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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:57 AM
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Nixon aides(thugs and crooks)condemn 'Deep Throat' for betrayal
Aides to the late president Richard Nixon said that former FBI deputy director Mark Felt, unmasked as the anonymous Watergate source known as "Deep Throat," had breached professional ethics by leaking information.

G. Gordon Liddy, a Nixon operative who engineered the 1972 break-in at the Democratic National Campaign headquarters in the Watergate building in Washington, and served four and a half years in jail for it, said Felt "violated the ethics of the law enforcement profession."

"If he possessed evidence of wrongdoing, he was honor-bound to take that to a grand jury and secure an indictment, not to selectively leak it to a single news source," Liddy, now a popular conservative radio talk show host, told CNN television.

"Deep Throat," named after an emblematic porn film of the time, helped Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein draw connections between the break-in and the White House, eventually leading to Nixon's resignation under threat of impeachment.

Forty Nixon aides were indicted as a result of the break-in in which burglars planted listening devices to spy on the Democrats during an election campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050601/ts_alt_afp/uswatergatedeepthroat_050601141959&printer=1
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Jon_da_brockman Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:58 AM
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1. So do FReepers
Revealing, huh?
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:13 PM
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35. Some Freeper statements about this
"Felt, Woodward, and Bernstein are now members of the Hate the United States crowd and join the ranks of such stalwarts as:
Jayson Blair
Dan Rather
Newsweek
Jane Fonda

I believe that Woodward and Bernstein would whore out their Mothers, Wives and Daughters for the BIG STORY! They really are pimps!"
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"Deep Throat - illegally leaked FBI intelligence about Presidential malfeasance direct to the media instead of convening a Grand Jury - "National Hero"

Linda Tripp - Refused, when pressured, to lie under oath to cover up Presidential malfeasance, gave information to prosecutor - "Snitch" !

Someone care to explain?"
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"IT'S THE MONEY!!! They've got this addled 90 something granpa who once got p...d cause he didn't get the promotion and typical liberal stuck it to Nixon instead of having the guts to deal with it. So grandpa is on his way out and his daughter wants to cash in on her golden goose before he croaks! After he's dead, he is worthless...excuse me worthless financially! This story is not that complicated. A bunch of people got rich before on the story and now Felt'sdaughter doesn't want to miss out on the money. Guess she learned her pettyness from dear old dad....


Guess I understand better WHY Stalin knocked off so many around him.
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"Time to charge him.

I don't care if he does have Alzheimer's.

Treason is treason -"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:59 AM
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2. te he--now they talks of ethics!!--what a bunch of whinny brats.


.....had breached professional ethics by leaking information.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:59 AM
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3. Quotes and video here as well
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:01 AM
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4. G. Gordon Liddy lecturing ANYONE on ethics
I'm sure he doesn't see anything ironic about it.

--p!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:30 AM
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17. I met G Liddy
that was a surreal experience on New Year's Eve. He's a little dude by the way.

Heard him quoted on tv last night that John Dean ordered the break in.

what a slimeball.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:01 AM
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5. G. Gordon Liddy talking about honor
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
That psychopath wouldn't know honor if it bit him on the ass.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 AM
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19. G. Gordon Liddy talking about honor...
is like Hannibal Lecter talking about cooking.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:43 AM
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21. What is wrong
with these so-called journalists who listen to someone like Liddy talk of "honor" and fail to hold up their hands to stop him and demand, "How can you speak of another man's honor in relation to your own criminal convictions? Wasn't it Felt's "honor" that brought you to your knees, and according to the American justice system rightfull so? You have no credibility here except to report on your prison time, perhaps."
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:13 PM
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30. No, no, no, Clarice....
The good Doctor actually knows quite a lot about cooking. Liddy, on the other hand, is expert only in his personal experience of being (1) a witless goon; and (2) a convicted felon.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:03 AM
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6. I saw Colson last night and said something like----
"What he (felt) did was demeaning because the president trusted him" Oh really Chuck, if you didnt go to jail would you be so bitter?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:30 AM
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16. Colson's jail-house Kristian conversion didn't do him any good.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:26 PM
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36. You got that right.
I read his book years ago and thought he was using his newfound religion as a cover for his crimes. Like, I'm with Jesus now so all I did in the past is forgotten and forgiving.

No, it isn't.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:45 AM
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22. Trust?
You can't handle trust! And neither could Nixon.

When will our TV "journalists" stop entering the world of Bush's fake reality as if it really exists?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:03 AM
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7. And there was not an ounce of self interest driving their indignation.
:sarcasm:
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:04 AM
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8. Since when did it become "unethical"
for a law enforcement officer to bring a criminal to light? This hoopla is meant to discourage any whistleblowers in the current adminsitration.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:05 AM
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9. So now its a 'betrayal' to report criminal activity of someone in
power?

They have no issues with betrayal of the public trust, but they have some mafiosa code of silence for their henchmen?

