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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 05:44 PM
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Sunni group calls for end to Iraq attacks-"Operation Lightning" fails
Edited on Fri Jun-03-05 05:47 PM by KennedyGuy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050603/D8AGCGP00.html
The problem is...the attack they are referring to is the so called operation lightning which they feel is singling out Sunni's. Way to go Chimpy. Civil war here we come.
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"Sunni clerics in Baghdad took advantage of Friday prayer services to call for an end to Operation Lightning, which many Sunnis say target members of their own religious minority. Sunni Arabs are thought to make up the overwhelming majority of the insurgency.

"I appeal to every official here in Iraq to stop humiliating people and (end) the raiding campaign," Sheik Mahmoud al-Sumaidie said in the Um al-Qura Mosque, which also serves as the headquarters of the influential Association of Muslim Scholars".

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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:20 PM
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1. Can we do anything more to incite civil war? Perhaps if we just sided
directly with the shiites and got away from any pretense of impartiality we could incite a real civil war and then invade Iran.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:46 PM
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2.  Civil war, is that the plan? My question from these articles
American Plan To Divide Iraq, Say Websites
A think tank that acts as a consultant to the White House has proposed a plan to end the war in Iraq by dividing the country into six fully autonomous territories, several Iranian websites have claimed. The reports including, one by the Baztab site, did not, reveal any specific details about the alleged plan by the American Foreign Policy Council, (AFPC) or how the information was obtained.

According to Baztab, the American Foreign Policy Council (AFPC) believes that the government of the Shiite leader, Ibrahim Jaafari, does not have the capacity to control the country or include the Sunnis within the political process, and to convince them to lay down their weapons. The Iranian website said the plan was developed by David Philip, a former White House advisor. The plan also calls for three southern regions - of the proposed six - to be palced under Shiite control, for two of the northern regions to be controlled by Kurdish forces and one region to be assigned to the Sunnis.

Under the plan, the capital Baghdad would become the seat of a federal government and would not be incoporated into any of the six states. The central government would control foreign politics and the coordination of the armed forces. All other responsibilities, including law and order and the management of economic resoruces, would be governed individually by the six regions within their territorial boundaries.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9005.htm

As Mike Ruppert writes in From The Wilderness:
"As we have so clearly said in FTW and in 'Crossing the Rubicon,' the intent of the neocons has always been to create a civil war in Iraq. Why? With the country eventually carved up like Yugoslavia into much smaller regions the demands on the US military will be greatly decreased. After all, the only thing we really want to protect is the oil which runs in a thin sliver of land from Basra in the south to Kurdish-controlled areas around Mosul in the north. As far as Dick Cheney is concerned, the rest of the "brown" people can kill themselves. We are after all overpopulated, aren't we? The fact is that the civil war is already underway. The dramatic increase in bombings and attacks reflects not just attacks on the US military, but Muslim on Muslim violence." This "let it happen" civil war, long forecasted by observers such as Scott Ritter, is simply part of the plan.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:53 PM
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3. It is a shame that..
the various factions in Iraq don't see the strategy of the Bush Regime. If the Iraqis could set aside their differences and unite against the Occupiers and take control of their own country they would be better off.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:30 AM
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9. The The Wilderness has Dick Cheney summed to a tee.
Carved the country up into small counties is the objective.

Why didn't the people of this country want to listen to Scott Ritter?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:57 PM
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4. Backlash
This story is going to be carried broadly

Sunni leaders say offensive unfairly targets their neighborhoods
By Nancy A. Youssef
Knight Ridder Newspapers

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A campaign against insurgents by Iraqi forces has sparked a backlash from some of the country's Sunni Muslim leaders and could complicate efforts to enlist more Sunnis in running Iraq's new government, drafting a democratic constitution and battling the insurgency.
...
Government officials acknowledge that the police and security forces don't have the intelligence they need to conduct precise sweeps in Sunni neighborhoods. When they do dragnets, innocent residents get caught up, discouraging Sunnis from embracing the new government and driving some of them toward the insurgency.

"The government should concentrate on building national trust between the people and the security forces in order to achieve cooperation. But the security forces are sabotaging this relationship through their random raids," said Hazim Ali, a political science professor at Baghdad University. "If they use excessive force, it will lead to excessive violence. So far, it has not solved any problems."

The sweep of Baghdad, which U.S. Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called "an important signpost" on the way to assessing what the newly trained Iraqi forces can do, hasn't gone according to the plan the Iraqi government announced more than a week ago.

Knight Ridder correspondents found all 23 routes leading out of the city were never closed and new checkpoints were manned sporadically and could be avoided. It's unclear whether all of the 40,000 police and military forces the government planned to use took part. And the only neighborhoods that encountered a heavy police presence were Sunni-dominated.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11809794.htm

KR pieces get carried in lots of locals.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:09 AM
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5. Kick!
:kick:
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:49 AM
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6. Appalling
This administration has surpassed even my lowest expectations of it. Can these fools do ONE thing without casting aspersions, trampling someone's liberties, dividing a nation, or ending up with casualties?


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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:56 AM
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7. short answer
No.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:14 AM
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8. LOL :-)
In spite of all the horrific news I'm reading this early morning, you guys keep getting me to laugh. Thanks, sincerely.

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