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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:35 AM
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Howard Dean renews call for Bush to return money raised by Noe
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050601/NEWS09/506010368

COLUMBUS - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean yesterday charged President Bush with using money during last year's campaign that was "tainted" by Toledo-area coin dealer Tom Noe, who is being investigated for allegedly misappropriating millions of dollars in Ohio money.

The prominent Republican gained a special "pioneer" fund-raising status during Mr. Bush's re-election campaign last year because he helped collect $100,000 to $250,000 for the President. But now, Mr. Noe, who has received $50 million from the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation since 1998 to invest in rare coins, could be facing civil and criminal charges for allegedly misappropriating at least $10 million of the state's money.

"Tom Noe's name has been added to the growing list of big-time contributors to President Bush's re-election campaign being investigated for criminal wrongdoing," Mr. Dean said in a statement released yesterday to The Blade.

"Noe was given special status and special access by the Bush-Cheney campaign as a Pioneer donor, but there are now signs that the money he used to acquire this special status was tainted."

...more...

:yourock: Howard!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:39 AM
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1. You tell 'em Good Doctor! No mincing words from Dean.
Noe stole money from the citizens of Ohio.
Noe gave the stolen money to the Bush / Cheney re-election campaign.
Bush accepts dirty stolen money.
Shouldn't he give it back to the victims???
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:48 AM
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2. As Dean continues to give the gop a good, well-deserved spanking
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 08:54 AM by cryingshame
what a great way to start the day.

This is a great way to put em on defense.

Great talking point.

Nominated
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:49 AM
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3. Is the MSM picking up Dean's comment?
I get so tired of hearing people on this board say that the Dems should say things like this. I believe that the Dems do say these things--it's just that we don't hear about them because the MSM don't report them.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:53 AM
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4. A(lways)B(roadcasting)C(rap) has not said one thing about
the Noe/GOP/Ohio Coin SCANDAL.

Why would anyone think that it was important :sarcasm:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:42 AM
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10. Precisely!
Anything the gopers do criminally insane..the msm blithely ignores.

If a Democrat does something wrong it's spread all over 24/7.

We won't have much of a chance of winning until we're able to hold the media accountable..somehow, someway.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:21 AM
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5. YYeeessss...
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:25 AM
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6. Chump change
good call Doc.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:33 AM
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7. go dean eom
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:39 AM
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8. Noe to Face Federal Grand Jury

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=3415031

TOLEDO -- A federal grand jury will start hearing the case of Toledo-area Republican donor Tom Noe on Wednesday. Jurors will decide whether Noe should go to trial on charges he violated federal campaign finance laws during the 2004 presidential election.

At issue is a $2,000 a plate fundraiser for the Bush/Cheney campaign in October of 2003 in Columbus. Several local Republicans were at the event, including Toledo City Councilwoman Betty Shultz, County Commissioner Maggie Thurber and GOP Chairwoman Sally Perz. The grand jury will investigate if Noe bypassed federal election limits by giving money to others, and having them donate it back to the Bush campaign.

The Columbus event raised about $1.5 million dollars for the Bush/Cheney campaign. By that time, Noe had already donated the maximum $2,000 individual contribution to the Bush/Cheney campaign, so any more money traced back to him would be illegal.

The grand jury will decide whether Noe will go to trial. "Well, the whole process is to determine if there's enough evidence of a crime to indict somebody," said UT Law Professor Dan Steinbock. "The standard for the grand jury is whether there is probably cause--a fair probability--that a crime was committed and people named in the indictment committed it."...

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:39 AM
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9. As an Ohioan, I have DEMANDED my money back
And every person who does business in Ohio who has watched their Worker's Comp rate SKYROCKET the past several years, ought to ask too.

I firmly believe given enough shovels, we would uncover that this money belongs to Ohioans. Period
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:56 AM
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11. GOP SOP - steal from ordinary people, preferrably pension money
which isn't watched as closely, and give to Bush's base: the Haves and the Have Mores.

Bush isn't the only GOPer who got money. All of them should give back every cent stolen from both the disabled and the working people of Ohio.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:53 PM
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16. Take from the tax coffers and Gift it to the Oligarchy
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:18 PM
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14. In addition to all the money Ohioans lost......
due to the Enron scandal, which of course, is no longer a scandal because some court just said it's A-OK to steal money from people and lie and cheat.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:01 PM
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17. Yeah, I heard that this morning, SCOTUS overturned AA conviction
gag...my country SUCKS right now.
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apple_ridge Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:17 AM
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12. Why isn't Dean walking around with copies of the
Downing Street Memo? Every democrat should be walking and talking that subject 24/7.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:52 AM
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13. So what you are saying is: the crooked financed a crook for prez?
Sooooooooooo hard to believe.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:40 PM
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15. Pardon Me Dr. Dean...
Can you please make the rounds and talk about the Resolution to Inquiry? I am sick of the paper filing and "calling on" stuff. I want to see the good doctor front and center. Why is Conyers always forced to stand alone?

Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:00 PM
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18. There are so many Bush scandals
that no one person can handle them all.

What have you done? I belong to a group that gets together once a month to write letters to the editor. It's very hard to know which issue to tackle because there are so many.

But I would hate to have someone criticize us because we didn't ride their own hobby horse that month.
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