Makes sense for these dweebs, I guess.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:06 AM
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10. "Professional Ethics"
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:30 AM by dbonds
Did they ever stop to think his ethics probably didn't include all the dirty stuff they were doing. Or was it considerred a 'given' that if you are in that position you are okay with dirty tricks. No matter how you look at it, that group was the one betraying our country and he step out of it and said no. Sounds like a hero to me. He probably did this at the threat of bodily harm.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:28 AM
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15. Pot calling the kettle black? Nah - calling a clean kettle black
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 AM by Seabiscuit
Friggin' hypocritical criminal bastids
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:11 AM
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11. Oh sure that would work
I don't believe an FBI agent, no matter how high up, could directly bring a charge to a grand jury. I may be wrong but I believe he would have had to clear with the head of the FBI who then would have had to submit it to the Justice Department since it involved government personel. Sure that would work, what are the chances that the Nixon justice department would blow the lid off of the Watergate mess. More than likely Felt would have been fired and told to keep his mouth shut.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:33 AM
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20. The head of the FBI, L. Patrick Gray, was a Nixon insider. And the head
of the Justice Department, Attorney General John Mitchell was a Nixon co-conspirator. Felt knew if he reported all that stuff through the usual channels the story would be buried by those CREEPS. He had no ethical choice BUT to work with Woodward, for the most part merely confirming information Woodward and Bernstein already obtained from other sources.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:12 AM
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12. I saw a clip of Charles Colson last night
For those of you who don't remember or were too young, Colson was the hatchet man for the Nixon administration. It was said of him that he would run over his own grandmother in furtherance of causes he believed in. After serving a stretch in prison, he was "born again" and now runs a very profitable prison ministry to inmates, and has written books about his prison experience and his ministry.

In the clip last night, and I don't know when it was shot (ABCNews), had Colson ruminating on how Deep Throat was not a man of honor, driven by an "ends justifies the means" philosophy. Colson ruefully admitted that he had some acquaintance with that sort of thing, and how it hadn't worked out so well for him.

To me, it was baffling: Colson was apparently trying to conjure up some sort of parallel between his own criminal actions and the Felt's actions in trying to stop Colson and his criminal gang. Yes, Felt was supposed to be loyal to the government and the administration, but when he saw criminal wrongdoing, he betrayed that loyalty. I don't think anyone owes loyalty to a criminal enterprise or an enterprise that becomes criminal.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:53 AM
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24. Colson was very disingenuous
He said that Felt should have went into Nixon's office and confronted him and Nixon would have stopped. Give me a break. Felt knew that Nixon would stop at almost NOTHING in his lust for power. He would have been an absolute fool to trust Nixon like that. I think it was in the VF article that it was revealed that Felt was worried about the lives of Woodward, Bernstein and himself being in danger from Nixon and his sleazy henchmen.

Mark Felt did the right thing. I think Colson or Gergen or somebody said that Felt was working for the President or getting paid by the President or something to that affect. Wrong. He was getting paid by the people and he did the right thing. It was an extreme circumstance that called for an unorthodox tactic.
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ridgerunner Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:02 PM
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33. My thoughts exactly
I started laughing when Colson said Felt should have went straight to Nixon. Felt was smarter than that, he would have had an "accident", no doubt about it.

The one great thing about this story breaking is the simple fact that hopefully history will repeat itself and our generation will have a Felt come forward.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:23 AM
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13. Yep. John Mitchell sure would've been on top of things. Right.
What they ignore is the FACT that evidence of Executive Branch corruption was available to Mark Felt purely because it was already being covered up. If there was an ounce of integrity in the Nixon Administration's Justice Department, the evidence would've already led to prosecutions.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:35 PM
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32. Too bad Martha Mitchell isn't alive
She'd be the best interview.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:26 AM
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14. They look fucking ridiculous. And completely corrupt. Keep it up boys.
So far we have Buchanan, Colson and Liddy leading the fruitcake felon parade.

Saw Bill O'Reilly say on "The View" that he is "investigating Felt's motives" or that of his family in bringing this to light now. Talking out of both sides of his mouth as usual, he did say that the Nixon Admin was wrong, they should have been stopped in their abuse of power and the only way to do that was going to the press. But, anyway, Bill is on the case re: the current day motives of this senile, 91 yr old man (or his family). Bill is sure they all want $$$$ (the Repuke's favorite motive ascribed to people of conscience).
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:30 PM
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31. Oh no! Someone cashing in just for the money!
Sez Bill O'Reilly, serial purveyor of stale, recycled crap that wasn't any good the first time around. Dudgeon alert on high for the Sanctimonious One.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 AM
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18. Pat Buchanon was an ass
last night degrading Felt.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:46 AM
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23. The monkeys
are running the zoo.
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:56 AM
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25. Countdown's Keith wasn't any better last night...
he allowed that asshole Buchanan, a Nixon apologist (among other things) to attack Mark Felt (a true American hero). Keith never offered a word of rebuttal...really pissed me off so I emailed him with this suggestion: "...take your head out of Pat Buchanan's ass...".
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:03 PM
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27. Is Pat Buchanon an MSNBC colleague?
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:09 PM
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29. Yep!
Even Brokaw (a former colleague) said that he couldn't believe the crap coming out of Buchanan and Colson.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:56 AM
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26. It is precisely the actions of these fascists...
... that speak now as if though they'd been "wronged", that was the reason that "Deep Throat" Mark Felt did what he did the way he did then. If we didn't have these fascists around, then he might have taken the more official route, or not had to do so at all...

Just look at what's been happening to the "Deep Throats" of today...

Sibel Edmonds
Russ Tice
Colleeen Rowley
Karen Kwiatkowski
Valerie Plame
Melinda Morton
Jane Akre and the news team that tried to expose Monsanto


And now we supposedly have protections for whistleblowers that he didn't have then that should have been protecting these people from retribution, etc.

Note how they've not been that effective in getting their message out through "official" channels? We may need someone working outside of the box now to bring this criminal administration down now, as powerful as it is.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:08 PM
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28. Well naturally the Crooks and Con-men will be angry
Felt helped send them where the belonged...prison.

I'm sure John Gotti was pretty angry with Sammy the Bull.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:06 PM
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34. The media is trying to spin whistleblowers as traitors to protect Bush
Keep watching - that's the plan!
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