists that Rep. Bennie G. Thompson, D-Miss., called "right-wing hate groups."

ALF and ELF "are the left-leaning groups that they identified," said Thompson, the top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee. "But they absolutely left out any of the other groups."
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=687014

[wtmusic]

30. We can't open that can of worms

if we acknowledge that Republicans can be Terrorists, who KNOWS where that might lead?? :D

[Catchawave]

31. "You too could be a terrorist"

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/5246/view/print

The Fringe: You Too Might Be A Terrorist!

The War On The Greens
David Case is the executive editor of TomPaine.com.

If you've ever given money to an environmental organization, if you support the movement's agenda, then you're probably part of a grand conspiracy that's degrading life in America. Worse yet, you might even be a terrorist, or at least an accomplice. At least that's what Nick Nichols seems to think.

Nichols' views wouldn't matter if he were just another backwoods loser. On the contrary, environmental watchdogs fear he's at the vanguard of efforts to exploit the nation's post-September 11th mood by tarring the entire green movement as extremists. Nichols acts under the pretext that, "If environmental groups cost business money, then they're eco-terrorists," says Dan Barry, of the Clearinghouse for Environmental Advocacy and Research (CLEAR), which tracks anti-environmental groups.

Nichols is the CEO of "crisis communication" firm Nichols Dezenhall. The firm doesn't reveal its clients, but they have reportedly included business pillars such as Audi, Arco and the Society of the Plastics Industry. He's also popular on the nation's lecture circuit.

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[cascadiance]

32. Nice to know how even now another Eric Rudolph wouldn't be on HS's radar!

You'd think that they'd learn that wingnuts can be terrorists too!

But no, that's not acceptable to voice as the right wing mantra on Sundays...

[Shallah Kali]

33. This article is on Yahoo - please give it a 5!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=703&e=4&u=/ap/20050420/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terror_threats_report

Also a KRT article on the same topic:
Domestic terrorism still a threat
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/krwashbureau/20050418/ts_krwashbureau/_bc_usterror_wa_1

It is outrageous that they are deliberately ignoring certain groups who have proven themselves threats. Whether it is because the Bush admin. wishes to cater to those who sympathize with these groups or out and out support them or they are ignoring the RW threats it puts all of us in danger. People should loose their job over this.