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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:57 PM
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Latin American liberals condemn U.S. on suppressing leftist movements
http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/international/index.ssf?/base/international-5/1117923738113711.xml&storylist=international

HAVANA (AP) — Hundreds of intellectuals and politicians from Latin America's left gathered for an anti-terror conference in Cuba, but they never talked about al-Qaida, focusing instead on their own shared nemesis — the U.S. government.

For decades, participants said, the United States was behind efforts to suppress leftist movements in Latin America, from the backing of the region's violent, right-wing military dictatorships in the 1970s and 1980s to current meddling in the politics of liberal-led countries.

The policy, they said, has emerged again with the current handling of a Cuban militant wanted in Venezuela for an airliner bombing — the issue that spawned the conference, originally a three-day event that host Cuban President Fidel Castro extended to run a fourth day Sunday. The event was aimed at drumming up international support for the extradition of the militant, Luis Posada Carriles.

"In reality, we are fighting for the independence of the hemisphere, for the end of the dominance over our hemisphere," Castro told the audience...

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:01 PM
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1. They should try being left
and living in the US!

As a DUer writes..the Eagle can't soar without a left wing!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:34 PM
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3. To date, the American left has not suffered the bloody predations ..
.. which Kissinger, Negroponte, and their ilk have visited upon Latin America ... We generally don't wake up to find that our friends have been kidnapped at midnight and their bodies found a few weeks later in the city dump with their eyes gouged out ...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:53 PM
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5. Right..good points.
There're just a few small plane accidents here and there and the occasional suicide.

Not nearly as horrific and tragic as what the South American countries have gone through.

I hope Chavez can change all that murderous rage.
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PsyOpsRunsOurCountry Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:37 PM
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6. Um... KKK/COINTELPRO. Leftists murdered, harassed, impoverished, etc.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:40 PM by PsyOpsRunsOurCountry
Political assassinations and imprisonment still goes on in the US, it's just covered up better than it used to be to keep the threshold of outrage from being reached. Of course, the School of the Americas still trains the police-state goons for this hemisphere.

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/rise_of_american_fascism.htm
Terrorism against the poor and the left has been part of America unabated over the last one hundred years.

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm
The guy claiming to be 'Deep Throat,' the former #2 at the FBI was convicted of these crimes against US citizens carried out under Nixon and J. Edger Hoover who also used the Mafia to attack labor organizers.

http://www.musarium.com/withoutsanctuary/main.html
The CIA and FBI have used local goon squads of white supremecists and fascists like the many Nazis and Nazi sympathizers brought here after WWII to lynch, assault, terrorize African Americans and labor organizers and Catholics and Jews and Socialists and anyone who resists the rich in the US.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:03 PM
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7. Yes. I agree that this happens. I also say that it pales in comparison ..
.. to (say) the horrors we visited upon Guatemala and El Salvador.

I do not regard this as cause for complacency: I have long believed ugly methods used abroad return home. Nor do I wish to downplay the vicious history of attacks against domestic nonwhites, especially, and the role such political violence has played in maintaining the economic advantages of our ruling elite, The Ownership Society. (Ward Churchill, BTW, is a great source on COINTELPRO, and it is certainly "an interesting coincidence" that the wingnuts began to scream about an Eichmann crack in an old Churchill essay, just when the CIA was admitting Eichmann's cronies had been on The Company's payroll.)

But how can we possibly work in effective solidarity with our brothers and sisters in the less-developed world if we are not as realistic as possible? In my memory, helicopter gunships have not overflown little rural towns in the USA, dropping bombs and raking small houses with machinegun fire in reprisal for the towns' alleged support of "leftists." Here's something else I've never seen in my neighborhood:


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PsyOpsRunsOurCountry Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:30 PM
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11. Yup. We're on the same page. Americans are sheltered from violence mostly.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 10:31 PM by PsyOpsRunsOurCountry
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1523461&mesg_id=1523694&page=

See my lengthy post #11 on the Churchill-Cointelpro-Nazi-Deep Throat connections.

I've read accounts of the LA riots that claimed much of the destruction was government agent provocateur action to justify further militarizing the police and completely eliminating Posse Comitatus.

Since Operation Northwoods plans for false-flag terrorism in the US by the government against its own people to justify invading Cuba, we've had WTC 1993 and Oklahoma City 1995 bombings by FBI/CIA agent provocateurs and there's probably more coming. Lots of evidence that 9/11 was exactly that.

But you're right. Most US violence is done to people out of sight so Americans aren't too disturbed to watch football. And death squads eliminating entire US towns would be noticed...unless it was the Superbowl or playoffs.
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:47 PM
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8. It's Been Much Easier Here Compared To Latin America
Don't recall very many many death squads, military junta's, state of seige declarations, suspension of constitutional rights and concentration camps here.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:11 PM
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10. I know...see post
#5, please.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:13 PM
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2. The American Left feels their pain.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:44 PM
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4. May the independent and democratic left in Latin America grow and prosper!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:10 PM
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9. Hope more Americans come to consciousness and realize we've been duped
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 10:11 PM by Judi Lynn
through the very information fed to us since childhood. We've most clearly been sidetracked so easily from the truth about what our right-wing Presidents have been doing to this hemisphere.

Now some of us are finding out for the first time what was going on THIRTY YEARS AGO: far too late, but better than living on in the comfortable fog of utter delusion.

From the article, a great point a DU'er also made here on an earlier thread:
"What is the reason they're protecting this terrorist?" asked Waldo Leyva, a Cuban writer. "This guy is the bin Laden of Latin America!"



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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:10 PM
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12. Latin American liberals? Liberals in Latin America are right wing...
As they are in most of the rest of the world... Maybe they are talking about Latin American left wingers, or socialists, or socialdemocrats... but not liberals!
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:17 PM
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13. it seems like a very oddly-written headline-"Liberals condemn U.S. on
leftist movements".What the hell does that mean?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:00 AM
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14. Latin American Liberals Condemn U.S. Involvement in Suppressing Leftist Mo
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB0MYHPK9E.html

Latin American Liberals Condemn U.S. Involvement in Suppressing Leftist Movements

HAVANA (AP) - Hundreds of intellectuals and politicians from Latin America's left gathered for an anti-terror conference in Cuba, but they never talked about al-Qaida, focusing instead on their own shared nemesis - the U.S. government.


For decades, participants said, the United States was behind efforts to suppress leftist movements in Latin America, from the backing of the region's violent, right-wing military dictatorships in the 1970s and 1980s to current meddling in the politics of liberal-led countries.

The policy, they said, has emerged again with the current handling of a Cuban militant wanted in Venezuela for an airliner bombing - the issue that spawned the conference, originally a three-day event that host Cuban President Fidel Castro extended to run a fourth day Sunday. The event was aimed at drumming up international support for the extradition of the militant, Luis Posada Carriles.

"In reality, we are fighting for the independence of the hemisphere, for the end of the dominance over our hemisphere," Castro told the audience.

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