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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:14 PM
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Canada unhappy with U.S. passenger list proposal
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050601/wl_canada_nm/canada_security_canada_usa_col

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada is "very worried" by a U.S. proposal that its airlines provide passenger lists for planes flying through American airspace rather than actually landing in the United States, Transport Minister Jean Lapierre said on Wednesday.


Lapierre said the proposal could have "a major effect" on Canadian sovereignty since flights between Canadian cities are often routed over U.S. territory to save fuel.

Of the 160,000 Canadian flights that enter U.S. airspace every year, around 120,000 are traveling domestically.

After the Sept. 11 suicide attacks, U.S. authorities drew up a watch list -- or no-fly list -- of suspected terrorists who were barred from boarding a flight to the United States.

more...

WHOAH!!!

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:21 PM
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1. Oh I wouldn't say 'unhappy'
or even 'very worried' are the right words.

There has been some mention of the USSA..United States of Soviet America though.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:37 PM
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2. NO. Hell NO. NO. NO. NO.
NO.

Don't do it, Canada.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:41 PM
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3. But, evil terrorists could parchute out of the plane... n/t
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:58 AM
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8. doh?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:26 AM
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4. It essentially means that the US would control
Canadian flights - as if there was someone they(the US) deemed a threat, they could ground the flight even if it did not land in the US.

It is an infringement of our independance IMHO.

When the US bucks up and admits that they did house nuclear weapons/labs in Canada, even though they were forbidden to do so, then perhaps we can talk about commercial flights over US airspace.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:39 AM
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5. Canada should either tell the US to stuff it and continue to fly...
...through US airspace, or bite the bullet economically and stop flying through US airspace.

Somebody needs to draw the line in the sand and tell the NeoCon Junta that enough is enough.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:48 AM
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6. This is such crap!
Martin better give an unequivocal NO on this. At this point, I, again, am thankful for having a minority government in power:

"The left-leaning New Democratic Party, which is keeping the minority Liberal government in power, said the passenger list proposal was unacceptable.

"This is certainly a step toward the kind of deeper integration between our two countries that I think a lot of Canadians are concerned about," said party leader Jack Layton."

If the bush cabal continues to push this, Canadian air carriers will just have to reroute to ensure we do NOT enter US airspace or they will lose many customers, imo. I, for one, will not fly with a carrier that complies with this if this goes through.


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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:56 AM
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7. Didn't I read a while ago where a flight from Europe to Mexico was...
diverted from US airspace even tho the flight wasn't landiing because of a name on a 'list'?

I gather they believe once the plane is in US airspace, a hijacker might take control and crash it into a building.

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